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Shunya 08-30-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 178263)
:ohsnap1:

:happydance:

frost 08-30-2009 12:16 PM

I think that whether he owns these cars or not is none of our business, until he posts that he owns him. Once he says he picked up a gtr and an r8, I think it can be expected to catch a little grief unless some kind of proof is given. When I said I had a 350 and a 370, I caught the same grief and I had to go out to the garage to get pics of them to keep my rep intact. I didn't necessarily feel I should have to prove myself, BUT since I'm the one who brought it up for no real reason, it was my own fault.
Now, a 350 and a 370 is much less outlandish claim than SSQ's, so it's no surprise to me that he is also catching grief.

kdo2milger 08-30-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 178271)
I think that whether he owns these cars or not is none of our business, until he posts that he owns him. Once he says he picked up a gtr and an r8, I think it can be expected to catch a little grief unless some kind of proof is given. When I said I had a 350 and a 370, I caught the same grief and I had to go out to the garage to get pics of them to keep my rep intact. I didn't necessarily feel I should have to prove myself, BUT since I'm the one who brought it up for no real reason, it was my own fault.
Now, a 350 and a 370 is much less outlandish claim than SSQ's, so it's no surprise to me that he is also catching grief.

quick run to the stealership for some gtr photos :rofl2:

nogoodname 08-30-2009 12:17 PM

frost is right......

Shunya 08-30-2009 12:27 PM

^agrees with nogood

NonStopTuning 08-30-2009 03:51 PM

Do we have any other members with questions regarding the product on page one of this thread?

Any new user reviews, comments, or feedback regarding the NST pulley kit?

Seeing as how this thread was started around the topic of pulley, it may be a good idea to return back to the topic at some point!

http://www.nonstoptuning.com/images/...ST13710KRG.jpg

Thanks again everyone, good luck and have fun with all your projects!

:tup::tup:

nogoodname 08-30-2009 04:05 PM

do you have any black ones??

DIGItonium 08-30-2009 04:29 PM

I may have missed this somewhere...

- Estimated install time and difficulty? Did it require timing adjustments, so just a direct swap?

- I have an audio system. I understand you have the alternator pulley, but I just wonder what sort of effect it'll have in terms of lifetime of the alternator (i.e., does it end up working harder or just running up to spec)?

Improving throttle response is a definite plus!

Thanks!

NonStopTuning 08-30-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 178673)
do you have any black ones??

Not at the moment sir. All NST Pulleys are offered in HARD ANODIZED red and graphite gray. These are the hardest two colors and provide for best long term durability and reliability.

Gray is what most customers select if they are going for the "stealth" look.

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Togo 08-30-2009 05:15 PM

I think blue would be pretty sexy!

NonStopTuning 08-30-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 178699)
I may have missed this somewhere...

- Estimated install time and difficulty? Did it require timing adjustments, so just a direct swap?

- I have an audio system. I understand you have the alternator pulley, but I just wonder what sort of effect it'll have in terms of lifetime of the alternator (i.e., does it end up working harder or just running up to spec)?

Improving throttle response is a definite plus!

Thanks!

Installation only requires about 1 to 1.5hrs at any professional mechanic shop and is very easy with the proper tools. No adjustments of any kind are necessary... even the OEM belt can be reused.

And to answer your question regarding the alternator, I will quote what I posted on page three of this thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by NonStopTuning (Post 174724)
The NST Underdrive Crank Pulley is a 10% underdrive (slow down) pulley, and as you can see in the pic here, it is very close to the OEM pulley in size. This pulley is designed to slow the accessories by roughly 10%... not enough to "kill" any of the accessories, but just enough to free up a nice amount of hp and tq to send to the wheels. The excellent weight reduction also aids in providing better throttle response, quick acceleration, and better fuel economy. We did a bit of testing and decided that 10% is the sweet spot for this application. 20% or 30% underdrive may provide an extra 1/2 or 1 hp or tq at the wheels... but it may do so at the expense of some of the other accessories' functions, so we decided to stick to 10% for our pulley.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...e75e914271.jpg


