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YzGyz 11-30-2015 08:53 PM

Adding install video to help others. The pedal is easy to install. It's just tight to work in let alone recording a video 1 handed why showing what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXX0pwSbwv0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5je0...ature=youtu.be

YzGyz

s2krazyyy 01-17-2016 05:17 PM

Do any of you experience a a lot of play/loose clutch on a cold start? I usually experience a lot of play with the clutch on a cold start and then when the car warms up it goes back to the normal stiffness and has a full travel. Hopefully its not my csc going out, I also checked the fluid levels and it looks all good. I have my rev3 set at recommended setting of 75 afp.

Carbon_z 01-18-2016 10:38 AM

Just installed mine with my OS Giken Quad Clutch... Ill let you know how it feels in a few days

wsarver 01-19-2016 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2krazyyy (Post 3390438)
Do any of you experience a a lot of play/loose clutch on a cold start? I usually experience a lot of play with the clutch on a cold start and then when the car warms up it goes back to the normal stiffness and has a full travel. Hopefully its not my csc going out, I also checked the fluid levels and it looks all good. I have my rev3 set at recommended setting of 75 afp.

See post 150:tiphat:

s2krazyyy 01-19-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsarver (Post 3391622)
See post 150:tiphat:

Thanks that fixed my problem.

astro932 01-19-2016 05:13 PM

So after having it in for a week now I can honestly say this is the best mod for the money hands down... Like I keep messing with it here and there and I can say that it makes it so you can have exatly what you want!! Im always nervious with clutch mods Ive seen a few cars that have burned up clutches doing stupid things ,but with this if you just do as you are told all will be right!

BobBR7 02-18-2016 02:46 AM

I just placed my order today! Can't wait! 👍🏼:rofl2:

enrique_370 02-23-2016 09:11 AM

I hate the 370z clutch even with a helper spring. I think its time to give this a try before I sell this car lol. Quick question I have a poly urethane trans mount. Has anyone had this combo yet? Poly trans and the RJM Clutch any feedback would be awesome.

YzGyz 02-23-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrique_370 (Post 3420617)
I hate the 370z clutch even with a helper spring. I think its time to give this a try before I sell this car lol. Quick question I have a poly urethane trans mount. Has anyone had this combo yet? Poly trans and the RJM Clutch any feedback would be awesome.

I have urethane engine, trans and dif mounts. Yes, the car feels different when shifting. It's a little firmer every time you shift. The RJM itself is awesome. My brother's hated driving my car and avoided driving it if possible. Yes, my car is boosted, have lots of this and thats in it and they STILL avoided driving it. They all said, "It's not fun driving it. You have to Work to drive her." After the RJM, they said it's 100x better, "it's like almost a regular car now."

YzGyz

cowboy477989 02-23-2016 02:29 PM

Mine arrived yesterday. This weekend can't come soon enough.

enrique_370 02-23-2016 03:16 PM

The Poly trans is in the car already and love the shifter now. If the clutch can be a little better then its time to really start thinking about boosting this bad boy.

littlejuanito 02-23-2016 03:51 PM

I cant believe I'm yet to install mine :facepalm:
Anyone in SoCal that can help a fellow Z enthusiast with this?

YzGyz 02-23-2016 04:04 PM

It's an easy install. I took the seat out. Look it up on the Tube. I also made a link to the vid in page 11.

YzGyz

TBatt 02-24-2016 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3420975)
I cant believe I'm yet to install mine :facepalm:
Anyone in SoCal that can help a fellow Z enthusiast with this?

The install is very easy and getting help won't work. There is only room for one person and sometimes only one hand. Ryan's instructions at great! I'm 62 years old and way overweight. If I can do the job, anyone can. Simple tools are needed, a good light and do some stretching exercises before starting.

I did not remove my seat and still had room to do the job.

Night and day difference with the pedal. I too was about ready to sell my Z because it was hard to drive especially in heavy traffic. Now it is a breeze to drive and the Z is a keeper! Put a FI TDX exhaust on it too and you will have transformed your car into an amazing driving experience.

littlejuanito 02-24-2016 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3421739)
The install is very easy and getting help won't work. There is only room for one person and sometimes only one hand. Ryan's instructions at great! I'm 62 years old and way overweight. If I can do the job, anyone can. Simple tools are needed, a good light and do some stretching exercises before starting.

I did not remove my seat and still had room to do the job.

