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///PureSwank 02-28-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2713687)
they are.

damn dude so we found out why now. thanks for all the rude comments for no reason when i was actually right on what i pay and what they charge.

If you re-track you actually made a comment about how much I spent. When in reality not every Shop is an Uprev dealer. So the norm here on average is most pay 300 for a license. How is he at fault?

synolimit 02-28-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2713694)
If you re-track you actually made a comment about how much I spent. When in reality not every Shop is an Uprev dealer. So the norm here on average is most pay 300 for a license. How is he at fault?

I didn't know there was a difference. Why wouldn't they all be the same? If you have a cable and you tune, you should all be the same. But whatever, I'm at fault for not knowing that. At least I didn't resort to being rude, calling ban and its better without him comments.

Mike 02-28-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713111)
yea i've noticed lol

also when mike said his 342 dropped to 320 when on a different dyno that wasnt Z1's dyno kinda says a bit towards that. dont get me wrong i love their products and amazing customer service. just a big number is all.

That was not on a different dyno. It was on the same dyno during a dyno day at Znationals.

Mike 02-28-2014 08:18 PM

btw, as for labor for a tune, it should be pretty high. I know John spent well over 6 hours of dyno time tuning mine.

2sl0w 02-28-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2712789)
I dyno'd 342 at Z1's dyno when I got my tune. At Znationals, it was in the 320s during the dyno competition on a hot day with heavier wheels, but still was the highest NA Z there, by a good margin that day.

I think they were using 4th gear at the dyno competition to save the dyno brake. Hence the lower numbers.

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synolimit 02-28-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2713111)
yea i've noticed lol

also when mike said his 342 dropped to 320 when on a different dyno that wasnt Z1's dyno kinda says a bit towards that. dont get me wrong i love their products and amazing customer service. just a big number is all.

Z1 does std correction. 66 degrees vs 77 in sae I believe. It will always show higher. Sae is industry standard. Take off 4% is what you need to do. That's why the motor shows 332 stock vs low to mid 270's at the wheel on dyno jets in sae which is the correct numbers and 18% drive train loss.

2sl0w 02-28-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2713107)
Nobody else got numbers that high with their headers. Z1 makes good stuff, but they seem to have a very "marketing-friendly" dyno.

Mike has and other cars have gotten within the range as well. It is not just the headers in that package that make more power... The modified plenum is crucial.

Z1 used their intake (which is similar to a gen 3) and a tomei single exhaust + test pipes. If you have gen 3 or equivalent with a High flow exhaust the 400hp package works as advertised.

With just the headers and a tune from someone other than z1 you are right... cars haven't been hitting 340+. But they don't have the manifold or a Jon Parham tune LoL.

And as far as the accuracy of z1's dyno ... I doubt there is a dyno out there that has run more 370z's. They have a wide range of results and would not market their kit at 400 crank HP if they weren't ready to stand behind it.


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synolimit 02-28-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2sl0w (Post 2714034)
Mike has and other cars have gotten within the range as well. It is not just the headers in that package that make more power... The modified plenum is crucial.

Z1 used their intake (which is similar to a gen 3) and a tomei single exhaust + test pipes. If you have gen 3 or equivalent with a High flow exhaust the 400hp package works as advertised.

With just the headers and a tune from someone other than z1 you are right... cars haven't been hitting 340+. But they don't have the manifold or a Jon Parham tune LoL.

And as far as the accuracy of z1's dyno ... I doubt there is a dyno out there that has run more 370z's. They have a wide range of results and would not market their kit at 400 crank HP if they weren't ready to stand behind it.


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Do you have a dyno in SAE from them? Because you can't stand behind STD. I 100% believe the dyno is accurate. I love dynojets!! But STD is just not the factor to use.

synolimit 02-28-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2sl0w (Post 2714027)
I think they were using 4th gear at the dyno competition to save the dyno brake. Hence the lower numbers.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Z done in 5th. To many people say the car will max out untuned or something or they didn't want the rollers going that fast. It should be 5th though and you are correct it will read higher. I think most do 4th though so at least the majority can compare numbers.

SPOHN 03-01-2014 06:32 AM

Z1 always uses 5th always besides when they host a dyno day. The dyno takes a lot of abuse and gets hot. While SAE might be true numbers, STD numbers are used when comparing numbers between cars.

I really careless in the end. As long as my car is not running lean, especially on the high end I'm good. My numbers are lap times and that always can get lower.

2sl0w 03-02-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2714121)
Do you have a dyno in SAE from them? Because you can't stand behind STD. I 100% believe the dyno is accurate. I love dynojets!! But STD is just not the factor to use.

I'll ask Jon. They just hit 338 again with the package. #checkoutthez1motorsportsyoutubechannel

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Megan370z 03-02-2014 02:34 PM

I like to mention about how no dyno read the same ... :stirthepot:

What I would be very curious to see is a true stock baseline and those modification :tup:

but I think from what I remember stock 370z get about 270-275whp on his dyno. which sound about right at 65whp over stock...

it could be better though :stirthepot: hehe

Masterbeatty 03-02-2014 05:55 PM

Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit.

1slow370 03-02-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2716275)
Is there anyone with a running stroked 370z or g37. I've seen boosted and stroked but not just stroked. I would think they would have the highest hp NA. But it's damn expensive for a stroker kit.

which is probably why they are all boosted, if you are going to spend that much on a motor you'd want to build it for low compression and boost it.

Masterbeatty 03-03-2014 08:39 AM

That title of, "The most powerfull N/A 370Z" means alot to some people, especially the tuner/ engine builder. I think that is more bragging rights than a boosted Z. What Shamu is doing with his VQ, i would do in a heat beat if mine wasnt a DD. Custom stroked, high compression, and HR heads:excited:


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