The NST Overdrive Alternator Pulley is a 10% overdrive (speed up) pulley, and as you can see in this pic, it is also very similar in size, to the OEM pulley. This pulley is designed to bring the alternator back to OEM speeds. No slower, no faster. There will be NO hp or tq loss when using this pulley. The crank pulley is the SENDER pulley and it is the pulley that decides how much power the accessories will receive. The size of each accessory pulley determines how this power is used. The alternator will not be overworked, underworked, robbed, killed, etc. when the NST pulley is used. It will work in the same efficiency range as it would with the OEM Nissan pulley.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...c068050c17.jpg


NST Pulleys are NOT a "one size fits all" type of design. We take the needs of each application into consideration, we come up with a few prototypes/configurations, and ultimately we sell the KIT that works best based on the data we collect.

Both pulleys are compatible with the OEM belt and the OEM belt has shown to work very well during the past several months of testing. As long as you are using a new belt, or your current belt is in good condition, you should be good to go!

There are other options out there, and some of them are excellent options. We feel that NST offers the best all around kit, with the best all around options, at the best possible prices. Our customers feedback and reviews have consistently proved these to be the truth.

Thanks again everyone, good luck and have fun with all your projects!


Many thanks for your interest and the reply. Good luck and have fun with all your projects!

:driving:

kannibul 08-30-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 178766)
I think blue would be pretty sexy!

+1

That and blue anodized ends on stainless hoses ;)

jpit 08-30-2009 08:15 PM

NST,

Just a quick, stupid question as mine should be here tomorrow. I assume they have timing marks on them. I see them on the Stillen unit but not on yours. Thanks.

Shunya 08-30-2009 10:11 PM

NST hoping to see these results soon.
the earlier ppl do see these the faster these will sell imho

frost 08-30-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 179306)
Hi ssq :hello:


take no offense to any of my posts......

Don't double back now, you got all your thoughts out there :P

ssqpolo 08-30-2009 10:25 PM

NST. i want to apologize for making your thread a big bash-fest. I hope this could some how help your sales tho!
Semtex--really appreciate you trying to stick up for me.
to those that want to bash let me clarify a couple of things. I had the R8 for a month (a little less). I have a friend (my father's friend) that owns an exotic car dealership and he is who I got it from and gave it back because I realized that I was not in the financial position at the time to get the car (economy was going down)...no harm done. he was cool with it. when I say I, i mean my brother as well. He was shopping for cars and its what we decided. Since he and I are in the process of getting the clothing line up and it is he and i that play polo and work with horses, we wanted a cool car--r8 was the choice at that time. then after i got the new Z, times got better and I was obsessed with GTR. that's why we got it. im not trying to brag. i dont like ppl that do show off. I havent been on my350 for a while, for the simple reason that i, being a student/young will get flamed for nothing. and i know this will probably get posted there, but whatever. I am going to enjoy this site, and the cars I drive. simple. Bash me all you want, its not gonna make you "cooler" or more respectable here. post a DIY like modshack, or take pics of installs like Semtex, show racebuilds/vidoes like Travis and RCZ...then you'll get the respect of others. anyway, i apologize again to NST. I hope this will all stop

frost 08-30-2009 10:31 PM

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NonStopTuning 08-30-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jpit (Post 179052)
NST,

Just a quick, stupid question as mine should be here tomorrow. I assume they have timing marks on them. I see them on the Stillen unit but not on yours. Thanks.

YES! All NST pulleys have the proper timing marks on them.

You will see them when your package arrives, and you can see them in some of our pics if you look closely!!!

http://www.nonstoptuning.com/images/...13710KRG-2.jpg

Don't forget to post a review for us after you get your pulleys installed :driving:

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DIGItonium 08-30-2009 11:34 PM

Thanks! I just wanted to double check about the alternators. [Adds another toy to wish list]

kannibul 08-31-2009 02:06 PM

Other than anodized red and gray as mentioned - is there a reason they aren't offered in polished aluminum (maybe clear-coated to keep them looking great, just not on the belt area), or, black?