Night and day difference with the pedal. I too was about ready to sell my Z because it was hard to drive especially in heavy traffic. Now it is a breeze to drive and the Z is a keeper! Put a FI TDX exhaust on it too and you will have transformed your car into an amazing driving experience.

Thanks TBatt... I'ma have to give it a shot and do it

Jayhovah 02-24-2016 11:27 AM

I just emailed Ryan this question - but wanted to poll the forum as well.

I have the Z1 Clutch/Flywheel package and ZSpeed CSC. My OEM pedal is adjusted for maximum travel and the disengagement point is essentially all the way on the floor. Even still, I get a slight resistance to gear selection after the car is fully warmed up.

I understand the RJM pedal will allow me to configure both the size and location of the engagement window, but will it allow me to increase the stroke over what the OEM pedal can provide?

Ryan @ RJM 02-24-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3421763)
I just emailed Ryan this question - but wanted to poll the forum as well.

I have the Z1 Clutch/Flywheel package and ZSpeed CSC. My OEM pedal is adjusted for maximum travel and the disengagement point is essentially all the way on the floor. Even still, I get a slight resistance to gear selection after the car is fully warmed up.

I understand the RJM pedal will allow me to configure both the size and location of the engagement window, but will it allow me to increase the stroke over what the OEM pedal can provide?

Hi Jay, just replied to your email with a more detailed response but it sounds like you've currently got a bad master cylinder which isn't allowing complete disengagement of your new clutch setup. Extremely low engagement with your new clutch setup and HD CSC on the OEM pedal setup for max height is not at all normal and indicative of deeper problems in your new setup that should be addressed quickly to avoid harming the synchros.

Carbon_z 02-24-2016 12:47 PM

Yea when my slave went out, I replaced the clutch, flywheel and slave... Master also went bad. Very common with slave is failing.

Jayhovah 02-24-2016 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan @ RJM (Post 3421781)
Hi Jay, just replied to your email with a more detailed response but it sounds like you've currently got a bad master cylinder which isn't allowing complete disengagement of your new clutch setup. Extremely low engagement with your new clutch setup and HD CSC on the OEM pedal setup for max height is not at all normal and indicative of deeper problems in your new setup that should be addressed quickly to avoid harming the synchros.

Thanks a lot for the replies, Ryan.. Excellent customer service (and I'm not even a customer yet!). I sent you a couple more emails =)

Edit: Already in touch with my mechanic (I have no time to work on the car right now =/ ) and he is ordering a new CMC. Going skiing this weekend so I'll have the CMC replaced next week! (Ordered a ZSpeed stainless clutch line to go with it..might as well)

Hopefully that is the issue.

Ryan @ RJM 02-24-2016 01:34 PM

:tup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3421829)
Thanks a lot for the replies, Ryan.. Excellent customer service (and I'm not even a customer yet!). I sent you a couple more emails =)

Edit: Already in touch with my mechanic (I have no time to work on the car right now =/ ) and he is ordering a new CMC. Going skiing this weekend so I'll have the CMC replaced next week! (Ordered a ZSpeed stainless clutch line to go with it..might as well)

Hopefully that is the issue.

Jay, you're very welcome. Emails replied.
I think that's exactly what it needs to get your new clutch setup working properly and the new clutch line is a nice addition as well:tup:

s2krazyyy 03-12-2016 01:25 AM

Have had this RJM clutch pedal for about 1k+ miles and I love it! I come from an s2000 and that car had a great clutch effortless clutch. The stock clutch pedal on the 370z is just unacceptable for a sports car and I feel is why it gets a lot of criticism for feeling disconnected. With the RJM it felt more connected and I feel like driving the car is much more effortless and fun to drive. This is one of those mods you must do if you have a 6 MT!!

Jayhovah 03-19-2016 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan @ RJM (Post 3421865)
:tup:

Jay, you're very welcome. Emails replied.
I think that's exactly what it needs to get your new clutch setup working properly and the new clutch line is a nice addition as well:tup:

Just wanted to update - got my CMC replaced a couple of weeks ago as Ryan suggested and all is well. RJM Clutch pedal is on the list for the future!

TBatt 05-13-2016 03:20 PM

Update.

I have had my RJM clutch pedal for about a year now and it is working perfectly! Still loving it!

You will not regret adding this to your Z. It is a must have upgrade!

I'm installing the Stillen SC kit in a couple of weeks and after that I will be needing a clutch upgrade too. The new CMC that Ryan has will be part of the new clutch system. Thanks Ryan for all of your great work in developing these quality products!

littlejuanito 05-13-2016 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3479746)
Update.

