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kannibul 08-12-2009 08:16 AM

Z Owners, check your oil, post mileage and how far "down" it is...
 
In another thread, several people have noted that it seems the 370Z burns oil, because after only a 1000 or so miles, their oil is already quite a bit lower than it should be for a car (even new...) - some cars taking a couple quarts to bring it back to normal!

So, this is a thread to see if it's a very widespread issue or not.


Myself, I literally just changed mine and dropped in 5 quarts, and it was just a millimeter or two above the bottom marker. I've got less than a 1/4 mile on it since then ;)

I'll be topping it off and checking every 1K for a while :(


So, I ask that all of us post our total odometer, number of miles since oil change, and how far off the dipstick reading is from when it was changed (or note factory fill).

Also, if yours is off, post your manufacturing date and serial number - this might help with determining if a specific "run" of 370Z's has an issue.

With enough data on this, we could all go to Nissan and get something done about it.

m4a1mustang 08-12-2009 08:21 AM

I think the only thing Nissan would do is tell us to regularly check oil levels and top off as necessary. :)

kannibul 08-12-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 147982)
I think the only thing Nissan would do is tell us to regularly check oil levels and top off as necessary. :)

I imagine as much oil as some people are going through, the cats will plug up.

zZSportZz 08-12-2009 08:27 AM

Ok...I'll bite....here is a repost of what I posted in the other thread...


I did an oil change at 3700 miles to synthetic Redline.

Dipstick after change read as...

L o--------|------o H


Now at 6500 Miiles (2800 miles later) it reads...

L o--|------------o H


The movement in oil level is pretty minimal and I'm not worried about this. The sky isn't falling. :)

ResIpsa 08-12-2009 09:08 AM

Deja vu...
 
I think I have some experience with this topic...

My original thread on G35 Driver "EVERYONE: CHECK YOUR OIL!" documenting the oil consumption problem on my G35 now is a sticky with 1,341 posts and 112,164 views.

I was on my third motor when I turned it in for my 370Z. Even the third engine burned over a quart every 1,000 miles.

Guess what? My 370Z also burns a quart every 1,000 miles...

racerxj17 08-12-2009 10:38 AM

Checked my oil because of this thread. about 3k miles on my oil change and it was a tad over one QT low. Not good.... My damn toyota 4.0 engine had pushing out double the stock rwhp and it wouldn't burn a drop!!!

6MT 08-12-2009 10:43 AM

People...SETTLE DOWN. Using some oil during and even after break-in of an engine is NORMAL!! My level was down almost 3/4 of a quart at 1500 miles. TOTALLY NORMAL!! Wow, unless you have a leak... please, give it some time.

6MT 08-12-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 147987)
Ok...I'll bite....here is a repost of what I posted in the other thread...


I did an oil change at 3700 miles to synthetic Redline.

Dipstick after change read as...

L o--------|------o H


Now at 6500 Miiles (2800 miles later) it reads...

L o--|------------o H


The movement in oil level is pretty minimal and I'm not worried about this. The sky isn't falling. :)

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

kannibul 08-12-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 148122)
People...SETTLE DOWN. Using some oil during and even after break-in of an engine is NORMAL!! My level was down almost 3/4 of a quart at 1500 miles. TOTALLY NORMAL!! Wow, unless you have a leak... please, give it some time.

Normal for what, the VQ37VHR, or Normal for Nissan?

I've had a more than a half dozen cars, even a few new-off-the-lot, and they didn't burn any (measureable amount of) oil...

Roo 08-12-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 147982)
I think the only thing Nissan would do is tell us to regularly check oil levels and top off as necessary. :)

Less than 2k miles and I have not had the car for more than 2 months and my oil level went from fine to below low. I don't know about you guys but I did not buy a $40k car to check the oil every week. Hell I don't have to check the oil in my hot rod that often!

6MT 08-12-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 148132)
Normal for what, the VQ37VHR, or Normal for Nissan?

I've had a more than a half dozen cars, even a few new-off-the-lot, and they didn't burn any (measureable amount of) oil...

Normal for ALL engines.

Roo 08-12-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 148122)
People...SETTLE DOWN. Using some oil during and even after break-in of an engine is NORMAL!! My level was down almost 3/4 of a quart at 1500 miles. TOTALLY NORMAL!! Wow, unless you have a leak... please, give it some time.

:bowrofl: It is not normal, maybe for Nissan but it is far from Normal. I have bought many new cars and even in 10k miles they didn't burn anywhere near this much oil.

kannibul 08-12-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 148138)
Normal for ALL engines.

Really, all of them? I'm pretty sure my lawnmower still has a quart in it, and I've never changed it, added to it, or done anything to it since I bought it 5 years ago.

