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tcarretti 10-27-2009 06:46 AM

Sad update on my part...

Initially, I was enjoying the changes from adding the UD pulley. I had put on about 500 miles or so and started noticing a couple of drops of oil under the car when I moved it. Also started noticing a slight vibration so I called the mechanic that installed it and he came over to check it out. Turns out it wasn't seated properly and was wobbling. I should have known better and taken it to a shop to have done. I told him to just put the stocker back on. I asked if it was still leaking, thinking it was coming from the front crank seal.

Anyway, he puts the stock pulley back on and says it's all good for now. I get the splash panel washed out and spray down the front of the engine to remove any residual oil... That night I'm STILL smelling oil so I crossed my fingers and took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the front crank seal is bad now. They replaced it under warranty and I'm just hoping that no other damage was done by the bad install.

Just a reminder that when you have bits installed, make sure that you know everything is done correctly. I feel like an idiot now, and it's going to take a little while before I trust my car again to be free from defects. I hate this feeling...

This in no way should reflect on NST. Their service and product were great, I just got unlucky with a bad install. Now I have an expensive paperweight as the inner sleeve has a nice uneven groove in it from where it was spinning incorrectly.

Pointman 10-27-2009 05:16 PM

I have this same worry. It took 2 of us to get the crank pulley bolt to let go. Im sure that places a lot of pressure and stress on the front seal. I believe Stillen actually recomends pulling the radiator off and using an impact. If anyone has installed the NST products or the Stillen pulleys I would recomend keeping a close eye on the front seal. This is not a reflection of the great parts produced by NST or Stillen, just the crazy torque spec's of the crank bolt. Nissan must have put it on with a impact gun from a tank assembly line. I have the NST products and the quaility is fantastic.

Pointman 10-27-2009 06:31 PM

Which belt did you use? The stock belt or the smaller Gates belt? Just curious...

tcarretti 10-27-2009 08:49 PM

I used the shorter Gates belt. I'm glad I kept the stock belt though now that I had to put on the stock pulley. So far since getting it back from the dealer I see no leaks but can still smell some oil. There must still be some on the block where I couldn't reach with the spray nozzle. Hopefully it will burn off soon and I can have some peace of mind.

Pointman 10-27-2009 10:39 PM

Are you going to go back to the NST parts?

NonStopTuning 10-27-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcarretti (Post 254257)
Sad update on my part...

Initially, I was enjoying the changes from adding the UD pulley. I had put on about 500 miles or so and started noticing a couple of drops of oil under the car when I moved it. Also started noticing a slight vibration so I called the mechanic that installed it and he came over to check it out. Turns out it wasn't seated properly and was wobbling. I should have known better and taken it to a shop to have done. I told him to just put the stocker back on. I asked if it was still leaking, thinking it was coming from the front crank seal.

Anyway, he puts the stock pulley back on and says it's all good for now. I get the splash panel washed out and spray down the front of the engine to remove any residual oil... That night I'm STILL smelling oil so I crossed my fingers and took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the front crank seal is bad now. They replaced it under warranty and I'm just hoping that no other damage was done by the bad install.

Just a reminder that when you have bits installed, make sure that you know everything is done correctly. I feel like an idiot now, and it's going to take a little while before I trust my car again to be free from defects. I hate this feeling...

This in no way should reflect on NST. Their service and product were great, I just got unlucky with a bad install. Now I have an expensive paperweight as the inner sleeve has a nice uneven groove in it from where it was spinning incorrectly.

I'm sorry to hear about your installation issue there :mad:

And I appreciate the kind words regarding our product and service.
Feel free to contact me by phone and I will see what I can do for you regarding your NST Pulley Kit.

Professional installation, from someone who has experience with installing pulleys, is highly recommended.

Thanks again, best of luck to you and your car with all your future projects.

NeverBoneStck 11-01-2009 06:27 PM

I installed on my g37 S and you can tell a difference .. Thanx !!

NonStopTuning 11-10-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 262407)
I installed on my g37 S and you can tell a difference .. Thanx !!

Glad to hear it :tup:

theDreamer 11-10-2009 03:37 PM

I was on the UH campus today and had to do a double take when walking past someone, they had on a NST shirt from your shop.

NonStopTuning 11-10-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 275070)
I was on the UH campus today and had to do a double take when walking past someone, they had on a NST shirt from your shop.

That's very cool :happydance:

We have a lot of local customers in the Houston area who come to our meets and events.
A lot of these people support us by picking up a Tshirt or two!

