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AzSpeng 12-19-2013 10:30 AM

ah i think we bumped heats on the communication hah sorry about that..

window removed from the equation, the difference is the seal on the cap. the seal being the rubber and a spring assembly that determines the pressure in which to release.

Chuck33079 12-19-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AzSpeng (Post 2616867)
ah i think we bumped heats on the communication hah sorry about that..

window removed from the equation, the difference is the seal on the cap. the seal being the rubber and a spring assembly that determines the pressure in which to release.

That's what I thought. :tiphat:

So assuming you got a window material that could handle the pressure, it is possible that you could make one that works for both and all 2009-2011 owners would need to do is use a different cap?

AzSpeng 12-19-2013 10:35 AM

I may have a solution to the pressurized system issue. I will design the top threaded bung in a manner that allows for a threaded adapter to be installed where the cap goes that will be able to have a pressure cap fitted. that way 1 part number can be used on all versions and just sell an adapter for those that want it.

AzSpeng 12-19-2013 10:36 AM

I dont have the capabilities to make a pressure cap for a reasonable price but I can make a screw in adapter of some sort.

Chuck33079 12-19-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AzSpeng (Post 2616879)
I may have a solution to the pressurized system issue. I will design the top threaded bung in a manner that allows for a threaded adapter to be installed where the cap goes that will be able to have a pressure cap fitted. that way 1 part number can be used on all versions and just sell an adapter for those that want it.

That's kinda what I was thinking. There's not enough 2012+ Zs out there to really make a separate design cost effective, but altogether there's enough of us to make the price more palatable.

Chuck33079 12-19-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AzSpeng (Post 2616883)
I dont have the capabilities to make a pressure cap for a reasonable price but I can make a screw in adapter of some sort.

Using the OE cap off the OE pressirized tank?

AzSpeng 12-19-2013 10:42 AM

yes using the oe pressurized cap. the problem lies in the way to use the cap. from a machining standpoint its fairly complex. thus adding more cost. if i can keep that cost out of the normal system it would be best for everyone.

so ill come up with an adapter that will work for everyone!

mab864 12-20-2013 10:12 PM

Here's the set-up on pressure tank on my '13. The first cap on the radiator is just a sealing cap with no pressure relief spring. I presume the coolant in the radiator heats up and expansion moves it under pressure into the pressurized tank where it cools and then returns to the system. Here's a pic of the cap off the radiator.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2012b47f.jpg

And a close-up of the cap showing it's just a sealing cap with no relief spring.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...ps348eacfd.jpg

The third pic shows the cap that is on the coolant tank which is a normal radiator cap. I think the idea of the system must be to increase the circulating capacity of the cooling system by 2-3 quarts. It's obviously not just an overflow system. I think this is the same type system on GT-R and the technology may have trickled down from that system.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...ps846d294b.jpg

Gadgetech 12-20-2013 10:53 PM

Instead of a sight tube or sight glass what if you could manufacture or attach something to the underside of the cap that would allow someone to just pull the cap off when cool to see the fluid level? It could be as simple as a ball chain with two different colored balls :ugh2: along the chain to indicate a high and low, no? Maybe something more like an oil dipstick with a metal rod that has upper and lower markings would be easier to make...I really have no idea and if this suggestion is stupid I would appreciate no flaming.

AzSpeng 12-21-2013 10:52 AM

we can do soething like that.

Maybe I can build that into the cap

Unique_Z 12-25-2013 12:21 PM

Chrome reservoir tank sounds good ;)

AzSpeng 12-27-2013 08:47 PM

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...25309364_n.jpg

Gadgetech 12-27-2013 08:48 PM

:drool:

mab864 12-30-2013 10:29 AM

Are those caps for the radiator tank?

XwChriswX 12-30-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mab864 (Post 2630526)
Are those caps for the radiator tank?

Looks like Oil Filler caps...

wheee! 12-30-2013 10:38 AM

Those look very nice....

XwChriswX 12-30-2013 10:46 AM

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/31/315a...1c34ce06bb.jpg

:icon17:


Can't wait to see the finished products! :tup:

AzSpeng 12-30-2013 10:59 AM

those are the caps for the coolant overflow bottle.