I figure with the amount of time it's ran, it's got a good 1000 miles worth of use out of it.

On a more serious note...

My 2005 Civic, bought it new off the lot with 150 miles on the odometer. Holds 3 quarts. Oil change interval is 6000 miles by manual. Runs on 5w20 oil. If what you're saying is true, that engine should be bone dry by the time oil change comes up. Since then, I've gone to 15K mile oil changes after the first one...guess what, it's not burned oil either. 70K on it now.

My 97 Ranger - hell, I change the oil when I feel up to to it, which isn't often. MAYBE once a year. I also put whatever oil I have laying around in it...140K miles / 5qt. I bought it with 48K on the odo. It's not burned any oil...

My 2006 Honda VTX 1300c, bought it with 8 miles on the odometer. It doesn't burn oil, got 14K on it now.

78 TBird (first car) - didn't burn oil. Had *at least* 230K miles on it.

82 Malibu, don't remember the mileage, but it also didn't burn oil.

87 cutlass, rebuilt engine, no burn oil.

94 saturn, bought it with 30K, didn't burn oil.

My Dad's 77 CJ-7 had well over 330K miles on it, and it didn't burn oil.


The only thing I have that burns oil is my weedwacker, and hopefully not, my Z.

kannibul 08-12-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo (Post 148137)
I did not buy a $40k car to check the oil every week.

Exactly.

Mullet Parade 08-12-2009 11:19 AM

I'm supposed to take a test drive this weekend and it seems like every thread I read makes me less and less excited for it.

kannibul 08-12-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet Parade (Post 148153)
I'm supposed to take a test drive this weekend and it seems like every thread I read makes me less and less excited for it.

I wish I had known - I'm sure the Mustang GT I was going to test drive at the next dealership wouldn't have burned oil...

Or the Toyota Tacoma at the dealership after that...

Roo 08-12-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet Parade (Post 148153)
I'm supposed to take a test drive this weekend and it seems like every thread I read makes me less and less excited for it.

Don't do it, I regret buying the car more and more. The car just sits now because Nissan cannot fix the high pitch noise in the cabin and claiming it's NORMAL yet when I drive another car on the lot the noise isn't there.

Roo 08-12-2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 148138)
Normal for ALL engines.

Ohh give me a break. I have owned BMW 650, Mini Cooper S, Saleen Mustang, Ford 500, Toyota FJ, and a Toyota Solara all in the past 5 years and not ONE has burnt through any oil. Hell the 650 and Mini didn't even go in for oil changes till every 12-15K miles and guess what, they were NEVER low on oil.

OnCallZ 08-12-2009 11:26 AM

This car does burn oil more then any other cars I've owned. I currently have 3k miles, after my first oil change I've almost added 2 quarts since it keeps burning oil.

Modshack 08-12-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet Parade (Post 148153)
I'm supposed to take a test drive this weekend and it seems like every thread I read makes me less and less excited for it.

Yeah, the guys here could scare you out of getting a haircut. Then how would you keep that Mullet trimmed??.....:tup:

Mullet Parade 08-12-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 148164)
Yeah, the guys here could scare you out of getting a haircut. Then how would you keep that Mullet trimmed??.....:tup:

I don't, I just let it blow in the breeze.

Roo 08-12-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 148164)
Yeah, the guys here could scare you out of getting a haircut. Then how would you keep that Mullet trimmed??.....:tup:

So tell me, if it was so 'normal' for the motor to burn a quart of oil every 1k miles why do some people burn 1+ quart and some burn none?

6MT 08-12-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo (Post 148158)
Ohh give me a break. I have owned BMW 650, Mini Cooper S, Saleen Mustang, Ford 500, Toyota FJ, and a Toyota Solara all in the past 5 years and not ONE has burnt through any oil. Hell the 650 and Mini didn't even go in for oil changes till every 12-15K miles and guess what, they were NEVER low on oil.

Hmm... better sell that junk then. (wow!):shakes head:

Roo 08-12-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 148171)
Hmm... better sell that junk then. (wow!):shakes head:

Or how about Nissan steps up to the plate and fixes some of these problems they claim are 'normal'.

zZSportZz 08-12-2009 11:41 AM

This is the moment in time where I feel these threads will begin to get ugly. Lets stay on topic and just use this thread to just collect data :)

Edit: Argue whether its normal or not in the "z broke down" thread :)

6MT 08-12-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 148145)
The only thing I have that burns oil is my weedwacker, and hopefully not, my Z.

You better sell that too. :shakes head:

Ask ANY engine manufacturer....

You want examples?
1. 2008 Honda Accord 3.5L at 2000 miles it had used 1 quart of oil. At 5000 miles, it had used another quart. NORMAL!! The engine has 10.000 miles on it now and no longer uses oil. Hmmmm (?!)

