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Roach 05-29-2012 11:44 AM

How is manual and 7AT tranny?
 
Looking to purchase and considering both options. Looking at a base + sport. From a technical/reliability perspective any advise? Stock for stock will both have similar 1/4? Also with the AT, can I hold the revs to redline if I want? Will it auto shift for me? Thanks

Pauly 05-29-2012 11:53 AM

i got the 7at and love it. the manual mode is fun, i use it 90% of the time.
the tranny will downshift for you, but i dont think it upshifts automatically in manual mode. 1/4 mile times shouldnt be noticeably different, unless you are a beast with a stick. in fact, if you check the 1/4 mile times sticky post, the best bone stock 1/4 mile time was done in a 7at. but it all depends on the driver. i like it, its like a lazy man's manual lol

Pauly 05-29-2012 11:54 AM

lol dig the name
roach

anthonyy 05-29-2012 12:19 PM

manual is fun for everyone :driving:

search is your friend

zcar_dad 05-29-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Roach (Post 1742742)
Looking to purchase and considering both options. Looking at a base + sport. From a technical/reliability perspective any advise? Stock for stock will both have similar 1/4? Also with the AT, can I hold the revs to redline if I want? Will it auto shift for me? Thanks

In both my 05 and 07 ATs, I launched in Drive at 3000 and just let the transmission shift itself at just below redline. Worked out fine in bracket racing at Branson Z Fest, won in both cars.

ANMVQ 05-29-2012 01:48 PM

manual mode is very fun, I use it 100% of the time, The tranny will downshift " Only when you are slowing down" If you floor it is will not shift down you have to.. it will NOT up shift no matter how many times you are bounching of the REV limiter,,


To launch the car, ZCAR DAD your lucky, my car will hit 3k then drop to 2k, Launches terriable,, 60ft times where all over 2.1. :(.. I just roll out of the box and still I nail is and there is a HUGE pause before it takes off.

gr8-wrx 05-29-2012 02:02 PM

I really like the AT with the 370Z. Manual mode and paddles when I want to use them.

This is coming from someone who has always had a manual car for the past 25 years or so. Before the Z, my last car was a WRX and I would not have gotten an AT with the WRX.

Pauly 05-29-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1743025)
manual mode is very fun, I use it 100% of the time, The tranny will downshift " Only when you are slowing down" If you floor it is will not shift down you have to.. it will NOT up shift no matter how many times you are bounching of the REV limiter

+1 i forgot to mention that.

NBZ34 05-29-2012 02:48 PM

AT will upshift automatically only if you use the paddles when NOT in manual mode.

Telephone 05-29-2012 09:04 PM

I have a 6spd manual and find it a bit clunky. While I won't praise the manual transmission, I wouldn't get the automatic if I had to re-buy a 370Z.

Do a search and then test drive both.

SalA 05-30-2012 04:05 PM

It really is a preference thing....I too found the 370Z manual clunky...or I should say not as smooth as compared to a BMW tranny.

The 7AT is a better choice...imo

LakeShow 05-30-2012 04:17 PM

The 7AT I must say is pretty fun. I like how is doesn't restrict you and start shifting for you and stuff like that. Also the downshifts are pretty nice, as far as the sound and feel. I just like that I get up and going at anytime by the click of a paddle.

corbin09 05-30-2012 04:20 PM

Nissan is not very good at building transmissions. Get the AT

Guard Dad 05-30-2012 04:28 PM

The 7at is great. If you'd like an auto or see a lot of traffic the 7at is an auto that still allows you to have some fun while driving. If you just got to have a stick then get the manual. But I love the way the 7at's paddels bang off flawless rev-matched downshifts at the apex of every corner.

falconfixer 05-31-2012 07:49 AM

I always had the mindset that a sports car should have a manual transmission. Then I test drove my car and played with the paddles. It takes some getting used to but it's fun when you want it and nice to just cruise in auto when the traffic sucks.

Mr&Mrs 05-31-2012 08:20 AM

I have a 7AT and agree with all of the others I love it, and it is my first sports car without a MT.

Now if I were to do it over again I would have purchased a MT because I am to afraid of going FI with the AT and this car just does not have enough power for me.

Before people start saying the AT is fine under boost, I know, I personally am not satisfied with what I have seen running boost with it yet. I am following a couple peoples builds with AT's now and it may still be in my future, time will tell.

gbrettin 05-31-2012 11:04 AM

^ well put. The only concern I have with the 7AT is with F.I.