I have had my RJM clutch pedal for about a year now and it is working perfectly! Still loving it!

You will not regret adding this to your Z. It is a must have upgrade!

I'm installing the Stillen SC kit in a couple of weeks and after that I will be needing a clutch upgrade too. The new CMC that Ryan has will be part of the new clutch system. Thanks Ryan for all of your great work in developing these quality products!

I'm yet to install mine :facepalm:

However, I do have an appointment to get installed at Specialty Z next month

FKhanro 10-16-2016 11:56 AM

RJM Clutch pedal installed
 
I had my pedal installed at Simone Performance in Newmarket. Fantastic shop to deal with. They also installed my B&M short shifter. Again, excellent work.

Getting back to the clutch pedal---A MUST HAVE!!

After spending a month trying to master my clutch and take offs, I was watching all the reviews that all singled out the strange clutch. For the first time I was doubting my purchase. Fantastic car, great value but so difficult to drive smooth or launch fast.

This pedal changed everything. As other reviews said, this is the way the car should have been built.

Also, dealing with Ryan has been great. Just to make sure the install was correct I stopped in and saw Ryan in person. He made the final adjustment to make the pedal height and throw perfect.

Ive got short legs and now I can keep my seat adjusted like I would drive an automatic car. Now I can launch the car smooth and I am at a very comfortable driving position.

Money well spent. A must have.
thanks Ryan.

rambo 01-10-2017 02:35 PM

Any left-handers able to install this clutch assembly with ease?
I just attempted this past weekend and after 30min of have difficulty moving around I chose to postpone the installment. There just isn't much room and laying on your back puts your right hand at the clutch pedal.
Any tips? Or any left handers able to chime in?

I wasn't able to maneuver well using my right hand. Couldn't even line up the pliers with the clip to take the wire off the metal bracket!

40 to 332 01-10-2017 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo (Post 3600711)
Any left-handers able to install this clutch assembly with ease?
I just attempted this past weekend and after 30min of have difficulty moving around I chose to postpone the installment. There just isn't much room and laying on your back puts your right hand at the clutch pedal.
Any tips? Or any left handers able to chime in?

I wasn't able to maneuver well using my right hand. Couldn't even line up the pliers with the clip to take the wire off the metal bracket!

I'm a left-hander and have installed and re-installed the RJM pedal assembly a couple of times … once for the original install and a second time when I changed out the CMC. I can't say that it was done "with ease". I think I logged about 6 hours for each install, but I was very particular and followed the instructions very closely and spent quite a bit of time making sure all of the adjustments were proper. I found the best thing to "ease" the install was to remove the driver's seat. With the seat out, it is much easier to move about in the footwell … and I could lie on my right-hand side and use my left hand to perform a lot of the work. I also found fitting my trouble light with an LED bulb as opposed to a standard incandescent bulb was very helpful since I didn't have to worry about scorching myself every time I inadvertently touched the light. Finally, I'd suggest reading the instructions repeatedly before starting the install and have the parts and tools laid out in the footwell in order to avoid having to climb in and out of the footwell each time you move to the next step of the process. Anyway, it can be a tedious job … but the final product is well worth it.

JARblue 01-10-2017 04:24 PM

I've done several installs for local forum members plus twice on my own car. Be thankful if you're working with the Rev 3.X because earlier versions were much more difficult.

I've spent as long as 1.5 installing and adjusting before. But the later models I've been able to install with minimal adjustment needed in as short as 20 min (add 10 min for OEM pedal removal). I'm 6'1" 240 and don't even bother to remove the seat. Being left handed shouldn't hinder you too much either - I find myself using both hands in awkward positions.

The first key is to have the right tools. The first install I did was rev 2.1 in my own Z. It took forever and I had to adjust several times and even bleed the thing to get it adjusted properly. Later installs I had tools that were better for the job (smaller mostly), which made for much quicker work especially for the bolts in the firewall. The second key that worked well for me is to find something to put outside the car level with the door sill that you can lay on - I use an old wooden file cabinet turned on its side with pillows and blankets to protect the car and cushion my side and back.

Kzonts 01-10-2017 06:18 PM

To add to this, I used a strap mounted mini light on my head. Worked great. Be sure to wear long sleeves unless you want rug burns on your elbows :icon17:

rambo 01-10-2017 07:12 PM

All great tips guys! I appreciate the quick responses!
For lighting I'm planning on purchasing one of those LED vertical lantern type lights that have a hook on top.

