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BGTV8 10-19-2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oldskoolchuk (Post 3966149)
Yes, I brought this subject up in Boosted VQs. It's hard for me.to believe that there isn't a kit available for these transmissions considering the way the synchros fail with boosted applications. I've seen quite a few posts about trans problems over the last number of months that I've been a part of the community. I figured that if I encouraged discussion there too, perhaps it would get some kind of response from someone who had either built a stronger solution, or could point me in the right direction for upgrade kits, or perhaps at least someone I could shop mine to for some modifications since mine is still shifting well and not grinding yet. I've owned 3 of these now, one of which had a new trans put in under warranty. Both the others shifted so much faster than mine is now. Neither of those were boosted though. I didn't warranty this one because an adjuster.would tell me to **** right off as soon as they looked under the car or under the hood. I still don't like the idea of buying a whole new trans to fix a few parts that are wearing... but it seems like it's our only recourse.

The thing is there's an opportunity for someone to make a lot of money making a durable trans or by putting together an upgrade kit for this car... people love boosting them, tracking them, and drifting them. If I was a trained transmission mechanic I'd jump at a chance to start up a company. I really don't think success is "pie in the sky" on this. There is a market for this... it's just waiting for someone to jump on it.

There are solutions, it is just that they are expensive.

The cost to open the trans to replace parts when aligned o the cost of a replacement OEM unit does not add up.

YGWYPF

2011 Nismo#91 10-19-2020 07:59 AM

When I toasted my 5th gear synchro I looked into some of these upgrades to the transmission. Essentially it was working out to 2-2.5 times the cost of a new transmission. For a boosted Z which frequents a drag strip this might be viable, but how many of those are out there? Based on the people here there are very few mentions of broken transmission even for the boosted group.

Spooler 10-19-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3966236)
When I toasted my 5th gear synchro I looked into some of these upgrades to the transmission. Essentially it was working out to 2-2.5 times the cost of a new transmission. For a boosted Z which frequents a drag strip this might be viable, but how many of those are out there? Based on the people here there are very few mentions of broken transmission even for the boosted group.

LOL, price a sequential. 25k plus install and custom driveshaft.

BGTV8 10-19-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3966245)
LOL, price a sequential. 25k plus install and custom driveshaft.

Not quite so squeezy. Options

https://www.hgtprecision.com/contact/

US dealers here: https://www.hgtprecision.com/dealers/usa/

https://www.ttindustries.com/car-gearboxes/ TTi GTO to 750ft/lbs or TTi XHD GTO to 1000ft/lbs (but only 5 speed)

The price is around NZ$14K which will be about 2/3rd in USD

My 3.5" CrMo tail-shaft cost A$1800 with hi-capacity yokes

They can also be found on the motorsport sales websites:

https://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/id/20474/latest/1

Rusty 10-19-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3966337)
Not quite so squeezy. Options

https://www.hgtprecision.com/contact/

US dealers here: https://www.hgtprecision.com/dealers/usa/

https://www.ttindustries.com/car-gearboxes/ TTi GTO to 750ft/lbs or TTi XHD GTO to 1000ft/lbs (but only 5 speed)

The price is around NZ$14K which will be about 2/3rd in USD

My 3.5" CrMo tail-shaft cost A$1800 with hi-capacity yokes

They can also be found on the motorsport sales websites:

https://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/id/20474/latest/1

:yum:

oldskoolchuk 10-20-2020 12:04 AM

I've owned 3 370Z's now, and 2 had synchro issues, the other 2 I had were NA. it seems a boosted Z is going to tear up synchros, it's just a matter of time... and faster than NA. I appreciate that someone posted links on options, because the way I see it, I'm never selling this car... so I should look into a stronger trans before I've replaced multiple transmissions and regret not doing it to begin with.

JARblue 10-20-2020 08:00 AM

Maybe this would help? Not MT unfortunately, though...

