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Kyle@STILLEN 03-18-2010 06:37 PM

Hey Guys,

The fascia is taking a little longer than expected for a couple reasons.

#1) I've been a giant pain in the rear about the instructions. I want to make sure that they really spell everything out clearly on how to do the blending steps.

#2) We wanted to change one of the mounting points. We weren't 100% happy with it so we wanted to make a couple of the changes. We should be able to knock out some production pieces tomorrow though.

Red370 03-18-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 453266)
Hey Guys,

The fascia is taking a little longer than expected for a couple reasons.

#1) I've been a giant pain in the rear about the instructions. I want to make sure that they really spell everything out clearly on how to do the blending steps.

#2) We wanted to change one of the mounting points. We weren't 100% happy with it so we wanted to make a couple of the changes. We should be able to knock out some production pieces tomorrow though.

awesome, thanks kyle.

Mike@Blackline 03-18-2010 07:13 PM

better well done and delayed than rushed and shitty

LateralG'z 03-18-2010 08:15 PM

I like it a lot nice post

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 437085)
I like it this way :icon18:


PapoZalsa 03-18-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by battlewagon (Post 453287)
better well done and delayed than rushed and shitty

:iagree:

ZKindaGuy 03-19-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 340953)
In comparison to the factory nose this is actually anch or so longer. Also we did kick around the idea of smaller ducts (which are what's behind the cardboard) and they just looked too wimpy. Also the primary goal is increasing the amount of air through the car and as someone mentioned those large openings on the sides are perfect for additional coolers :).

So instead of small wimpy it now looks excessively large and obstrusive?

Instead of slapping something onto the cowling why don't you try just try a series of cuts of the cowling itself with some added molded edge-lines entending inward from the cut openings to the cowling backside to give it some smoothness and make it look like the cowling was injected that way to begin with? When you want to revise the design of something you don't always have to add something....instead you can actually go more simple and take something away like I suggest and still get the same functionality but with a much more natural and streamlined look.....not something that looks like it was just slapped on which destroys the entire natural curved line of the cowling. :rolleyes:

I have to say that looking at many of the designs of the ground effects from the majority of the 3rd-party manufacturers it is clear and evident that the 3rd-party design engineers don't know how to leverage the natural design of the car itself and instead always approach the design by just slinging stuff onto the car that completely disturbs the natural design lines the car was intended to have....which leads to the viewer's eye to just focus on the obstrusive slung-on bling but never visualizing the car as an entire whole....

I suggest that you stop this particular revision and go back to rethinking it instead of pushing out something which will have less of an appeal than what I am suggesting...

Kyle@STILLEN 03-19-2010 12:42 PM

Judging by how many phone calls and emails we get on a daily basis from people who can't wait to purchase this fascia...I would say that this fascia has quite a lot of appeal.

But thank you for your input. Once the complete kit is finished perhaps your opinion will change.

zinistr 03-19-2010 12:55 PM

Kyle - nice design and I'm sure it'll be a quality piece. Looking forward to seeing a few 370's with this fascia on them. :driving:

jmlenz 03-19-2010 07:32 PM

Im guessing the option of getting the bumper as one peice (dont mind paying shipping premium) is out of the question Kyle?

cab83_750 03-20-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 454611)
Judging by how many phone calls and emails we get on a daily basis from people who can't wait to purchase this fascia...I would say that this fascia has quite a lot of appeal.

But thank you for your input. Once the complete kit is finished perhaps your opinion will change.

Obviously we can't please everyone. :)

Nice product btw!

RCZ 03-21-2010 10:23 AM

Agreed ZKindaGuy... You do realize you are arguing aesthetics, right? Do you think for some reason doing car shows gives you some sort of authority on the subject?

Everyone is different, we all have different taste. You like the more subtle stuff, others like other stuff.

You're having a hissy fit because it doesn't look like what you want...

What are you doing lol...are you friends with XZIBIT?!? I hear he does car shows too.

ZForce 03-21-2010 11:51 AM

Just saw this thread (yeh I have been under a rock the last month) and the related fang thread. I was liking this the more I read as the developement was coming along and then the final pics. I like a lot. Next on my wish list as I am still paying off the last goodies I purchased. Great job Kyle&Josh! In for Mike & Raul' pic/video and review.