Also, 'nother basic question - where's the harmonic balancer with the VQ37VHR?

Thanks!

NonStopTuning 08-31-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 180175)
Other than anodized red and gray as mentioned - is there a reason they aren't offered in polished aluminum (maybe clear-coated to keep them looking great, just not on the belt area), or, black?

Also, 'nother basic question - where's the harmonic balancer with the VQ37VHR?

Thanks!

The Red and Graphite Gray are the HARDEST choices, and we build them in these colors in order to provide the best, most durable, longest lasting options to our customers.

Those who want the "tuner" look generally go with the red, and those who want the "stealth" look usually go with the gray. We have never offered bare aluminum pulleys and have no plans for any black kits at this time.

Thanks again for your interest and the reply, good luck and have fun with all your projects!

:tup::tup:

jpit 08-31-2009 09:35 PM

Had both the 10% crank underdrive pulley and 10% overdrive alternator pulley installed today. They thought it would take an hour but it took just about two. They ended up removing the alternator to change the pulley. Car definitely responds quicker and have noticed no difference in the power steering, noise or vibration. NST recommends using the same belt when making both modifications, however, the marks on the auto-tensioner no longer line up where they are supposed to (page EM-13 in the SM) - about 1/2 inch off. Will this be a problem and does anyone know the number of a belt that is slightly smaller? Thanks.

NonStopTuning 09-01-2009 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit (Post 181085)
Had both the 10% crank underdrive pulley and 10% overdrive alternator pulley installed today. They thought it would take an hour but it took just about two. They ended up removing the alternator to change the pulley. Car definitely responds quicker and have noticed no difference in the power steering, noise or vibration. NST recommends using the same belt when making both modifications, however, the marks on the auto-tensioner no longer line up where they are supposed to (page EM-13 in the SM) - about 1/2 inch off. Will this be a problem and does anyone know the number of a belt that is slightly smaller? Thanks.

Wow, you got yours installed quickly! Glad to hear that you have noticed a difference in your throttle response and acceleration. This is definitely a mod that helps in that department.

It is true that the auto tensioner will not sit in the same location as before, but this is not going to be a problem. Our local test car has been running these pulleys for about six months now, on the OEM belt, with no issues.

Thanks again for the quick post and the positive feedback. Good luck and have fun with all your future projects!

:driving:

Moemeister 09-01-2009 11:52 AM

got mine in yesterday and installed myself at the shop (im a mechanic) the center on the balancer needs to ne roughly 1 to 2mm larger the other problem i ran into is the factory belt will work butt... i wouldnt use it because it is too loose the biggest problem is getting a belt that works... factory is a k070810 gates belt... you NEED a 790 but they and when i mean they i mean every belt manufacture worth a damn doesnt make a 790 in a 7 rib belt... i drove home last night with a 790 k6 on :-/ ordered a 786k7 and just got it delivered ten mins ago i will let everyone know if it works...
ps. since the new balancer is smaller than factory i tried installing it by itself and the factory belt was too loose for my liking. with the alt pulley installed it was really too short i could slide the belt off the idle pulleys w/o even touching the tensioner not to mention it was completely retracted not placing any tension on the belt
also you do need to partially remove the alt and tilt it downwards to be able to hit i

jpit 09-01-2009 11:59 AM

Moemeister,

Did you install the alternator pulley, also? Looking at the marks on the auto tensioner, I think I need a belt 1/2" shorter. Would you have a Gates number for that? Thanks.

Moemeister 09-01-2009 12:16 PM

the one i currently have on it is a six rib and it is perfect size... maybe just slightly too big the one i just got dilivered is a K070786 Gates Micro-V AT and soon as im done installing this short shifter im pulling off the skid plate and tensioner and installing the new belt... altho beware the belt is a reinforced belt and lists for 64 bucks... i got mine for 28 shop cost which is still alot for a belt imo

jpit 09-01-2009 01:13 PM

I was looking at the K070786, also. Please let me know how it fits. Did you put on the alternator pulley?

