400 whp on N/A VQ possible?

bullitt5897 · 01-20-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

I thought 1slow370z ran stock internals?

He ran forged rods and Pistons... Basically a stage 0 short block from GTM.

Chuck33079 · 01-20-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

He ran forged rods and Pistons... Basically a stage 0 short block from GTM.

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

yep stock rods, pistons, crank, bearings, timing gear, valves, springs, lifters, vvel, ports(nothing is ported). the only internal changes were the cams and removing the oil pump.

There was some slow secret sauce poured into the trans to help with the higher rpm shifts tho, eat that TSM lol

Per his build thread, it's stock pistons and rods. Is that not the case?

bullitt5897 · 01-20-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Per his build thread, it's stock pistons and rods. Is that not the case?

They were stock specs... I believe that is what he was trying to get across. It was only for reliability sake... He did not get any performance benefit except for reliability.

Chuck33079 · 01-20-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

The Mustangs do make good power but also have an extra 1.3L of displacement. That displacement goes a long way. The 4.5L stroker in N/A form easily breaks 4xxwhp...

You can do the following and should easily break 400rwhp:

4.0L stroker kit $3-5k
Bare short block (reuse your own)
Jun 282 cams (not sure on price $800?)
Built heads $2-3k
Custom intake manifold $2-3k
Stillen G3 intake $450
Z1headers $800
Test pipes $300
3" exhaust $1200
Lightened flywheel/clutch combo $1000
Fuel system to support the power $1000

Total cost $15k-$20k with labor

Does the 4.0 kit keep the stock cylinder bores, or does it need to be sleeved? The 4.5 needed to be sleeved, right? Isn't that where a lot of the cooling issues popped up?

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

They were stock specs... I believe that is what he was trying to get across. It was only for reliability sake... He did not get any performance benefit except for reliability.

Ah, that's not how I read it at all, and I must have missed the parts on the build list. I'll take your word for it since you've actually seen the car.

bullitt5897 · 01-20-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Does the 4.0 kit keep the stock cylinder bores, or does it need to be sleeved? The 4.5 needed to be sleeved, right? Isn't that where a lot of the cooling issues popped up?

Ah, that's not how I read it at all, and I must have missed the parts on the build list. I'll take your word for it since you've actually seen the car.

Yes the 4.0L keeps the stock bore. There is an option to over bore if you so desire but it is not needed.

The 4.5L is sleeved and yes significant cooling requirements were needed to be put in place. The 4.5L generates a lot of heat! I have somewhere around 3 oil coolers lol and a giant 3" thick racing radiator with larger Spal fans.

Yeah I talk to 1slow370 every other day lol and yeah we discuss his build quite often.