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nhbpcivicsi 12-22-2013 09:24 PM

Not another oil/filter thread...
 
Well hello there everyone :tup: first off i wanna say that i do realize that this topic has been discussed multiple times but i would like to get an updated discussion around this topic. First of all, i've had the Z nismo for about a month now and its time for an oil change, which brand oil/filter do you guys recommend? i figured i would buy my own oil and filter but what im concerned about is if i do so, and if somehow it ends up causing a problem to the car, will the dealership void the warranty and claim that they are not supposed to fix anything related since i used a different oil/filter?
Again im sorry because this is a repeated topic :happydance: any input would be appreciated

equalme 12-22-2013 09:41 PM

Purolator PL14610
Mobil 1 0w40

nhbpcivicsi 12-22-2013 10:11 PM

i do not have a driver's manual, but does it recommend 0w40 (regardless of weather conditions)?

onzedge 12-22-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2620711)
i do not have a driver's manual, but does it recommend 0w40 (regardless of weather conditions)?

No. Do not use 0-40.

Use 5-30 as the manual specifies.

I use Redline 5-30 and K%N filter.

frost 12-22-2013 10:16 PM

"like to get an updated discussion"

How much do you believe oil has changed since the last time this was discussed? :ugh:

nhbpcivicsi 12-22-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2620714)
No. Do not use 0-40.

Use 5-30 as the manual specifies.

I use Redline 5-30 and K%N filter.

This is the exact combination that i had in mind, my only concern was the K&N filter.. i just hope that the dealership wont count that as an aftermarket "mod" because Redline is somewhat like Ester

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2620715)
"like to get an updated discussion"

How much do you believe oil has changed since the last time this was discussed? :ugh:

Lol sorry what i meant was that this topic was lastly discussed about 2-3 years ago and maybe some people have developed a better understanding of what works best for this engine :bowrofl:

XwChriswX 12-22-2013 10:24 PM

Redline 5w30

Purolator PureONE 14612 (Shorter filter since I have an Oil Cooler w/ Thermostatic sandwich plate)

megalapagas 12-22-2013 10:27 PM

Man I went through that same boat I just decided to go for 5/30 Mobil 1 and I've always used the Mobil 1 filter and I'm 71k on my z. I did run 10/30 royal purple but I was Naive and changed oil immediately. I was going to try 0/40 but why bother with that I mean our cars are designed for 5/30 oil.

H2O_Doc 12-22-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 2620715)
"like to get an updated discussion"

How much do you believe oil has changed since the last time this was discussed? :ugh:

Completely different dinosaurs.

nhbpcivicsi 12-22-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2620726)
Redline 5w30

Purolator PureONE 14612 (Shorter filter since I have an Oil Cooler w/ Thermostatic sandwich plate)

I think im somewhat convinced to use Redline 5w30, but in my situation would i just use the 14610 instead? and also would a nismo require anything different?

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Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2620729)
Man I went through that same boat I just decided to go for 5/30 Mobil 1 and I've always used the Mobil 1 filter and I'm 71k on my z. I did run 10/30 royal purple but I was Naive and changed oil immediately. I was going to try 0/40 but why bother with that I mean our cars are designed for 5/30 oil.

same here man i've always used Mobil 1 on all my previous cars and never had an issue, i just feel like Redline would probably be the better option here, only because its more expensive lol

XwChriswX 12-22-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2620715)
"like to get an updated discussion"

How much do you believe oil has changed since the last time this was discussed? :ugh:

Before they were using Saudi Arabian Dinosaurs, now we're able to use Mexican Dinosaurs.

XwChriswX 12-22-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2620736)
I think im somewhat convinced to use Redline 5w30, but in my situation would i just use the 14610 instead? and also would a nismo require anything different?

Both filters the 14610 and the 14612 will work fine. The 14612 I use because it is shorter and is easier to get into the cramped space with the thermostatic plate. If you do not have one, the 14610 will work fine for a base or a Nismo.

IDZRVIT 12-23-2013 07:49 AM

DON'T OVER THINK OIL AND FILTERS!!!

Nissan engineers designed your Z - not the internet forums. The OM says 5W-30, dino or synthetic. Your call. Any SAE approved oil will work just fine. Just change it at regular intervals. Same goes for the oil filter. Now go get an oil change and drive your Z and quit worrying about oil types.

H2O_Doc 12-23-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2620739)
Before they were using Saudi Arabian Dinosaurs, now we're able to use Mexican Dinosaurs.

That would account for the accent.

Female T-Rexs in burqas always creep me out. A T-Rex in a sombrero, now that's a relaxed lizard.

Chuck33079 12-23-2013 08:30 AM

When the question is about oil, the answer is to go do some reading over at Bob Is The Oil Guy.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...otor_Oil_(PCMO)

MacLean 12-23-2013 09:20 AM

When I got my oil cooler installed, the shop recommended that I use Shell Rotellat 15W-40 & Fram oil filter PH3950.

onzedge 12-23-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 2621147)
When I got my oil cooler installed, the shop recommended that I use Shell Rotellat 15W-40 & Fram oil filter PH3950.