Thanks for posting that!!!


http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4262653_n.jpg

NonStopTuning 12-08-2009 05:54 PM

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...65af735bfd.jpg

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Any new user reviews, thoughts, or comments from recent NST Pulley owners would be much appreciated.

Many thanks for all the help and support everyone!!!


:tup:

NonStopTuning 12-12-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 172642)

nothing with OEM sizes for us that plan to S/C?


We can build such pulleys for any customer on a special-order basis, in fact we do this quite often.


:tup::tup:

NonStopTuning 01-06-2010 12:18 AM

Any new user reviews, thoughts, or comments from recent NST Pulley owners would be much appreciated.

Many thanks for all the help and support everyone!!!


:driving:

NonStopTuning 01-21-2010 06:08 PM

Thank you for the recent inquiries, phone calls, and IMs everyone. Your support of our brand and products is much appreciated.

phelan 01-22-2010 06:25 PM

I put a mini-blurb in my journal:

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 370802)
NonStopTuning Pulley Kit - (installed w/ new Gates belt)
Like others said, it's noticeably lighter than the stock pulley. The car feels remarkably different in acceleration. There's a nice flat road behind AE Ryne told me about that goes nowhere (and I made absolutely sure it was clear), and I opened up the taps...whoomph. I think my brain got smashed in the back of my head.

Also to note: my MPGs went up too, but I did install a few things at the same time. No complaints from me so far though, good work NST.

NonStopTuning 01-28-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 370816)
I put a mini-blurb in my journal:



Also to note: my MPGs went up too, but I did install a few things at the same time. No complaints from me so far though, good work NST.


I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying your new toys!

:driving:

Zello370 02-02-2010 08:45 AM

Problem
 
Mike just got my pullies, but everyone here, says i should have gotten stillen or wonn't put them on. can i bring my car to you and have you guys hook me up?

NonStopTuning 02-02-2010 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zello370 (Post 384903)
Mike just got my pullies, but everyone here, says i should have gotten stillen or wonn't put them on. can i bring my car to you and have you guys hook me up?

Well if you read the reviews from the people here who actually own and use NST pulleys... these people have nothing but positive reviews for our products.

Please give us a call during normal business hours and we would be happy to set up an appointment for your installation at our shop.

Thanks again, good luck and have fun with all your projects!

:driving::driving:

NonStopTuning 02-11-2010 09:47 PM

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Anyone else?!

Z eliminator 02-13-2010 04:13 PM

My pulleys are being installed next week with my headers. Will post dyno after install.

NonStopTuning 02-24-2010 03:40 PM

Hope you got your pulleys on and are enjoying them!

NonStopTuning 03-09-2010 12:44 AM

This thread definitely needs more pics :tup:

Z eliminator 03-10-2010 07:40 AM

Got the car back last night after the headers and pulleys were installed. What a difference It goes like a bat out of hell. It gets to 80 km much quicker from a standing start. Its scary fast when you put all the mods together. My mechanic who installed the parts could not believe how fast it excelerates. now. 4.08 gears plus Stillen G3 intake, CBE, cats, headers, with the underdrive pulley and overdrive pulley on the altenator with a cobb tune. Car will be dynoed next week. The voltage did not move on the gauge 14.3 to 14.4.
12.6's here we come !!!

DIGItonium 03-10-2010 08:27 AM

Can you guys recommend online sites to order the Gates belt? I haven't checked with my local AutoZone yet.

Mike, I'm going to order the pulleys in a few weeks and have my dealer install it. Do you guys still carry the gray color?

NonStopTuning 03-10-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 438165)
Can you guys recommend online sites to order the Gates belt? I haven't checked with my local AutoZone yet.

Mike, I'm going to order the pulleys in a few weeks and have my dealer install it. Do you guys still carry the gray color?

You should be able to locate the belt at your locat AutoZone, Oreilly, PepBoys, etc.

And yes, we will always have the gray and red kits available :tup::tup:

NonStopTuning 03-10-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 438124)
Got the car back last night after the headers and pulleys were installed. What a difference It goes like a bat out of hell. It gets to 80 km much quicker from a standing start. Its scary fast when you put all the mods together. My mechanic who installed the parts could not believe how fast it excelerates. now. 4.08 gears plus Stillen G3 intake, CBE, cats, headers, with the underdrive pulley and overdrive pulley on the altenator with a cobb tune. Car will be dynoed next week. The voltage did not move on the gauge 14.3 to 14.4.
12.6's here we come !!!

Glad to hear your review. Good luck at the track!

:driving:

NYBladeZ 03-13-2010 02:45 PM

In for dyno results on a 370z, seems like a cool mod and I can always sell them if and when I go F.I. $200 is a great price as well.

