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chubbs 03-08-2017 02:56 PM

Do I Have Seat Creep?...
 
Don't laugh - no please, don't laugh.

Ever since I've had the car (a few months now) I've regularly had to press the button to move the seat backwards. I'm talking about twice a week. Now I know I'm slow, but this is starting to register in my excuse for a brain. Never experienced this before.

I've thought about - and discounted - various possibe causes, as follows:

1. No, my legs aren't getting longer - probably quite the opposite.

2. No I'm not getting fatter - not at that rate, anyway.

3. No, the car's not shrinking in the rain, not noticeably anyway.

4. No, the pedals aren't getting longer - I've checked.

So, what's going on? Has anyone ever heard of Seat Creep? Am I breaking new ground here? Is Seat Creep even possible? Do I need to start taking measurements to check if the seat IS creeping fowards at night, when everyone's in bed?

Jayhovah 03-08-2017 02:57 PM

Never heard of it... but adjust your seat and find a way to mark the position (as precisely as you can!) with some masking tape or something and see if it actually moves or if the voices are just telling you it moved.

chubbs 03-08-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3624704)
...mark the position (as precisely as you can!) with some masking tape or something...

That's the idea I was looking for! Thanks mate!

Time will tell...

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...arch%209pm.jpg

DOOMMONKEY777 03-08-2017 03:46 PM

The difference lies when you sit with or W/O a coat on.

Jayhovah 03-08-2017 03:48 PM

That seatbelt bracket doesn't move with the seat?

chubbs 03-08-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3624720)
That seatbelt bracket doesn't move with the seat?

Oh bollocks, yes it does! :wtf2:

I owe you a drink next time I'm in America - I've moved the tape to the centre bulkhead.

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3624719)
The difference lies when you sit with or W/O a coat on.

This.

Even thicker vs thinner jackets, sweaters that sort of thing makes a difference.

Jayhovah 03-08-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3624725)
I owe you a drink next time I'm in America

Hope I can take you up on that!

chubbs 03-08-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3624726)
This.

Even thicker vs thinner jackets, sweaters that sort of thing makes a difference.

I know. I've had Z's with electric seats for 12 years and had to make tiny adjustments for clothing all the time - backwards AND forwards. This is different. It only ever goes backwards. By now, in theory, I should be driving from the trunk of the car.

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3624731)
I know. I've had Z's with electric seats for 12 years and had to make tiny adjustments for clothing all the time - backwards AND forwards. This is different. It only ever goes backwards. By now, in theory, I should be driving from the trunk of the car.

You take up wearing platform shoes? :icon17:

Any significant dung buildup on the bottoms of your shoes? :icon14:

I'm assuming you have power seats? Are you perhaps bumping the controls slightly with your leg when getting out?

The clothing was the only tangible thing I could think of, otherwise I'm just throwing stuff out there to maybe spawn further ideas on it.

crazy4oldcars 03-08-2017 04:31 PM

I have the recaro's, and about once a week I have to reset the seatback. Between moving the seat getting in and out, and leaning on it to lever myself out ( I'm old and about 40 pounds overweight, lol), it wiggles out of position.

Kirk B.

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy4oldcars (Post 3624756)
I have the recaro's, and about once a week I have to reset the seatback. Between moving the seat getting in and out, and leaning on it to lever myself out ( I'm old and about 40 pounds overweight, lol), it wiggles out of position.

Kirk B.

You should trade me for my base seats to alleviate yourself of that clearly inconvenient predicament.

chubbs 03-08-2017 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3624736)
You take up wearing platform shoes? :icon17:

Any significant dung buildup on the bottoms of your shoes? :icon14:

I'm assuming you have power seats? Are you perhaps bumping the controls slightly with your leg when getting out?

The clothing was the only tangible thing I could think of, otherwise I'm just throwing stuff out there to maybe spawn further ideas on it.

Yes, I have power seats. I stopped wearing platform shoes in 1975. I'm a very fussy bastard, so I NEVER step in dogshit.

I am in England. Our steering wheel is on the right, so I get in the right hand door. The power buttons are on the left of the seat, so I never make unintentional contact with them.

But thanks for the ideas.

crazy4oldcars 03-08-2017 04:44 PM

Yeah....No.
Now heated touring....?
(Insert deep in thought emoji)
Nope, still a no.