Super Red Z 05-31-2012 11:27 AM

I have F.I. and HFCs with my 7AT. As far as I know it is not smooth as MT transmission but I still happy with it (a lot).

Mr&Mrs 06-01-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Red Z (Post 1746650)
I have F.I. and HFCs with my 7AT. As far as I know it is not smooth as MT transmission but I still happy with it (a lot).

I think you may have confused my FI, with F.I.? Do you have a forced induction setup or Fast Intentions exhaust?

Shotta 06-01-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 1748396)
I think you may have confused my FI, with F.I.? Do you have a forced induction setup or Fast Intentions exhaust?

I got a good laugh out of this

UNKNOWN_370 06-02-2012 08:10 PM

I have an auto... saving for FI... FTW. the only way turbos are going to get better in the auto is if more people do it and tweak till its right. Tranny and all ghat. If you scared to touch the tranny. Then auto was a bad choice for your FI choice.

You gotta pay to play. :)

NickTurnon 06-02-2012 08:18 PM

Definately Get the Auto! You have BOTH!

ANMVQ 06-04-2012 03:20 PM

Having FI and and a auto I can say I'm happy, Even with the WHP I have,, The only thing is the TQ converter sux.. I have been looking at the LVL 10 one,.The one Coop is running, An FI and auto and running LOW 11's if good enough for me. :)

gbrettin 06-04-2012 03:30 PM

You know, I haven't really read about many blown 7AT... or engines on this forum. That's probably a good sign!

dpriceslc 06-05-2012 01:24 PM

I bought a 2012 Touring/Sport Package with 6-Speed Manual. I love the car and HATE the manual transmission. It IS clunky and clutch engagement is a nightmare. I absolutely wish I had gotten the 7AT, I would have been so much happier!

IDZRVIT 06-05-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dpriceslc (Post 1755222)
I bought a 2012 Touring/Sport Package with 6-Speed Manual. I love the car and HATE the manual transmission. It IS clunky and clutch engagement is a nightmare. I absolutely wish I had gotten the 7AT, I would have been so much happier!

The 6 mt is not that bad when you learn how to drive it. Mine clunks more often than not but it's no big deal. From 2-6 gear I don't have any issues. It works great. The 6 mt will probably take more punishment than an at.

Pat C. 06-07-2012 07:44 PM

Just my point of view.
 
When I bought my base+sport package car last fall, I didn't really know that much about the differences in options. That said, I'm more than happy with my 6-speed manual. Like I've seen in other posts, if you give yourself some time to get the feel of the motor and such, you'll snicker each and every time you take the car out for a spin. The "sport" option with the manual makes it even more enjoyable.
Also, if I want to change the tranny oil out I can. Pretty sure the 7AT is one of the newer sealed units that uses the new "World" synthetic....
Good luck with whatever you wind up with..
Pat

gbrettin 06-08-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat C. (Post 1759682)
When I bought my base+sport package car last fall, I didn't really know that much about the differences in options. That said, I'm more than happy with my 6-speed manual. Like I've seen in other posts, if you give yourself some time to get the feel of the motor and such, you'll snicker each and every time you take the car out for a spin. The "sport" option with the manual makes it even more enjoyable.
Also, if I want to change the tranny oil out I can. Pretty sure the 7AT is one of the newer sealed units that uses the new "World" synthetic....Good luck with whatever you wind up with..
Pat

Yeah, it is a sealed transmission.

Tribalpinoy91 06-08-2012 07:26 PM

I find myself fumbling with things way too much using my would be shifting hand( iPod, stereo, talking with my hands) I have the 7speed and i love it. The auto makes city driving much more manageable, not to mention paddle -shifters when i hit those country back roads! :D

shadoquad 06-08-2012 07:49 PM

I have the 6MT, and I love it. I understand why people buy automatics, but it's not for me.

Tribalpinoy91 06-08-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1761961)
I have the 6MT, and I love it. I understand why people buy automatics, but it's not for me.

For once someone with an MT isn't ignorant!

Anyone else find themselves constantly ignoring the convenient steering wheel controls and instead touching the stereo?! MUST..BREAK.. HABIT. :)

shadoquad 06-08-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribalpinoy91 (Post 1761977)
For once someone with an MT isn't ignorant!