DIGItonium 03-14-2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NonStopTuning (Post 438479)
You should be able to locate the belt at your locat AutoZone, Oreilly, PepBoys, etc.

And yes, we will always have the gray and red kits available :tup::tup:

Sweet... AZ didn't have it, and OReilly ordered one and should come in Tuesday. I can't wait to get these pulleys!!! :excited:

Brazilbro 03-14-2010 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 438124)
Got the car back last night after the headers and pulleys were installed. What a difference It goes like a bat out of hell. It gets to 80 km much quicker from a standing start. Its scary fast when you put all the mods together. My mechanic who installed the parts could not believe how fast it excelerates. now. 4.08 gears plus Stillen G3 intake, CBE, cats, headers, with the underdrive pulley and overdrive pulley on the altenator with a cobb tune. Car will be dynoed next week. The voltage did not move on the gauge 14.3 to 14.4.
12.6's here we come !!!

what are you going to do when you put the S/C on.. do these pulleys work with the GTM S/C?

thegraylady 03-16-2010 08:11 AM

so belts and pulleys what else do i need and how much of a hp tq gain we talking here

NonStopTuning 03-16-2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 446203)
what are you going to do when you put the S/C on.. do these pulleys work with the GTM S/C?

IF/WHEN you ever go with a supercharger that is driven off the crank pulley, you can remove the underdrive crank pulley and contact NST for a lightweight OEM diameter crank pulley, or install the OEM Nissan pulley.

:tup::tup:

NonStopTuning 03-16-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegraylady (Post 448491)
so belts and pulleys what else do i need and how much of a hp tq gain we talking here

You don't need anything else, no other modification of any sort is necessary. And as far as HP, TQ, and throttle response goes... please check page one of this thread. This is a VERY noticeable performance booster.

:driving:

ZKindaGuy 03-16-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NonStopTuning (Post 171765)
The more HP and TQ an engine makes, the more lightweight underdrive pulleys can free up.

Just for reference, the dyno chart from our latest R&D project, the BMW 335i...

http://www.nonstoptuning.com/images/...0BMWHPdyno.jpg

http://www.nonstoptuning.com/images/...0BMWTQdyno.jpg

Roughly 20whp and 20wtq at 6,000 RPM: NST - NonStopTuning Blog

:tup::tup:

That is the worst looking dyno graph I have ever seen in the 13 years I have been involved in getting my cars dynoed. Is that erratic power and torque as well as curve typical behavior for of a BMW engine???

JB-370z 03-17-2010 05:13 PM

Do you think these will pair well with a turbo system???

NonStopTuning 03-17-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 450063)
That is the worst looking dyno graph I have ever seen in the 13 years I have been involved in getting my cars dynoed. Is that erratic power and torque as well as curve typical behavior for of a BMW engine???

Not entirely sure. This was the first 335i we have put on a dyno, and it was not running the OEM BMW map. But one thing is clear, the NST pulley made a noticeable difference across the RPM band.

We'll be testing with a bone stock 335i in the next couple weeks and will compare the behavior.

:driving:

NonStopTuning 03-17-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 451333)
Do you think these will pair well with a turbo system???

Yes, very well. Underdrive pulley kits like this one usually free up more power on a turbo car compared to n/a setups, and help with spool times and overall response.

:tup:

thegraylady 03-18-2010 10:15 PM

does anyone know where i can go to locate a gate belt in ny

DIGItonium 03-18-2010 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegraylady (Post 453724)
does anyone know where i can go to locate a gate belt in ny

I got mine from O'Reilly Auto Parts. They didn't have any in stock, but ordered one.

BTW... I received the pulleys and hope to install it next week.

DIGItonium 03-23-2010 11:38 AM

Brief Review
 
The pulleys and new belt were installed this morning. It took about a couple of hours at the dealership.

Installation Complications
The tech had to sand the crank pulley to get it to fit properly. He says there is a difference in diameter of the hole which required a bit of work. It's a good thing he didn't hammer it down.

Dealer Install Cost
The install bill would've been under $200, but the tally was $363! My dealer gave me a slight discount and dropped it to $324.

Initial Impressions
Voltages are normal with virtually no change from stock. Slightly more smooth and lighter acceleration and throttle response. SRM throttle blip is quicker. I'll give it a few days to see what MPG difference is (20.6-21.6 MPG stock). Overall a great starter mod!

ZForce 03-24-2010 02:04 AM

Good info on the complications ^
Been looking at this for my next mod, but not excited about the labor cost at $363 for a part that runs, what $200. But the gains may out weigh to total cost.


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