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kkruel55 12-21-2010 07:06 AM

Z-Power GT Wing
 
Ok the time has come to talk of wings... specifically this wing
370ZTUNE.com

(Seen here on 370ztune.com)

I really like the look of it, but with this low mount will it still be effective at the track? I am (attempting to) build my z into a quasi track car, with brakes/coilovers to be my next mod, and I need a GT wing for more downforce. Anyone know how this one compares to the voltex wing?

Mike 12-21-2010 07:40 AM

The APR wing would be cheaper and it is effective.

I run the GTC300 wing, and it puts 1058 lbs of downforce at 100mph. Its maybe actually just a little too much wing, as it has made me lose about 5mph top end on the long straight at Road Atlanta. I can however, keep the gas fully on in the esses now, so I'm really happy with it.

I got a great deal from Scott at Fontana Nissan

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1014/logotrg.jpg

Mike 12-21-2010 07:41 AM

plus, at the higher level of this wing, it doesn't obstruct rear view, as it sits just above the top of the window.

bullitt5897 12-21-2010 08:35 AM

I got the GTC 500 and it puts down over 1800 ft-lbs of down force at 180mph!!!

bullitt5897 12-21-2010 08:36 AM

The APR Wings are great! the construction is top notch and they perform extremely well!

kkruel55 12-21-2010 09:39 AM

5mph seems like a lot to lose in the straights... plus that thing is huge!! Either of you guys know what the z power is good for downforce wise? Also where do you get those numbers/how do you have them set up?

SPOHN 12-21-2010 10:02 AM

I'm also looking at the GT wing also. I like the fact it's not so aggressive. I will be tracking my car two to three times a year. So between that and daily driving(somewhat) it should work for me.

Does the APR come in smaller heights? Haven't look them up in awhile. If I can save a buck and end up with an efficient product I'm game.

worldfamousz 12-21-2010 11:30 AM

We carry Ings and APR, both wings will be great additions. The Ings is functional but also more about style than the APR which is all about function. I used to have the APR GT500 and customized it for my widebody 350Z showcar.

both of these will be great additions, in the end it really comes down to which style you prefer as one wing will probably look better with some kits or setups than the other, and vice-a-versa.

pm me with any questions!

Mike 12-21-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkruel55 (Post 860337)
5mph seems like a lot to lose in the straights... plus that thing is huge!! Either of you guys know what the z power is good for downforce wise? Also where do you get those numbers/how do you have them set up?

numbers from their website wind tunnel test results. I have 0 aoa setting. The GTC 200 might be a little better choice if you don't want to lose top end.

Stealth_Z 12-21-2010 01:54 PM

What about a wing like this?? Not sure if this is made by INGS or someone else...

http://www.more-japan.com/files/d_5292.jpg

daisuke149 12-21-2010 02:00 PM

i would assume that is made my INgs as it says INGS on the side of the wing

Vegitto-kun 12-21-2010 03:31 PM

lol I would never put such a HUEG wing on my car.


it just looks stupid no offense to people who put these on their cars.

SPOHN 12-21-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 860856)
lol I would never put such a HUEG wing on my car.


it just looks stupid no offense to people who put these on their cars.

These wings do serve a big purpose as discribed above. They give big amount of downforce that helps on with stability in straight aways and turns at high and low speeds.

Try not to look at it as a stylish point of view but a served pupose that helps a car perform. Really no different from tires, suspension, and brake kits even though they look great on a car. These wings to me sort out the real racer at heart. Unless it's on a honda civic(lol).

Trips 12-21-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 861092)
These wings do serve a big purpose as discribed above. They give big amount of downforce that helps on with stability in straight aways and turns at high and low speeds.

Try not to look at it as a stylish point of view but a served pupose that helps a car perform. Really no different from tires, suspension, and brake kits even though they look great on a car. These wings to me sort out the real racer at heart. Unless it's on a honda civic(lol).