I used to be one of these "All sports cars must have manuals" guys, but then I matured and learned of situations where it's simply less practical or altogether impractical. If I drove in 40 mins of stop and go traffic every day, I could see being tired of a manual. And some folks have leg or spinal injuries that make it impossible to drive auto. And some people just plain prefer automatics. I'm not gonna hate. As long as there are manuals available for those who want them :tup:

IDZRVIT 06-09-2012 09:44 AM

Shift kits for making very fast shifts in an auto have been around since the muscle car era. Now it's just standard production on sports cars with autos. So some guys like fast shifting autos and some like myself like to have more control and prefer the manual. I don't see why anyone should hate on either side - it's just personal preference.

djrelic 06-19-2012 04:31 PM

I just bought a certified 370z 6MT touring in black few weeks ago.
I know how to drive manual but never drove manual as a daily driver.
Stalled it about 2x going on the test drive, stalled it about 2x heading home after leaving the dealership. Just nerves really, getting to excited trying not to stall it will make you stall it.

It's just the clutch engagement is at near the top. I believe the manual is smooth after you are going from 2nd gear and on. The car is very light and has gobs of torque most hills I take them at 3rd or 4th gear depending on my momentium.

When Iam in traffic I will let the clutch out until I feel it's first bit, let go of the brake, no gas, and just let the car creep with just the clutch when I need to inch up. After the bit and move its a small delay for the energy to transfer from the engine through the clutch into the tranny and then into the drivetrain to the wheels. Also with the first gear being the biggest gear to turn.

I do have to admit when I first got the car, I was scared to drive it cause I didnt want to roll into anyone. You just drive it more and more and you will become confident in your MT driving skills. I love it now, I will love it even more when I get that clutch helper spring installed to make me feel the engagement better.

Telephone 06-19-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribalpinoy91 (Post 1761977)
For once someone with an MT isn't ignorant!

Anyone else find themselves constantly ignoring the convenient steering wheel controls and instead touching the stereo?! MUST..BREAK.. HABIT. :)

Why? Do you always drive with BOTH hands on the wheel?

When I'm shifting to or from 1st, 3rd, or 5th gear, my finger tips are a mere two inches from the stereo controls. It's perfect. I don't need to look at the stereo to make suddle changes to audio. Other times I do use the steering wheel controls, but I find the volume button to be out of place for my left thumb.

jetguy 06-20-2012 12:29 PM

i would not buy the 370z with the 6mt. the engagement is really weird.

wstar 06-20-2012 12:38 PM

Radio? Our cars have radios? :p (Mine's long gone).

Related to the hand-position stuff though, I do wish someone would release a simple wiring harness to switch the Up/Down direction on the 7AT's shifter, it's backwards from how it should be. Someone linked an upcoming Mine's product, but no release yet AFAIK and probably $500 for a short piece of wire knowing Mine's.

Also some simple mechanical lockout to help keep it over in the M-mode slot (it's really easy to accidentally push the stick back over to neutral when pushing in the forward direction).

DEpointfive0 06-20-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1781683)
Radio? Our cars have radios? :p (Mine's long gone).

Related to the hand-position stuff though, I do wish someone would release a simple wiring harness to switch the Up/Down direction on the 7AT's shifter, it's backwards from how it should be. Someone linked an upcoming Mine's product, but no release yet AFAIK and probably $500 for a short piece of wire knowing Mine's.

Also some simple mechanical lockout to help keep it over in the M-mode slot (it's really easy to accidentally push the stick back over to neutral when pushing in the forward direction).

LIAR!!! Lol, if you drive a sequential gearboxed car, yeah, I guess you're right, BUY a BMW:tiphat:

But I think logically the way it is now feels more correct for most people...
When I get into my BMW I want to kill someone... It feels assbackwards every time

wstar 06-20-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 1781827)
LIAR!!! Lol, if you drive a sequential gearboxed car, yeah, I guess you're right, BUY a BMW:tiphat:

But I think logically the way it is now feels more correct for most people...
When I get into my BMW I want to kill someone... It feels assbackwards every time

That's what I mean, it should be laid out the way a sequential is. There's sound logic behind it. When you're braking and downshifting, your body/arm is being pushed forward naturally, and when you're accelerating and upshifting, the opposite. So having foward be downshift and back be upshift keeps the shifter movement in sync with the natural forces on your body.

Magic Bus 06-20-2012 08:52 PM

A lot of you mention that the clutch engagement for the Z is high. Can you please reference which cars you are comparing it too?

Before making my decision to purchase the 2013 Z, I test drove a Mustang GT, Corvette LT3, Mazdaspeed 3, BMW M3 and Subaru BRZ all 2012 models with manuals. They all engaged fairly high to me, the 370Z was not out of the norm in this regards. The only exception to me was the Mazdaspeed 3, which to me engaged the highest.


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