Kirk B.

RumbleFish 03-08-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3624772)
I am in England. Our steering wheel is on the right

There's your problem, steering wheel is on the wrong side:icon17:

chubbs 03-08-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3624788)
There's your problem, steering wheel is on the wrong side:icon17:

ermmmmm - Japanese car. What side of the road do the Japanese drive on? :tiphat:

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3624789)
ermmmmm - Japanese car. What side of the road do the Japanese drive on? :tiphat:

Get out of here with that logic of yours!

RumbleFish 03-08-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3624789)
ermmmmm - Japanese car. What side of the road do the Japanese drive on? :tiphat:

Oh, you English are *so* superior, aren't you? Well, would you like to know what you'd be without us, the good ol' U.S. of A. to protect you? I'll tell you. The smallest ***king province in the Russian Empire, that's what!

~ Otto, 'A Fish Called Wanda'

:tiphat:

RumbleFish 03-08-2017 05:50 PM

You know I'm just yanking your chain...or Yankeeing your chain:icon17:

NRGz 03-08-2017 06:17 PM

I have to always scoot up a bit when i wear pants or a sweater for a comfortable position..


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Spooler 03-08-2017 06:25 PM

Since my accident and neck surgery I have noticed some days I feel to close to the wheel and some days I feel to far back. Your neck can no doubt mess up your feeling of center. Do you have any neck issues?

cooltoy 03-08-2017 06:32 PM

I hate it when my panty hose ride up.

Oh... wait... wrong website. Never mind.

birdman71 03-08-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3624805)
I hate it when my panty hose ride up.

Oh... wait... wrong website. Never mind.




Always sucks doesn't it... :driving: :owned:

madwi 03-08-2017 07:34 PM

OP, do you have kids or did you give a spare fob to a family member?

ecoplunge 03-08-2017 08:34 PM

It was me. I've been flying over everyday at great expense and slightly moving your seat while you were off playing cricket.

cooltoy 03-08-2017 08:46 PM

Just the kind of extra service you can expect from our members.

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3624804)
Since my accident and neck surgery I have noticed some days I feel to close to the wheel and some days I feel to far back. Your neck can no doubt mess up your feeling of center. Do you have any neck issues?

Yep I get that. Muscles in back and side of my neck are always tight and when really tight it actually pushes my head to sit a bit further forward. I used to adjust seat around it but was a pain so I just leave it in the same spot now - and go figure, it stays there!

SouthArk370Z 03-08-2017 08:54 PM

If the Z uses the same screw actuator that I've seen on other cars, I doubt that you moving around in the seat is causing the problem. But I guess it's not impossible. A few wild guesses: you are accidentally bumping the button every now and then; someone is messing with you and adjusting the seat, changes in the way you are sitting (but you should get some forward movement with that). Good luck figuring it out.

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 09:02 PM

I suppose you could always find that perfect spot again and unplug the connector/harness to the power seat motor.

Jayhovah 03-08-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3624875)
I suppose you could always find that perfect spot again and unplug the connector/harness to the power seat motor.

And fill out your wardrobe with the exact same outfit for every day :happydance:

ChaseZ 03-08-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3624880)
And fill out your wardrobe with the exact same outfit for every day :happydance:

It's the UK, a polo and raincoat works 364 days a year :tiphat:

chubbs 03-09-2017 12:52 AM

I love this forum. I go to bed, I have a nice little sleep, I wake up, I make myself a nice cuppa, I turn on the computer and...

...2,349 new suggestions. Sadly...

...My kids have left home, so they're not to blame, my spare fob is in 'the secret place' and has never been used by anyone, least of all the wife, who hates fast cars and only ever goes near mine when she has to (conspiracy theories here, please).
I can't unplug the seat. If I did that, I wouldn't be able to make those tiny adjustments we know are so necessary.

You people have made me laugh out loud with some of your thoughts - thank you for them. Sadly I'm no nearer a solution. Part of me hopes that Seat Creep has not been heard of before. I'd love to be the proud creator of a new issue, 10 years into the car's history. Hopefully it could be named after me, like a new species of butterfly, or a disease.

madwi 03-09-2017 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3624936)
I love this forum.
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I go to bed, I have a nice little sleep, I wake up, I make myself a nice cuppa, I turn on the computer and...

