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G37sHKS 02-13-2013 01:59 PM

Official Aftermarket Differential Thread
 
I figured out that we need a differential thread in this forum.

Please share your opinion.
What differential you have?
Do you like it?
Will you buy it again in future? (if not, what would you get?)

Here are some of aftermarket LSD available for our cars.


Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing (ATB) differential
Quote:

BENEFITS
  • Maximizes traction and minimizes wheelspin
  • Proven in drag and circuit racing, rallying and road use
  • Eliminates torque steer and snatching in fwd cars compared to conventional LSD
  • Maintenance free design and retains standard axle lubrication
  • Produced from CORUS steel billets throughout
  • CAD designed and CNC machined then inspected to ISO 9001 standards
  • Used by Ford, GM and Daimler-Chrysler as original equipment
  • Massive range available, from Alfa Romeo to Volvo
  • Beware of cheap imitations!

Reliability is total; the ATB Helical LSD units are designed using the latest CAD techniques and are CNC machined to ultra-tight tolerances from the very best CORUS steel billets. The completed units are then subject to rigorous in-house inspection on a tri-coordinate measuring machine before being dispatched to the customer.

Such quality means that unlike a conventional plate-style LSD the QUAIFE ATB Helical LSD unit requires no special maintenance or rebuilds, long lasting and it retains the standard method of lubrication, making for an easy, pain-free upgrade.

Proven in rallying, racing and on the road, the ATB Helical LSD differential offers safe, reliable, winning performance – everything you’d expect from a QUAIFE product.
Quaife Diff....


Nismo GT Pro Clutch Type Limited Slip Differential
Quote:

The GT L.S.D. Pro is the ideal solution for drivers who are spending too much time working on their LSD. Otherwise identical to the standard GT L.S.D., the GT L.S.D. Pro adds one unique feature: you will be able to re-set your initial torque with just a turn of your socket wrench and without disassembling your LSD. With a low, middle and high setting (6.5 - 8.5 - 14.0kgf·m), easy adjustments can be made for changing driving styles, tires, suspension, tuning or track conditions. As initial torque decreases with aging parts, changing the initial torque setting -LOW two times, MIDDLE once- will save you money on overhaul costs.
GT L.S.D. Pro


Carbonetic Carbon LSD
Quote:

The CARBONETIC LSD (Limited Slip Differential) responds to the demands of the novice or the professional driver seeking the most dependable control when competing in road racing, time attack, drifting competition or a rally event.
A vehicle’s kinetic performance is largely determined by the potential of the selected LSD. CARBONETIC release the Carbon LSD and the Metal LSD. Those LSD have different character. You can choose the best one for your vehicle.

Benefits
• More than twice the differential lock strength of metal LSDs
o High carbon friction material increases the coefficient of friction
 Friction coefficient of metal plate in oil: 0.05 ~ 0.15
 Friction coefficient of carbon plate in oil: 0.25 ~ 0.35

• Low initial drag resistance with reliable performance - surpasses more than 5 times that of metal LSDs

• Acceleration control range in excess of 10 times that of metal LSDs
o Vehicle will remain on track in and out of turns for exacting driving control

• More than 30 times the thermal decomposition resistance of metal LSDs
o Promotes increased driving skill - repeated time attacks or under loads of performance cars

• More than 70 times the service life of metal LSDs

• Virtually noiseless performance
• Compatible with automatic transmission vehicles
Carbonetic LSD


OSgiken
Quote:

The OS Super Lock LSD is the culmination of over four years of extensive research and development that led to a revolutionary LSD design with the capacity to house an unprecedented number of friction plates (up to 28 plates in total). Combined with our patented lock timing system, the Super Lock LSD is able to achieve complete lock in a progressive, smooth, and quiet manner, making it suitable for both street and racing performance.
OSGIKEN LSD


Cusco LSD Type RS
Quote:

The Cusco Type-RS differential is made for both the manual and automatic transmissions. Available in 1, 1.5, and 2 way variants, this diff is customizable enough to suit any of your needs. The Type-RS features a spring setup that is designed for low initial torque to be transferred to the wheels. Allowing the torque to be transferred more gradually keeps the plates from being damaged through shock and makes the differential more sensitive to user input. This results is a longer lasting, more durable differential. Ideal for mildly tuned vehicles being used for drifting and circuit racing.
Cusco LSD


Cusco LSD Type MZ
Quote:

Then there's the Type-MZ differential available for those of you with automatic transmissions. The Type-MZ uses cone plates and increases the number of clutch plates over the RS (from 8 on each side to 10) to increase initial torque. Due to the solid engagement characteristics of the Type-MZ, it is more suited for drifting and drag racing.
Features of the Type-MZ:
  • Better transfer of power from the engine to the drivetrain with minimal loss of power
  • Cone plates for high initial torque
  • Increased number of clutch plates = increased response and torque transfer
  • Forged internals for high durability

Cusco LSD

FAQ:
What's the difference between 1 way, 1.5 way and 2 way LSD’s?

1 way lsd: An LSD is activated only when the throttle is on and when the internal cam rings has an angle on only one side.1.5 way lsd: The angle of the cam rings for the off-side is very close to 5-20 degrees which will make the LSD ineffective when the throttle is off (during deceleration).The Across 1.5-Way LSD will work similar to 1-Way LSD during deceleration.

2 way LSD: The 2-Way cam rings angle are cut in the same degree on both sides (throttle on and throttle off sides). A 2-Way LSD will activate during both acceleration and deceleration. 2 way is a popular choice for drifting.


A sample pictures of ways of LSD's. Left is 1 way, Middle is 1.5 Way, Left is 2 Way

L33T Z34 02-14-2013 05:15 AM

1) O.S. GIKEN
2) Yes
3) Probably will never have to buy another one (no tracking)! I've got one in my EVO 8 too.

Mike 02-14-2013 08:28 AM

I've got the Quaife and it does its job. Should never have to buy another, it comes with a lifetime warranty.

DR_ 02-14-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2164578)
I've got the Quaife and it does its job. Should never have to buy another, it comes with a lifetime warranty.

Did you have the sport package VLSD and if so how much better is the Quaife?

SPOHN 02-14-2013 03:18 PM

OS Giken here. Need I say more.

MJB 02-14-2013 03:47 PM

I had a Quaife diff in my 350z. I think I'll go with it again.

TerribleONE 02-14-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2165325)
OS Giken here. Need I say more.

x2

Mike 02-14-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2164884)
Did you have the sport package VLSD and if so how much better is the Quaife?

yes, and the quaife is much better. I got a lot of slippage with the stock one transitioning from 10a and 10b at Road Atlanta and now I get none.

AlexRaymond19 02-27-2013 10:03 AM

So let me get this straight... I have a touring model with out sports package. If i get the Quaife ATB Helical Differential. It is simply a drop in product? I do not need other parts?

AdamRacer 02-27-2013 11:42 AM

I'm thinking about buying a Quaife as well and would like to know the same for a base. Is it worth it to have the dealer install or a local shop?

Valentino 02-27-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L33T Z34 (Post 2164490)
1) O.S. GIKEN
2) Yes
3) Probably will never have to buy another one (no tracking)! I've got one in my EVO 8 too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2165325)
OS Giken here. Need I say more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2165426)
x2

OS Giken

Zat_Zuma 02-28-2013 08:10 AM

Cusco RS 1.5 80%
40/40
There are better ones out there now, so probably not; but for the price and availability at the time ..... it was a bargain

cdoxp800 02-28-2013 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2186804)
So let me get this straight... I have a touring model with out sports package. If i get the Quaife ATB Helical Differential. It is simply a drop in product? I do not need other parts?

I think you have to get a non-VLSD stub shaft. I curretly have the Quaife sitting here waiting to install, but I am not 100% sure on this whole needing the non-VLSD stub shaft.
I cannot seem to get a straight answer on it myself. I have even called both Z-1 and Forged Performance and never gotten a straight answer. It really kind of disappoints me.