I have read over the instructions many times and I understand where the parts are and how to remove them, was just having trouble with maneuvering.
What I was thinking of doing is having my girlfriend climb in there since she's much smaller and right handed, and I could point to whatever part needs to be removed.

Did anyone take out the plastic piece directly underneath the steering wheel? I figure you'd get a much better viewing window of everything.

Kzonts 01-10-2017 07:41 PM

Really? Your girl friend?

C'mon man

rambo 01-10-2017 10:30 PM

Didn't realize that was some forsaken thing to do??
She's much smaller and right handed and therefore will have much more precision. Its not like she'd be doing the entire install. It would be the small parts like removing a clip.

Jayhovah 01-10-2017 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo (Post 3600963)
Didn't realize that was some forsaken thing to do??
She's much smaller and right handed and therefore will have much more precision. Its not like she'd be doing the entire install. It would be the small parts like removing a clip.

Not only do I support this idea, I may steal it. My girl is tiny too and wouldn't break a sweat doing something like this. I'll even pull the seat for her.

zfever 01-14-2017 08:13 PM

I just installed mine yesterday.

Thoughts:

1. Installation time took me way more than an hour (about 2.5 hours to install and then 30 minutes to drive around and then do some light tuning). This is 100% due to working in such a confined space and being incredibly uncomfortable the whole time; recommend being skinny or losing weight before starting.

2. The instructions are really good with the exception of the upgraded clevis instructions which should be part of the main install doc. Because of this, I screwed up and didn't loosen the nut on the factory clevis before removing the stock assembly and then had to try to immobilize the OEM clevis with a pair of pliers ... not easy to do under the dash.

3. The heavy duty clevis (which somehow I got for free; thanks RJM!) is totally worth the extra money; trying to put the OEM pin back through the OEM clevis would have been a bitch.

4. The initial settings on the clutch pedal are pretty good and I didn't have to do much tuning (and did not modify the AFP setting).

5. The pedal feels like a normal clutch pedal now, which is awesome.

6. While the 75% default AFP setting is head and shoulders better than stock and has a wider engagement window, I think I do need to tune it a little bit more to try to bring the friction point down closer to the floor and increase the engagement window slightly (clutch is engaging about halfway up from the floor and I'd like it to be a tiny bit lower).

7. I was incredibly sore after finishing this install.

8. I wish I had done this a year ago when I bought the car instead of spending a year trying to get used to the stock pedal.

PEPI 01-14-2017 08:58 PM

Hello

Quick question to check....
Is the pedal good for both left and right hand drive?

Cheers

Ryan @ RJM 01-14-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PEPI (Post 3602868)
Hello

Quick question to check....
Is the pedal good for both left and right hand drive?

Cheers

Unfortunately they are for left hand drive only as the RHD 370z uses a completely different pedal unit with different mounting compared to the left hand cars.

nis350 01-15-2017 12:37 AM

i am curious if it would create more notchiness in between gears after lowering the engagement point as you described.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zfever (Post 3602860)

6. While the 75% default AFP setting is head and shoulders better than stock and has a wider engagement window, I think I do need to tune it a little bit more to try to bring the friction point down closer to the floor and increase the engagement window slightly (clutch is engaging about halfway up from the floor and I'd like it to be a tiny bit lower).


zfever 01-15-2017 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3602905)
i am curious if it would create more notchiness in between gears after lowering the engagement point as you described.

The transmission is so notchy already, even if I press the pedal to the floor, going from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd (and sometimes even 4th to 5th) feels like a partial grind; maybe 30% of the time.

The only thing I've found that alleviates the notchiness is to double-clutch. This leads me to believe that it's a (design) problem with the synchros vs. a problem with the clutch not being fully disengaged.

So I imagine it won't make any difference if the friction point moves down a little bit (assuming the pedal is depressed past that point).

rambo 01-15-2017 03:54 PM

So I just finished the install. Everything seems to be correct except for the fact that I feel some vibration in the clutch pedal after fully released and in gear. Is it not fully disengaging? I'm hesitant to really drive it in case the clutch isn't fully disengaged I don't want to damage anything.

rambo 01-15-2017 04:30 PM

I read another persons review for the rjm pedal on the g37 forums and he stated that there is more vibration in the pedal as well. Supposedly the OEM pedal masks the vibrations.
Is this normal? I don't mind the vibration I just want to be certain I'm not damaging any of the components.


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