Moemeister 09-01-2009 02:54 PM

so i got the new belt on and its perfect within spec and everything... and yes i have the alt pulley on it also.

well tyvm nst for the pulleys i do like them they work as good as they should but for further 370z customers i would either recommend to them a new belt or sell them one with the kit... i have pics but cant put them up till im home this cell phone is a pos... BTW Thanks for the package of m&ms with the pulleys they helped me through the install :-P

Brazilbro 09-01-2009 04:40 PM

Do you get a choice of peanut, or just Regular M&M's?

jpit 09-01-2009 05:32 PM

Mine were peanut. Is changing the belt a two man operation or can it be done by one?
How do you hold the auto tensioner back? Thanks.

Moemeister 09-03-2009 11:35 AM

ya mine were also peanut which is cool since thats my fave...
and the tensioner thing i did it myself from underneath the car and it took some maneuvering to get it on but i would polly recommend two people one up top the other below... makes it easier for the ac compressor and pas pump

tcarretti 09-03-2009 12:24 PM

OK, how hard of an install is this guys? I've called around and gotten prices for installation from two places. One for $150 and one for $240... both of which I think are a little high considering that from what I've read that this is about a 1.5 hour job with the right tools.

I'm not a mechanic so I don't know that I'd be able to do it on my own, but I don't want to feel like I'm getting gouged on it either.

Any feedback or information would be great.

Thanks,

Tony

jpit 09-03-2009 04:09 PM

I paid the mechanics 1.5 hours worth although they took a little longer. Must remove the starter and the alternator.

Pointman 09-03-2009 05:45 PM

Moemeister thanks for all the great info for the correct belt and install tips.:tiphat:

Denny McLain 09-04-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcarretti (Post 184592)
OK, how hard of an install is this guys? I've called around and gotten prices for installation from two places. One for $150 and one for $240... both of which I think are a little high considering that from what I've read that this is about a 1.5 hour job with the right tools.

I'm not a mechanic so I don't know that I'd be able to do it on my own, but I don't want to feel like I'm getting gouged on it either.

Any feedback or information would be great.

Thanks,

Tony

Tony

I had Cobb in Plano Tx install one for me this morning. It was 1.5 hours @ $85.00 per hour or $127.50. Probably took an hour to do.

tcarretti 09-04-2009 03:13 PM

Denny,

Thanks for the info. Did you do just the underdrive pulley or both? I have heard that if you do the alternator pulley, it's best if they remove the alternator to do it.

Thanks,

Tony

1slow370 09-06-2009 05:23 AM

Damn that makes me glad I install all my own stuff, by the time i have my headers, testpipes, and intake on I will have saved enough money to buy like three sets of these.

Edit: oh and RCZ you could always run the underdrive crank pulley and go for the next level up boost pulley for a supercharger, thats what i ran on my beretta and they were sized so i was actually making a pound more boost than before

NonStopTuning 09-10-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 187630)
Damn that makes me glad I install all my own stuff, by the time i have my headers, testpipes, and intake on I will have saved enough money to buy like three sets of these...

We'll be here when you're ready :tup::tup:

Denny McLain 09-10-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcarretti (Post 186369)
Denny,

Thanks for the info. Did you do just the underdrive pulley or both? I have heard that if you do the alternator pulley, it's best if they remove the alternator to do it.

Thanks,

Tony

Don't hate me....... Because I'm pretty and also that I had the the Stillen pulley installed using the stock alternator pulley. Frankly I have real issues with Stillen over the exhaust system that took me a month to finally make work so it didn't bang or rattle with zero Stillen support. However, ate crow and bought theirs anyway. Wanted the 20% under drive vs 10%. Does 20% vs 10% really make a differenc.....hell, I don't know.

After the header install fiasco, I was glad as hell to pay someone to install the pulley as I don't have the right pulley puller and it's a hell of a lot easier on a hoist vs flat on your back. Turns out Cobb didn't have the right pully puller either but got lucky and used two screw drivers to pry it off.

NonStopTuning 09-15-2009 12:24 PM

Any new reviews, feedback, or comments from recent NST Pulley owners would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone!!!

:tup::tup:


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