Thanks for the reply! :tiphat:

Vegitto-kun 12-21-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 861092)
These wings do serve a big purpose as discribed above. They give big amount of downforce that helps on with stability in straight aways and turns at high and low speeds.

Try not to look at it as a stylish point of view but a served pupose that helps a car perform. Really no different from tires, suspension, and brake kits even though they look great on a car. These wings to me sort out the real racer at heart. Unless it's on a honda civic(lol).

yeah at 100+mph

sorry but those things are just stupid to have on a DD that goes to the track once in a while.

and while you guys are like "awesome bigass wings on a Z" but then you go "lol wtf bigass wing on a civic"

corner3garage 12-21-2010 06:10 PM

For A street car I would just use something that is like the APR wings when you are at the track and go wingless on the street. Personally I think that is a better Idea. When one of our customers had an APR wing on their car they said they lost about 2-3mpg haha. DOWNFORCE!

SPOHN 12-21-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 861106)
yeah at 100+mph

sorry but those things are just stupid to have on a DD that goes to the track once in a while.

and while you guys are like "awesome bigass wings on a Z" but then you go "lol wtf bigass wing on a civic"

I think you miss the point. I'm just trying to somewhat discribe the soul purpose. Most go to the track often. So not sure how you see it stupid even if was once in awhile. Depends on what you want to get out of the car while your there. No different to have 500hp for a mostly DD car that goes to the track once in awhile. It's all about the seriousness you want in your ride.

And for the "lol wtf bigass wing on a civic" there is no point, so it is worth laughing at. It's a no hp, fwd, and not even a fraction of a track car to have something of this calibra.

I guess you could take it off for dd. But why? It makes a statment about what your about.

theDreamer 12-21-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 861106)
yeah at 100+mph

sorry but those things are just stupid to have on a DD that goes to the track once in a while.

and while you guys are like "awesome bigass wings on a Z" but then you go "lol wtf bigass wing on a civic"

You might want to do some more research.
Civic wings are park benches that add no real purpose, these wings are designed to create downforce and are proven.

phelan 12-21-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corner3garage (Post 861109)
For A street car I would just use something that is like the APR wings when you are at the track and go wingless on the street. Personally I think that is a better Idea. When one of our customers had an APR wing on their car they said they lost about 2-3mpg haha. DOWNFORCE!

Hell I've lost 1-2 mpg with my humongous amuse wing already. Stoopid wing :rofl2:

I wonder how much downforce I'm getting off of that thing??

Vegitto-kun 12-21-2010 06:24 PM

You have the amuse kit?

want so much.

SPOHN 12-21-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 861148)
You have the amuse kit?

want so much.

Do you like the Amuse wing?

Vegitto-kun 12-21-2010 06:30 PM

I am not a big fan of it.

If I had to pick a wing from what I have seen up to now I would actually pick the one the OP posted, its not too big and it seems to flow pretty nicely with the car

Trips 12-21-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 861148)
You have the amuse kit?

want so much.

I would ask that you hold you're negative comments to threads that are asking for opinions.
You have been pretty active recently and thats fine but if you don't have nothing nice to say move on to another thread. :tiphat:

Mike 12-21-2010 06:34 PM

Over half of my miles are on the track, so its worth it for me. It does cost me mileage. I don't drive enough on the street to really know how much, but I got 22 on the way up to Road America in October.

I do know that when trailering my car, I have lost 2mpg in the tow vehicle. Future long trips will have me unbolt the wing and put it in the car next season.

Mike 12-21-2010 06:36 PM

I have to say, the worst thing about it is cruising on the highway.

Just going along, minding my own business, keeping right except to pass, and a car comes up quick, then parks on my back bumper gawking and taking cell phone pics, all the while me coming up on slower traffic and wanting to get over. that is very frustrating.

