Clutch Failure, what is this crap in my resevoir?

m3chhawk · 06-23-2014, 10:06 PM

Problem is, there is no "readily available" solution for the CMC.

chii370 · 06-23-2014, 10:15 PM

has anyone considered using the stuff from a 350? Im under the impression its the same 6MT. that or looking in one of their other vehicles. as long as everything FITS I see literally no reason you couldnt use w/e the hell you want. Some people are even running aftermarket clutches and such so that negates the argument that they run different specs on pressures, tolerances, etc.

m3chhawk · 06-23-2014, 10:28 PM

The 350Z CMC won't work because the ABS bracket is in the way.

Z1 recently developed an external slave setup that gets rid of the CSC

chii370 · 06-24-2014, 01:16 AM

so modify the bracket? question is, is the CMC DIFFERENT on the 370 and 350? is any of it actually..... im sure 99% of the **** was just pulled off the old Z. power steering, aircon, alternator, break MC, clutch CMC CSC. all that ***** probably EXACTLY the same part with slightly different brackets for minor location changes. Ive never owned a 350 so i dont know, but has anyone actually bothered to take 5 minutes to check ? I know a few people here actually HAVE both cars. Hell the whole cars pretty much the same. same transmission, same engine just bored slightly bigger? or is it stroke? not sure which they used to get the .2L and slap on some garbage phone in solution for gas mileage called VVEL "heads" make it a little wider and shorter, erase a few lights, add boomerangs........and your GTG.

I should work for nissan, Got an idea for the new Z. Just take the old Z give it a 4L that mysteriously doesnt make any more hp than the last model but weighs 43 tons and sits higher than the driver, change the rims, add something shiny "people like shiny" change the lights, and increase the price. boom the 400Z is born. thanks me later nissan, i have all your hard R&D covered.

jwick · 06-24-2014, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chii370

so modify the bracket? question is, is the CMC DIFFERENT on the 370 and 350? is any of it actually..... im sure 99% of the **** was just pulled off the old Z. power steering, aircon, alternator, break MC, clutch CMC CSC. all that ***** probably EXACTLY the same part with slightly different brackets for minor location changes. Ive never owned a 350 so i dont know, but has anyone actually bothered to take 5 minutes to check ? I know a few people here actually HAVE both cars. Hell the whole cars pretty much the same. same transmission, same engine just bored slightly bigger? or is it stroke? not sure which they used to get the .2L and slap on some garbage phone in solution for gas mileage called VVEL "heads" make it a little wider and shorter, erase a few lights, add boomerangs........and your GTG.

I should work for nissan, Got an idea for the new Z. Just take the old Z give it a 4L that mysteriously doesnt make any more hp than the last model but weighs 43 tons and sits higher than the driver, change the rims, add something shiny "people like shiny" change the lights, and increase the price. boom the 400Z is born. thanks me later nissan, i have all your hard R&D covered.

So I guess your thing is just to talk out your @ss and see what sticks.

JARblue · 06-24-2014, 09:39 AM

Here's another prototype I've seen.

Prototype Aftermarket Clutch Master Cylinder - INSTALLED!

m3chhawk · 06-24-2014, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

Here's another prototype I've seen.

Prototype Aftermarket Clutch Master Cylinder - INSTALLED!

Yeah I read through that. The bracket looks pretty straight-forward. If we don't have a solution by winter, I will start playing around with designing one and making some prototypes with the 3D printer. Have a machine shop cut 50 or so and do a group buy with a DIY thread.

Unless Phunk wants to expand his product offering?

06-23-2014, 10:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
m3chhawk Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kansas City Posts: 878 Drives: '11 370Z SPT 6MT BLK Rep Power: 26	Problem is, there is no "readily available" solution for the CMC. __________________ F.I. CF CBE \| Avant Garde M310 \| BC BR's \| ONEighty \| Status \| EvoR \| Stillen \| Whiteline \| B&M \| Bespoke Details Boosted Performance \| Precision Turbo \| Tial \| HKS \| Innovate Motorsports \| Bosch \| Treadstone \| Walbro \| UpRev \| Depo

06-23-2014, 10:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
m3chhawk Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kansas City Posts: 878 Drives: '11 370Z SPT 6MT BLK Rep Power: 26	The 350Z CMC won't work because the ABS bracket is in the way. Z1 recently developed an external slave setup that gets rid of the CSC __________________ F.I. CF CBE \| Avant Garde M310 \| BC BR's \| ONEighty \| Status \| EvoR \| Stillen \| Whiteline \| B&M \| Bespoke Details Boosted Performance \| Precision Turbo \| Tial \| HKS \| Innovate Motorsports \| Bosch \| Treadstone \| Walbro \| UpRev \| Depo

06-24-2014, 01:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 17	so modify the bracket? question is, is the CMC DIFFERENT on the 370 and 350? is any of it actually..... im sure 99% of the ** was just pulled off the old Z. power steering, aircon, alternator, break MC, clutch CMC CSC. all that *** probably EXACTLY the same part with slightly different brackets for minor location changes. Ive never owned a 350 so i dont know, but has anyone actually bothered to take 5 minutes to check ? I know a few people here actually HAVE both cars. Hell the whole cars pretty much the same. same transmission, same engine just bored slightly bigger? or is it stroke? not sure which they used to get the .2L and slap on some garbage phone in solution for gas mileage called VVEL "heads" make it a little wider and shorter, erase a few lights, add boomerangs........and your GTG. I should work for nissan, Got an idea for the new Z. Just take the old Z give it a 4L that mysteriously doesnt make any more hp than the last model but weighs 43 tons and sits higher than the driver, change the rims, add something shiny "people like shiny" change the lights, and increase the price. boom the 400Z is born. thanks me later nissan, i have all your hard R&D covered. Last edited by chii370; 06-24-2014 at 01:21 AM.

06-24-2014, 09:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 45 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684442	Here's another prototype I've seen. Prototype Aftermarket Clutch Master Cylinder - INSTALLED! __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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06-23-2014, 10:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 17	has anyone considered using the stuff from a 350? Im under the impression its the same 6MT. that or looking in one of their other vehicles. as long as everything FITS I see literally no reason you couldnt use w/e the hell you want. Some people are even running aftermarket clutches and such so that negates the argument that they run different specs on pressures, tolerances, etc.