XwChriswX 12-30-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AzSpeng (Post 2630600)
those are the caps for the coolant overflow bottle.

Are you leaving them polished Al, or will you be anodizing them colors as well?

AzSpeng 12-30-2013 11:15 AM

ill anodize almost all of them black and keep maybe 30-40 of them in raw aluminum. Could do colors but once we get the groupbuy rolling ill have everyone do a poll on which colors. it costs me $ per color per batch so its not cost effective to run a single of 1 color.

XwChriswX 12-30-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AzSpeng (Post 2630628)
ill anodize almost all of them black and keep maybe 30-40 of them in raw aluminum. Could do colors but once we get the groupbuy rolling ill have everyone do a poll on which colors. it costs me $ per color per batch so its not cost effective to run a single of 1 color.

Understood. I would be interested to see a Red one myself... To go with my engine bay's aesthetics...

I'm noticing though, the pics look like the tank from 09-11 Nismo's and 2012+ bases.

What about the 09-11 base models? We have a different tank. It has just a plain black plastic cap.

DEpointfive0 12-30-2013 11:27 AM

Red black silver and blue are probably the top choices

wheee! 12-30-2013 11:35 AM

.... Black cherry.... :tup:

Fountainhead 12-30-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mab864 (Post 2619226)
Here's the set-up on pressure tank on my '13. The first cap on the radiator is just a sealing cap with no pressure relief spring. I presume the coolant in the radiator heats up and expansion moves it under pressure into the pressurized tank where it cools and then returns to the system. Here's a pic of the cap off the radiator.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2012b47f.jpg

And a close-up of the cap showing it's just a sealing cap with no relief spring.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...ps348eacfd.jpg

The third pic shows the cap that is on the coolant tank which is a normal radiator cap. I think the idea of the system must be to increase the circulating capacity of the cooling system by 2-3 quarts. It's obviously not just an overflow system. I think this is the same type system on GT-R and the technology may have trickled down from that system.

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...ps846d294b.jpg

Looks like to me someone swapped the two caps in their original positions.

Alstann 12-30-2013 12:12 PM

I can verify that my 2012 Sport has the same setup - pressurized rad cap on the plastic overflow tank, and not on the metal spout.

AzSpeng 12-30-2013 12:17 PM

the pressurized tank does absolutely nothing for performance and you will not see any gains by having 1 style over the other.

I will make an adapter in the near future so that if you wanted to use either or then you can.

AzSpeng 12-30-2013 04:37 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...74481956_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...06556617_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...95031017_o.jpg

phunk 12-30-2013 04:55 PM

looking great!

I miiiiiiight have to get a quote or two from you on some round stuff soon. Making rounds in the verticals kinda sucks. But I dont have enough round part volume to justify a machine.

AzSpeng 12-30-2013 05:20 PM

i hear ya on that! this lathe is VERY FAST...shoot me a pm. I would love to take on some of your extra work.

AzSpeng 12-31-2013 04:54 PM

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...48325955_n.jpg

AzSpeng 12-31-2013 05:38 PM

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mab864 01-01-2014 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainhead (Post 2630760)
Looks like to me someone swapped the two caps in their original positions.

No... that's the correct position on the '13's. The cap on the radiator is just a sealing cap with no pressure relief spring. That's why the hose coming off the radiator has clamps on it. The "overflow" tank is actually a pressured tank that expands the circulating volume of the cooling system by 2-3 quarts. The pressure relief cap is in the correct position which is on the tank.

AzSpeng... these are looking great. I can't wait!

AzSpeng 01-02-2014 12:18 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...99120804_n.jpg

AzSpeng 01-02-2014 02:52 AM

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...60895895_n.jpg

GaleForce 01-02-2014 08:36 AM

You guys don't mess around do you!?!

AzSpeng 01-02-2014 10:21 AM

No we don't!

AzSpeng 01-02-2014 02:40 PM

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...55577491_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...43193860_n.jpg

phunk 01-02-2014 02:44 PM

catchcan of sorts?

AzSpeng 01-02-2014 02:46 PM

You are correct. Catch can city....150 pieces.

scionide 01-02-2014 03:34 PM

:tiphat:

Caught my eye with those catch cans


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