Vegitto-kun 12-21-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 861158)
I would ask that you hold you're negative comments to threads that are asking for opinions.
You have been pretty active recently and thats fine but if you don't have nothing nice to say move on to another thread. :tiphat:

yes why not lets have everybody talk about how everything is perfect and fine.

such a interesting forum where everybody thinks every single thing is perfect. :tiphat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 861164)
Over half of my miles are on the track, so its worth it for me. It does cost me mileage. I don't drive enough on the street to really know how much, but I got 22 on the way up to Road America in October.

I do know that when trailering my car, I have lost 2mpg in the tow vehicle. Future long trips will have me unbolt the wing and put it in the car next season.

In your case I don't mind it you are on the track alot. but I personally think its unneeded when you go to a track once a month or two.

but then again, most can be unbolted like you said.


it just irritates me when im in traffic and I see a subaru or whatever with a big *** aftermarket wing going 30, I just start thinking, why in godsname.

I am more a fan of the more subtle wing.

PapoZalsa 12-21-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 861185)
The guys who like the looks of these are the same ones that use to soup up honda civics......

And I agree......THEY LOOK STUPID!

Park Benches unless you really track or race your car.

theDreamer 12-21-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 861185)
The guys who like the looks of these are the same ones that use to soup up honda civics......

And I agree......THEY LOOK STUPID!

:facepalm:

theDreamer 12-21-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 861243)
Highly recommended.....with these wings you can hang out with the honda ricer guys.........sign me up!

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Sibze 12-21-2010 10:05 PM

Lol I don't think many people in this thread understand the point that they are functional... No one here is trying to "rice" there car...

Mike, Bullitt and Anthony. Thanks for your inputs :tup:

daisuke149 12-21-2010 10:19 PM

if the wing that the OP posted wasnt so expensive i would like that one...

kndacomplx 12-21-2010 10:56 PM

There was a time when splitters, wings, aero, and carbon fiber parts were only seen on real race cars. As the race scene spilled over onto the streets and gave rise to tuners these parts were translated into a style. A style based on the mimicking "race cars" and their parts which served a functional purpose not a style. In this translation this function was mostly lost since they only served to mimic and give the impression of race car. So splitters became lips. Canards became triangles screwed into the side of front bumpers, rear diffusers became bumpers that actually act like parachutes. Wings were put on riced out cars the wrong way creating lift, vents that led to nowhere. etc. When you actually care about cutting seconds off your lap time you actually start sacrificing look for function and honestly stop caring about what the other part of the car scene thinks.

kkruel55 12-21-2010 10:58 PM

Lol guys guys the point of this thread was not to bash civic drivers but to help determine if my z, now as my track toy, would really benefit from the ings+1. I am planning on starting with instruction then move to light track duty with it... I already know I'm not going pro lol. Just trying to figure out if it is worth it for the downforce.

kndacomplx 12-21-2010 11:05 PM

I say your best bet is to take your car out to the track. As your skill grows and you begin to out drive your car then add what you need. I say put the money on suspension and brakes. If you've done that a good bucket seat to use when you are on the track.

kkruel55 12-22-2010 12:10 AM

Ya brakes and suspension are next I am just already seeing a lack of downforce at 100 mph+. Don't tell the Houston cops!

Junior370z 12-22-2010 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 860121)

This wing is SICK! Reminds me of the Viper wing! Love it!:tup:

Kirkster 12-22-2010 07:28 PM

I am not sure how much additional downforce this wing makes but I want one...

Its even Nissan compatiable

http://www.limpidity.org/images/Zpics/cars-26.jpg

theDreamer 12-22-2010 07:30 PM

Does it come with the extra option shown or is that just a GT-R option? :p

theDreamer 12-22-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 863005)
It reduces your take off runway distance by 1000 feet.........thats a secret only the honda guys knew.....till now.

Do you have anything helpful to add to this thread?
A good quality discussion is happening about something people are interested in and you are just trolling it. :gtfo2:

Trips 12-22-2010 08:26 PM

I find this thread informative, and would like to ask all who have nothing to add positive to not comment. This is the tech section so left the B.S. in the general discussion section. Thank You.


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