...2,349 new suggestions. Sadly...

...My kids have left home, so they're not to blame, my spare fob is in 'the secret place' and has never been used by anyone, least of all the wife, who hates fast cars and only ever goes near mine when she has to (conspiracy theories here, please).
I can't unplug the seat. If I did that, I wouldn't be able to make those tiny adjustments we know are so necessary.

You people have made me laugh out loud with some of your thoughts - thank you for them. Sadly I'm no nearer a solution. Part of me hopes that Seat Creep has not been heard of before. I'd love to be the proud creator of a new issue, 10 years into the car's history. Hopefully it could be named after me, like a new species of butterfly, or a disease.

Maybe get one of those Dashcams that record on movement and have it facing inside the vehicle. might be able to catch the ghost or a wifey that is rippin' **** up on the roads while you sleep :icon17:

sp911 03-09-2017 05:51 AM

i think it's gremlins, probably at night when you're asleep. too bad Nissan didn't think of having memory settings. on my bmw which was 10 years older than my z, it had 3 different settings for 3 different drivers. when you found your sweet spot you'd press one of the buttons and hold it in and the memory was set so if someone adjusted it on you, all you had to do was press your button and the seat would automatically adjust to your personal setting. and that just wasn't forward and back, it was also for height and lumbar. maybe in 10 more years when the next generation z comes out.... come on Nissan get with it!

Louie cat 03-09-2017 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3624937)
Maybe get one of those Dashcams that record on movement and have it facing inside the vehicle. might be able to catch the ghost or a wifey that is rippin' **** up on the roads while you sleep :icon17:

this might be the culprit.

chubbs 03-20-2017 10:02 AM

Oh my goodness! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I think I may have the evidence of The Seat Creep I've been testing for (feels like I've spotted the Loch Ness Monster)...

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7..._083049260.jpg

As you can see, the right hand side of the tape has moved considerably (the two RH sides were level, until this morning).

What's interesting is that I'd noticed no movement at all ever since I put the tape on, over a week ago. But yesterday, when I was leaning across the car, doing the vinyl roof wrap in my garage, I kept accidentally locking/unlocking the car because the key was in my pocket.

I DID NOT get into the car. I DID NOT accidentally touch the seat button (I'm in the UK, my car is RHD, so the seat button is next to the gear shift, not on the outside). I finished the roof wrap late at night, so I left the car in the garage overnight, unlocked, with the windows down.

Got in the car this morning, to reverse out of the garage, and noticed it felt different. Looked down at my tape - and you can see what I saw.

Ooooer!

Now, I'm as sceptical as the next man - and I can hardly believe my eyes, but the evidence is there, I think?

Any ideas how it's happened? Should I try replicating the movement by locking/unlocking the car several times again?

JARblue 03-20-2017 10:25 AM

I'd reset the tape and try again. Not sure how locking and unlocking could possibly move the seat without some weird electrical gremlin. But if testing it out helps your sanity, I say go for it.

TerribleONE 03-20-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jarblue (Post 3629574)
i'd reset the tape and try again. Not sure how locking and unlocking could possibly move the seat without some weird electrical gremlin. But if testing it out helps your sanity, i say go for it.

:iagree:

JARblue 03-20-2017 10:38 AM

One other thought ...

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Do you ever let the seat creep more than once without correcting it? I know you have corrected enough that it would be way further back, but if you had just never corrected it, I wonder if it would continue to creep backwards.

For example, I have a motorized tv mount that is almost 10 years old and is no longer able to hold a precise position for more than a few days. I can set it and leave it hanging out from the wall, but after a few days it drifts to the left noticeably - but it just drifts those few inches and never any further. I can adjust it back to the original position using the remote and it stays for a few more days before drifting again - if I leave it after the drift it will stay in that position for months. I wonder if you're experience something similar with your driver seat (mechanical wear?).

Jayhovah 03-20-2017 10:51 AM

PROOF OF BIGFOOT.

I agree with others, see if it keeps drifting... and/or reset and see if it keeps repeating. MOAR DATA!

That being said... at least the evidence suggests that you aren't a complete crazy.


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