Your shop needs to re-think that recommendation.

03g35coupe6mt 12-23-2013 11:04 AM

Purolator pure one 14610 which fits just fine with my oil cooler sandwich plate and Redline 5w30

onzedge 12-23-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 03g35coupe6mt (Post 2621281)
Purolator pure one 14610 which fits just fine with my oil cooler sandwich plate and Redline 5w30

:tup:

Chuck33079 12-23-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2621232)
Your shop needs to re-think that recommendation.

What part? The weight, filter or oil type? Rotella synth is what my shop recommends as well, and I've used it for years on other cars.

The 15w40 is a bit out there. I was recommended a 5w40 as opposed to the stock weight.

I've never been a fan of fram filters.

COSMO 12-23-2013 12:36 PM

Motul 5w-30, mobil 1 oil filter

XwChriswX 12-23-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2621093)
When the question is about oil, the answer is to go do some reading over at Bob Is The Oil Guy.

Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Cars/Pickups/Vans/SUVs | Bob Is The Oil Guy)

I hate reading. :rolleyes:

nhbpcivicsi 12-23-2013 06:41 PM

I'm very surprised that nobody mentioned Royal Purple. I called Advance Auto Part and they said that I should get the PureOne 14612 not the 14610, any idea why? guess I will be running Royal Purple based on this article (I recommend you take a look):
http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

Chuck33079 12-23-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2621968)
I'm very surprised that nobody mentioned Royal Purple. I called Advance Auto Part and they said that I should get the PureOne 14612 not the 14610, any idea why? guess I will be running Royal Purple based on this article (I recommend you take a look):
http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

If you go do some reading over at the forum I linked you to, you'll see that RP shears down pretty quickly.

onzedge 12-23-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2621968)
I'm very surprised that nobody mentioned Royal Purple. I called Advance Auto Part and they said that I should get the PureOne 14612 not the 14610, any idea why? guess I will be running Royal Purple based on this article (I recommend you take a look):
http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

That is due to the fact that Royal Purple is junk.

equalme 12-23-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2621968)
I'm very surprised that nobody mentioned Royal Purple. I called Advance Auto Part and they said that I should get the PureOne 14612 not the 14610, any idea why? guess I will be running Royal Purple based on this article (I recommend you take a look):
http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

Because the 14612 is officially the correct size. The 14610 is longer. Just order it off of Amazon.

XwChriswX 12-23-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2622009)
That is due to the fact that Royal Purple is junk.

But but!! G.I.Joe endorses it!

Chuck33079 12-23-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2622009)
That is due to the fact that Royal Purple is junk.

Well marketed, but nothing special. I run it in my lawnmower.

nhbpcivicsi 12-23-2013 07:03 PM

never been this confused before.. why can't this be simple?

onzedge 12-23-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2622030)
never been this confused before.. why can't this be simple?

What part is confusing?

If you want to keep it simple, use Mobil 1 5-30 oil and a K&N HP-1008 filter. Purolator filter is good too.

nhbpcivicsi 12-23-2013 07:45 PM

the fact that there are so many options out there and everybody says something different. Called the dealership to see how many quarts I need to bring, they said 6. Told them I was planning on using RP which they thought was just fine, then when I said PureOne the service guy freaked out and advised me not to use them..

roy'sz 12-23-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2622088)
the fact that there are so many options out there and everybody says something different. Called the dealership to see how many quarts I need to bring, they said 6. Told them I was planning on using RP which they thought was just fine, then when I said PureOne the service guy freaked out and advised me not to use them..

Yeah you need to use a synthetic oil. If you are so freakin confused then go buy Nissan ester based oil and a Nissan oil filter. and you need 5qts not 6. you put 6 in and you will regret it I promise you...that is unless you have a oil pan spacer that you did not previously state.

Fact: My father has a 350z with 196,XXX on Mobil1 5w-30 with fram filters and no problems.

Fact: My 370z has 59593.xx miles on it using Mobil1 5w-30 using the mobil1-110 filter. That filter is for the Nissan titan but offers a little bit more filtering. MY interchanges used to be 6k because all of my driving was freeway. Now that I live closer to work and only commute 13 miles a day it is back down to 3250.

You should have done some research or some more thinking before posting up more questions that have been answered too many times to talk about in this thread. Hope you investigate what ISLAC means and how it effects your car. Get educated.

nhbpcivicsi 12-23-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2622120)
Yeah you need to use a synthetic oil. If you are so freakin confused then go buy Nissan ester based oil and a Nissan oil filter. and you need 5qts not 6. you put 6 in and you will regret it I promise you...that is unless you have a oil pan spacer that you did not previously state.

Fact: My father has a 350z with 196,XXX on Mobil1 5w-30 with fram filters and no problems.

Fact: My 370z has 59593.xx miles on it using Mobil1 5w-30 using the mobil1-110 filter. That filter is for the Nissan titan but offers a little bit more filtering. MY interchanges used to be 6k because all of my driving was freeway. Now that I live closer to work and only commute 13 miles a day it is back down to 3250.