VSS370z 02-28-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2186804)
So let me get this straight... I have a touring model with out sports package. If i get the Quaife ATB Helical Differential. It is simply a drop in product? I do not need other parts?

I have a base model with open differential as well and would also like to know if i need other parts for install!

AlexRaymond19 02-28-2013 10:36 AM

lol sounds like a lot of people need to know about this. I looked on the Z1 site, and it says you do not need anything if you have the base model. Only if you have the sport model you need the stubs. But i still feel unsure about it

Mozen 06-17-2013 11:25 AM

So to revive this a bit...

I have a Carbonetics 1.5 way diff now and im sick of having to get it re-shimed all the time. Ive been hearing great things about OS and Quaife however i was leaning towards Quaife due to the warranty and no mess no fuss reputation.

What do i need to buy with the Quaife to get it to work with my car as it is already set up for the Carbonetics?

DR_ 06-17-2013 12:30 PM

If you get the Quaife QDF13L it should just drop in as it is a direct VLSD replacement. I just received mine and hopefully will get it installed this week.

Mozen 06-17-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2366855)
If you get the Quaife QDF13L it should just drop in as it is a direct VLSD replacement. I just received mine and hopefully will get it installed this week.

Let me know how it goes! ID love to figure out whats going on with mine and either rebuild the diff or replace it.

DR_ 06-17-2013 03:25 PM

I found these DIY instructions and unfortunately it appears with the QDF13L I will need to cut one of the axles. I though that was the whole point in the QDF13L :shakes head:

Mozen 06-18-2013 02:33 PM

Aww snap...i think a call to Z1 for some advice is in order. Good find on the DIY however im not thrilled with cutting anything. Perhaps ill make do with the Carbonetics and see if i can find a German shop to rebuild it.

DOOMMONKEY777 06-19-2013 04:55 PM

I currently have VLSD (stock) i have two on my mind
1) drexter mechanical lsd i got a quote starts 3k
2) OS Giken is my only other choice i got a quote 1600

I be live quaife has wheelhop and carbonetics needs lsd cooler for it to preform 100% under constant stress Drexter never gets too hot, never wheelhop. OS Giken has lil wheelhop inder stress no cooler.

dP3NGU1N 06-19-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2370598)
I currently have VLSD (stock) i have two on my mind
1) drexter mechanical lsd i got a quote starts 3k
2) OS Giken is my only other choice i got a quote 1600

I be live quaife has wheelhop and carbonetics needs lsd cooler for it to preform 100% under constant stress Drexter never gets too hot, never wheelhop. OS Giken has lil wheelhop inder stress no cooler.

I don't see how wheel hop has anything to do with the type of LSD you have... That has more to do with your bushings and suspension than anything else I think. Someone correct me if i'm mistaken.

DOOMMONKEY777 06-19-2013 05:57 PM

Umm i think ur right it does has to do with suspension n bushings they just prevent it by holding everything in place but wheel hop occurs when on a turn wile the differentials dont evenly distribute the force between wheels causing one of them to over twist resulting wheel hop. Also plz correct me if am wrong



Ahhh...ef it i dunno am getting OS Giken looks prettiest

Ivoidwarranty 06-20-2013 09:30 PM

Wheel hop has nothing to do with the type of differential used. It has to do with the suspension setup.

dP3NGU1N 06-20-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2370688)
Umm i think ur right it does has to do with suspension n bushings they just prevent it by holding everything in place but wheel hop occurs when on a turn wile the differentials dont evenly distribute the force between wheels causing one of them to over twist resulting wheel hop. Also plz correct me if am wrong



Ahhh...ef it i dunno am getting OS Giken looks prettiest

Are you sure we're talking about the same type of wheel hop? AFAIK wheel hop occurs in straight line hard launches where one wheel bounces up. As the LSD transfers torque to the loaded wheel then that wheel hops up as the one in the air hits the ground and achieves more grip. All of this repeating creates a resonant frequency that begins to damage your differential links. This is a very laymans way of describing it but the idea is there. Stiffer suspension and bushings helps this by not keeping both wheels on the ground more effectively.