Red370 03-21-2010 12:28 PM

Speaking of this, have any of you seen this months ad in Modified and IT? Stillen FTW!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...t6/p_01592.jpg

Caravanshaka 03-21-2010 01:12 PM

Thx for the clean-up AK :tup:

Trips 03-21-2010 01:12 PM

I see a good cleaning with some ajax to remove the unwanted Stains on the wall

RCZ 03-21-2010 01:13 PM

OK its been cleaned up:

Back to the Fascia please!

antennahead 03-21-2010 01:13 PM

AK, you removed my IBTL post :tup: :tiphat: (I understand)

370zproject 03-21-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 457309)
Thx for the clean-up AK :tup:

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 457310)
I see a good cleaning with some ajax to remove the unwanted Stains on the wall

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 457312)
OK its been cleaned up:

Back to the Fascia please!

:tiphat: ty ak

SmoothZ 03-21-2010 01:17 PM

Speaking of which, I like the way the 'finished' product looks on those adverts. I think it's cleaner than OEM, which I like. When it comes to detailing, sometimes less is better IMHO.

Keep up the good work!

AK370Z 03-21-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 454251)
....

Zkindaguy, you've put your input, opinion and two cents in this front fascia thread. Thanks. I'm sure Kyle will look into your suggestion. Now if you need to provide them more info, please feel free to pm them with your ideas. There's no need clutter up this thread.

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 454611)
Judging by how many phone calls and emails we get on a daily basis from people who can't wait to purchase this fascia...I would say that this fascia has quite a lot of appeal.

But thank you for your input. Once the complete kit is finished perhaps your opinion will change.

The kit looks great. We can't wait to see it painted and finalized pictures. Again, I give you guys props putting countless hours and dedication developing this front fascia for us 370Z owners.

370zproject 03-21-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 401978)

only thing i would be worried about is the big gap allowing water to get into the engine bay... kinda a newbie at this and my z is my dd ... like the gen 3 intakes do those protect aginst water intake?

Trips 03-21-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 457335)
only thing i would be worried about is the big gap allowing water to get into the engine bay... kinda a newbie at this and my z is my dd ... like the gen 3 intakes do those protect aginst water intake?

water isn't going to be to much of an issues since they sit at the highest level possible

370zproject 03-21-2010 01:40 PM

hmm it happened to my bros rsx.. water got in.. blew his block up

AK370Z 03-21-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 457385)
hmm it happened to my bros rsx.. water got in.. blew his block up

Your brother probably had the cold air intake like AEM or whatever on his RSX. I had my friends RSX hydrolocked too. That's because those cold air intakes filter stays very very low to the ground. I believe it stays in front of the front wheel. I wouldn't worry about Stillen G3 on the 370Z since it sits up waaay high up. Take a look:

http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p...09/filters.jpg

Lets keep this thread on topic.
If you have questions about G3 intakes, take a look at this thread here http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...3-intakes.html . Thanks :tup:

LateralG'z 03-21-2010 05:41 PM

Does this front have holes that guide air to the G3 intakes, that would be really and allow for better air to them? BTW this is a great front end.

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 457335)
only thing i would be worried about is the big gap allowing water to get into the engine bay... kinda a newbie at this and my z is my dd ... like the gen 3 intakes do those protect aginst water intake?


RCZ 03-21-2010 09:11 PM

^ Yup, there is an opening between the bumper beam cover and the top edge of the front of the bumper.

LateralG'z 03-21-2010 11:52 PM

Thank you. :tiphat: +1

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 457981)
^ Yup, there is an opening between the bumper beam cover and the top edge of the front of the bumper.


Red370 03-21-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 458297)
Thank you. :tiphat: +1

just get em, you know you wanna.

LateralG'z 03-21-2010 11:56 PM

When is this available to purchase?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 454611)
Judging by how many phone calls and emails we get on a daily basis from people who can't wait to purchase this fascia...I would say that this fascia has quite a lot of appeal.

But thank you for your input. Once the complete kit is finished perhaps your opinion will change.


370zproject 03-22-2010 06:32 AM

is there a finished product?

htt760 03-22-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 458405)
is there a finished product?

we are still awaiting stillen to finish a few things on mounting and install information before officially shipping out the products. they want to make sure everything is legit.:excited:

Red370 03-22-2010 01:02 PM

man, i think this thing would look good with a carbon fiber overlay on the lip.

Kyle@STILLEN 03-22-2010 01:06 PM

We're finalizing a few things right now. During our testing of the fascia we found that the top mounting surface was a little thin and a little weak. We used the factory fascia for this section and it might have been a bit too thin. So, the craftsmen in the modeling shop worked on that on Friday and again this morning. We should know more this afternoon. I was hoping to have everyone wrapped up and shipped on Friday but as everyone has said, we would all rather wait until everything is perfect before we ship them out.