2. 2004 Honda Civic 1.7L at 5000 miles had used 1 quart of oil. At 100,000 miles now... uses NO oil. (Again Hmm... (?))

3. 1995 Chev Suburban 5.7L at 5000 miles has used 1.25 quarts oil oil. Now at 189,000 miles... doesn't use ANY oil.

Am I missing something here? AGAIN peolple, calm down or sell your car.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Modshack 08-12-2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo (Post 148170)
So tell me, if it was so 'normal' for the motor to burn a quart of oil every 1k miles why do some people burn 1+ quart and some burn none?

I didn't say a qt/1000 was normal. I did say that is generally the threshold that Manufacturers will start to pay attention to you.

Engines and parts are made by people and machines, neither of which are perfect. Everyone interprets break in differently. There are a ton of variables. The world is not a perfect place. Some engines are not truly broken in til they are north of 5000 miles. It took 10K for my Audi Turbo to settle into a no-burn scenario. If everyone revisited this a year or 2 after purchase it would most likely be a non-issue.

6MT 08-12-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 148178)
I didn't say a qt/1000 was normal. I did say that is generally the threshold that Manufacturers will start to pay attention to you.

Engines and parts are made by people and machines, neither of which are perfect. Everyone interprets break in differently. There are a ton of variables. The world is not a perfect place. Some engines are not truly broken in til they are north of 5000 miles. If everyone revisited this a year or 2 after purchase it would most likely be a non-issue.

:iagree:

m4a1mustang 08-12-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 148181)
:iagree:

:iagree:

Caravanshaka 08-12-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 148145)
Really, all of them? I'm pretty sure my lawnmower still has a quart in it, and I've never changed it, added to it, or done anything to it since I bought it 5 years ago.

dude, change your mowers oil (supposed to do it yearly)...do the filter and spark plug while you are at it too...

kannibul 08-12-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 148187)
dude, change your mowers oil (supposed to do it yearly)...do the filter and spark plug while you are at it too...

Eh, I'm waiting for it to die so I can get a powered-bagging mower. I got it for $89 at Sears when I bought my house and needed a mower and didn't have the money for what I wanted - sort of like my truck ;)

Chupacabra 08-12-2009 12:34 PM

I just checked my oil 10 min. ago.

last changed, 3,200 miles ago with mobil 1, car has 7,350 miles on it and its has lost no oil.

[-----------x]
L H

so all is good.

Modshack 08-12-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 148176)
Lets stay on topic and just use this thread to just collect data :)

It is Pointless to collect "Data" when the great majority of these cars are miles away from really being broken in. This is not usable data, it's a bitch thread. Those that aren't happy should really just sell their cars...

FuszNissan 08-12-2009 12:34 PM

Nissan won't tell you what the guidelines are. Maybe somebody else can find that out.
Food for thought. 8.1liter Chevy Big Block V8 burns 3 qt a week, once it hits 80k miles, doesn't burn a drop after that.

kannibul 08-12-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupacabra (Post 148212)
I just checked my oil 10 min. ago.

last changed, 3,200 miles ago with mobil 1, car has 7,350 miles on it and its has lost no oil.

[-----------x]
L H

so all is good.

Cool - just wondering, what's your manufacturing date and/or serial number?

awesomez 08-12-2009 12:35 PM

I am at 3rd oil change, 800 miles since the change, it's at 80% full between L and H. The dealer changes my oil and always uses ester oil. Don't know how far it was filled but I don't see an issue. I change every 3K miles and do not normally check in-between.

Chupacabra 08-12-2009 12:36 PM

^^ and that would be located? I am work and too lazy to spend 1 hour outside looking for it. but if you can point me to the direction ill go get the numbers for you.

Caravanshaka 08-12-2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 148213)
It is Pointless to collect "Data" when the great majority of these cars are miles away from really being broken in. This is not usable data, it's a bitch thread. Those that aren't happy should really just sell their cars...

:iagree:

6k miles on my car...3k since my oil change at at 80-85% between the "L" & "H" Mark. using castrol edge synthetic (first change at 1k to mobil 1, then another change at 3k to castrol and won't change from now on).

A lot has to do with driving habits, If you drive the **** out of your car, it's going to eat the **** out of your oil...

kannibul 08-12-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupacabra (Post 148220)
^^ and that would be located? I am work and too lazy to spend 1 hour outside looking for it. but if you can point me to the direction ill go get the numbers for you.

Stick in the driver's side door for the manu-date. The VIN has the serial number in it (see sticky)

Modshack 08-12-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 148231)
:iagree:

If you drive the **** out of your car, it's going to eat the **** out of your oil...

And from spending time here the past few months, apparently a lot of owners do.......(hence my lack of sympathy..;))


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