DOOMMONKEY777 06-22-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2372597)
Are you sure we're talking about the same type of wheel hop? AFAIK wheel hop occurs in straight line hard launches where one wheel bounces up. As the LSD transfers torque to the loaded wheel then that wheel hops up as the one in the air hits the ground and achieves more grip. All of this repeating creates a resonant frequency that begins to damage your differential links. This is a very laymans way of describing it but the idea is there. Stiffer suspension and bushings helps this by not keeping both wheels on the ground more effectively.

Ahh..ty for the explanation i knew little, but wasnt shure becauce i have seen drift videos where wheel hop occurs, just thought it had to do something with the differentials. Am sorry for the wrong description, allthough i think OS Giken is the one i would go for just my opinion.:tiphat:

elperuano 06-24-2013 10:22 AM

If I have an 08 g37s with the RAS will the Quaife be just a drop in?

1slow370 07-30-2013 11:46 PM

ok i was looking for this thread recently and glad i found it. Ok i had the quaife and i'll clear up some instal stuff. The viscous replacement you do have to cut the longer stub shaft down because it doesn't fit. what makes it different from the base model quaife is that the c-clip that holds either the cut down vlsd stub or the base stub is in different spots, so even though after cutting it is the same length as a base stub the c-clip will still be in a different spot. ok next i have a question on the OS Giken it would seem from looking at the center parts that it is more of a 1.75 way, does it feel harsher on decel than a normal 1 or 1.5 way lock up?

Also the quaife does not be have well after you pull one wheel into the air, as this is paramount to it's design i have heard of guys removing or weakening the rear sway bar and stiffening the rear springs instead while increasing down travel to keep the rear wheels on the ground in all situations. <not to be done by an amateur or your most likely putting it in the grass/wall. the z also has brake differential assist which actually makes the quaife even more effective.

dimitarm 05-09-2015 01:50 AM

Does anyone know if osgiken lsd for 350z is the same diff for the 370z also?

Elmo370z 05-10-2015 01:20 AM

What diff would be ideal for mild track usage and good for DD?

osbornsm 05-11-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3193462)
What diff would be ideal for mild track usage and good for DD?

Quaife is the best for DD and has ZERO maintenance.

My vote, and nearly installed on my ride.

:iagree:

osbornsm 05-11-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimitarm (Post 3192839)
Does anyone know if osgiken lsd for 350z is the same diff for the 370z also?

Similar operation, should be different part numbers.

dimitarm 05-11-2015 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 3194292)
Similar operation, should be different part numbers.

i asked osgiken and they said there will be no more 370z version in stock, only 350z version which fits 370z.
i guess everything is the same

Driftomodachi 05-11-2015 09:54 AM

Quaife doesn't lock up both wheels because it's a helical. If you want to try drifting helical a are no fun.

clkio 04-13-2016 09:14 AM

bringing this back from the dead. Who here been running an aftermarket diff for sometimes? how you like it? how is the maintenance? I am leaning towards buying an aftermarket diff but I don't see much discussed about the subject.

JARblue 04-13-2016 09:23 AM

All of my research steers me toward the Wavetech differential. The company known as Autotech was formerly one of the main Quaife distributors before they decided to create their own differential.

I believe they have an exclusive deal with Nissan to resell them. So you can order them from your local dealer.

clkio 04-13-2016 09:35 AM

Thanks jarblud, I will look them up

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Hotrodz 04-13-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3458375)
Thanks jarblud, I will look them up

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Jar naied it and that is why I went with them. If I'm not mistaken Nissan uses Wavetrac on thier 370z race cars. Also I got mine from Vivid Racing, you may want to compare cost.

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clkio 04-13-2016 10:51 AM

Thanks hotrodz, much appreciated guys. I will definitely be doing my research

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GaleForce 04-13-2016 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3458442)
Thanks hotrodz, much appreciated guys. I will definitely be doing my research

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Maybe we can save some coin if we have 2 of them shipped up to Canada at the same time.


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