We're a few pages deep now so I though it would be a good time to recap some of the integrated features of the fascia.

1) Additional cooling- We opened up the main center opening to allow for a lot more air flow.

2) Even more airflow- We plan on offering an additional oil cooler which can be mounted behind the vent on the driver's side. For the guys who purchased the street cooler first, then the motorsport cooler...That street cooler fits perfectly in the side opening so you can now run both. This is what we plan on doing for our car.

3) Still more airflow- We have incorporated a small vent underneath the top section of the fascia. This small vent will help direct air to the Gen. 3's, supercharger intakes, and intercooler.

4) Brake ducts- We will be building some modular brake ducts for people who want to either keep the fang look or for the guy who just wants brake ducting. Either way, these will be 100% functional and work perfectly for both people.

5) Great looks- We wanted to keep this looking good but functionality was definitely the primary focus.

Mike 03-22-2010 04:19 PM

No worries Kyle! Its worth waiting a few more days.

370zproject 03-22-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 458835)
We're finalizing a few things right now. During our testing of the fascia we found that the top mounting surface was a little thin and a little weak. We used the factory fascia for this section and it might have been a bit too thin. So, the craftsmen in the modeling shop worked on that on Friday and again this morning. We should know more this afternoon. I was hoping to have everyone wrapped up and shipped on Friday but as everyone has said, we would all rather wait until everything is perfect before we ship them out.

We're a few pages deep now so I though it would be a good time to recap some of the integrated features of the fascia.

1) Additional cooling- We opened up the main center opening to allow for a lot more air flow.

2) Even more airflow- We plan on offering an additional oil cooler which can be mounted behind the vent on the driver's side. For the guys who purchased the street cooler first, then the motorsport cooler...That street cooler fits perfectly in the side opening so you can now run both. This is what we plan on doing for our car.

3) Still more airflow- We have incorporated a small vent underneath the top section of the fascia. This small vent will help direct air to the Gen. 3's, supercharger intakes, and intercooler.

4) Brake ducts- We will be building some modular brake ducts for people who want to either keep the fang look or for the guy who just wants brake ducting. Either way, these will be 100% functional and work perfectly for both people.

5) Great looks- We wanted to keep this looking good but functionality was definitely the primary focus.

post pics when done :)

LateralG'z 03-22-2010 04:50 PM

How soon, I am dying to know so I can include it in my budget for my upgrades


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 458835)
We're finalizing a few things right now. During our testing of the fascia we found that the top mounting surface was a little thin and a little weak. We used the factory fascia for this section and it might have been a bit too thin. So, the craftsmen in the modeling shop worked on that on Friday and again this morning. We should know more this afternoon. I was hoping to have everyone wrapped up and shipped on Friday but as everyone has said, we would all rather wait until everything is perfect before we ship them out.

We're a few pages deep now so I though it would be a good time to recap some of the integrated features of the fascia.

1) Additional cooling- We opened up the main center opening to allow for a lot more air flow.

2) Even more airflow- We plan on offering an additional oil cooler which can be mounted behind the vent on the driver's side. For the guys who purchased the street cooler first, then the motorsport cooler...That street cooler fits perfectly in the side opening so you can now run both. This is what we plan on doing for our car.

3) Still more airflow- We have incorporated a small vent underneath the top section of the fascia. This small vent will help direct air to the Gen. 3's, supercharger intakes, and intercooler.

4) Brake ducts- We will be building some modular brake ducts for people who want to either keep the fang look or for the guy who just wants brake ducting. Either way, these will be 100% functional and work perfectly for both people.

5) Great looks- We wanted to keep this looking good but functionality was definitely the primary focus.


Kyle@STILLEN 03-22-2010 05:28 PM

I am pretty confident when I say that it will be ready by the end of this week. I will know more tomorrow morning when we run the new part. The mold is curing today after the changes we made and it will be ready to shoot tomorrow.

I will have a more official release soon with all the specifics and details as well as part numbers and prices for the optional upgrade pieces like the compact/hidden windshield washer reservoir, oil cooler upgrade, and more. But, for now, here is the price for the fascia. This fascia will sell for $497.00 and it does qualify for the free freight. Only $9.95 to cover insurance and handling and we pay all of the additional freight!

azn370z 03-22-2010 05:40 PM

How much will the sideskirts cost?

Kyle@STILLEN 03-22-2010 06:16 PM

I don't think we have a price on the skirts yet.

RCZ 03-22-2010 07:17 PM

got an image of the skirts?


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