You should have done some research or some more thinking before posting up more questions that have been answered too many times to talk about in this thread. Hope you investigate what ISLAC means and how it effects your car. Get educated.

You're taking this way too serious, I appreciate your input but you could've been a whole lot nicer about it. Research did not help at all because nobody will agree on one brand of oil/filter, and I believe that I am quite educated (being an engineer myself) but I wanted to take the opinion of people who have had the car for a longer period of time than myself. Being a car enthusiast leads me to ask such silly and repeated questions just to insure that I get the best possible outcome for my car

roy'sz 12-23-2013 11:37 PM

Hey bro I wasn't trying to be a d*ck, understand that I have been on this site for almost 2 yrs and have seen numerous oil threads. It's kinda like askin someone what toilet paper works best for them. Some people like scott, some like charmin ultra strong with the double roll, or some like using Bounty paper towels.

Being that the car requires a ISLAC GF-6 oil, that should narrow it down for you. If you read the owners manual on your car you would see that that is the requirement from Nissan. Now with that being said, the only thing that makes the Nissan Ester oil a ISLAC GF-6 is the ester itself. Next best is your Mobil 1 oil. Im not going to clue you in on the filters, I will give you this. Keep in mind what microns are and how many you want on your oil filter.

This is what I meant by educate yourself. The search feature on this site really is awesome and you can get a lot of information by doing the reading on your own. I recommend either mobil1 filters or k&n but that is just me.

luigi90210 12-24-2013 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2622146)
You're taking this way too serious, I appreciate your input but you could've been a whole lot nicer about it. Research did not help at all because nobody will agree on one brand of oil/filter, and I believe that I am quite educated (being an engineer myself) but I wanted to take the opinion of people who have had the car for a longer period of time than myself. Being a car enthusiast leads me to ask such silly and repeated questions just to insure that I get the best possible outcome for my car

for an engineer you seem to have a hard time deciding what oil to run when the owners manual clearly specifies what oil needs to be in there and what nissan recommends
:roflpuke2:
jk bro


if you want simple, run either nissan's ester oil, redline 5w30, or mobil 1 0w40
those are all popular oils here on the fourms, just remember every motor is different so you will have to play around with oils in order to find one your car likes, what works for one person might not work for you, and as far as a filter goes, stick to name brands, K&N, Mobil 1, ect.

I personally run 0w40 M1 with a K&N HP1008 filter

IDZRVIT 12-24-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2622088)
the fact that there are so many options out there and everybody says something different. Called the dealership to see how many quarts I need to bring, they said 6. Told them I was planning on using RP which they thought was just fine, then when I said PureOne the service guy freaked out and advised me not to use them..

Buy M1, add purple dye and tell folks you use RP! :tup:

NS370Z 12-24-2013 12:01 PM

Although I agree with the Purolator Pure One PL14610 being a good option do you guys think if something happened to the engine the warranty could possibly be denied due to an incorrect filter #. PL14612 is the specified Purolator filter. I guess you could leave the door open for Nissan to get off on a technicality. I use Redline 5W30 but it's difficult to come buy around here so I may go with Mobil 1 5W30 next change.

XwChriswX 12-24-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2623293)
Although I agree with the Purolator Pure One PL14610 being a good option do you guys think if something happened to the engine the warranty could possibly be denied due to an incorrect filter #. PL14612 is the specified Purolator filter. I guess you could leave the door open for Nissan to get off on a technicality. I use Redline 5W30 but it's difficult to come buy around here so I may go with Mobil 1 5W30 next change.

I would have them explain to me how exactly a filter thats of the same brand and series as the one "recommended", that is only longer (aka holds more oil) could cause some sort of defect.

And then :bowrofl: when they try to :bs: me.

Chuck33079 12-24-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2623293)
Although I agree with the Purolator Pure One PL14610 being a good option do you guys think if something happened to the engine the warranty could possibly be denied due to an incorrect filter #. PL14612 is the specified Purolator filter. I guess you could leave the door open for Nissan to get off on a technicality. I use Redline 5W30 but it's difficult to come buy around here so I may go with Mobil 1 5W30 next change.

Nope. Unless they're giving you free OEM filters, your warranty cannot be voided for using appropriate aftermarket consumables.

roy'sz 12-24-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2623293)
Although I agree with the Purolator Pure One PL14610 being a good option do you guys think if something happened to the engine the warranty could possibly be denied due to an incorrect filter #. PL14612 is the specified Purolator filter. I guess you could leave the door open for Nissan to get off on a technicality. I use Redline 5W30 but it's difficult to come buy around here so I may go with Mobil 1 5W30 next change.

the only way that the filter would cause the problem would be if it is a oversized filter and you have lost oil pressure. the only way to tell that is if you have a oil pressure guage. The 14612 is most likely for the titan just like the mobil1 filters have the 108 for the z and the 110 for the titan. same pitch thread on the filter bolt and same size filter housing, it is just longer.


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