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...needs-dct.html

AlWakRa 11-02-2020 06:12 PM

I read the whole thread without any idea on where or how to order the syncros :icon14: I know it is old post but still active, in that case, anybody knows what is the part numbers to buy new syncros for syncrev transmissions?

JARblue 11-03-2020 09:09 AM

https://conceptzperformance.com/items.php?p=234

Part numbers for the 370Z synchros
Reverse gear synchro: 32631-CD000
1st gear synchro: 32620-CD401
2nd gear synchro: 32620-CD008
3rd gear synchro: 32620-CD405
4th gear synchro: 32620-CD016
5th-6th gear synchro: 32604-5X00A

Elmo370z 11-03-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3969028)
I read the whole thread without any idea on where or how to order the syncros :icon14: I know it is old post but still active, in that case, anybody knows what is the part numbers to buy new syncros for syncrev transmissions?

Shep will build you a transmission

Elmo370z 11-03-2020 11:23 AM

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I lied haha

AlWakRa 11-03-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3969139)
https://conceptzperformance.com/items.php?p=234

Part numbers for the 370Z synchros
Reverse gear synchro: 32631-CD000
1st gear synchro: 32620-CD401
2nd gear synchro: 32620-CD008
3rd gear synchro: 32620-CD405
4th gear synchro: 32620-CD016
5th-6th gear synchro: 32604-5X00A

Finally, thanks a lot Jar.


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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3969157)
Shep will build you a transmission

Looks like he doesn't, and if he does, the shipping cost will be fantastic :rolleyes:

Spooler 11-03-2020 11:41 PM

LOL, 3rd gear is the hardest pulling gear for most cars. This guy has broken several.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOjb8vRahgs

redondoaveb 11-04-2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3969269)
LOL, 3rd gear is the hardest pulling gear for most cars. This guy has broken several.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOjb8vRahgs

Most of his races are roll races and he flat foot shifts 3rd and 4th.

Spooler 11-04-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3969275)
Most of his races are roll races and he flat foot shifts 3rd and 4th.

That would be why he keeps ripping apart 3rd if he flat foot shifts.

Elmo370z 11-04-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3969275)
Most of his races are roll races and he flat foot shifts 3rd and 4th.

Dude is a idiot

redondoaveb 11-04-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3969338)
Dude is a idiot

Couldn't agree more

redondoaveb 11-08-2020 12:24 PM

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On Facebook this morning

Rusty 11-08-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3969997)
On Facebook this morning

Finally someone is stepping up. :tup:

Rusty 11-08-2020 01:09 PM

I hope he posts something on the forum. As some of us ain't on facecrap.

Spooler 11-08-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3970005)
I hope he posts something on the forum. As some of us ain't on facecrap.

I doubt it. It is much easier to post somewhere that you have a following of yes people. We aren't that way here. We analyze everything.

Elmo370z 11-09-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3969997)
On Facebook this morning

Funny how a non fuel return 370z running wastegate pressure on oem suspenion is cutting faster 60’s and running just about the same times but slow mph as that fully race prepped soho car. Billet input shaft, I don’t think or cares need them right yet.

Spooler 11-10-2020 09:00 AM

Made a phone call. Maybe SOHO will post when they are ready.

AlWakRa 11-10-2020 02:35 PM

So maybe I should wait for Soho before going ahead with buying new syncros, hope it is in final stages.

Spooler 11-10-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3970348)
So maybe I should wait for Soho before going ahead with buying new syncros, hope it is in final stages.

They said next year sometime.

Elmo370z 11-10-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3970348)
So maybe I should wait for Soho before going ahead with buying new syncros, hope it is in final stages.

I emailed the guy who built these transmission, no response.

Spooler 11-11-2020 09:47 PM

Just hope that said possible transmission is at a reasonable price. If it is, they will sell many. If not, they will not.

AyoMykey 11-22-2020 06:31 PM

just here for a sub.

Elmo370z 12-21-2020 08:48 PM

Contact Us - TEAM RIP

Going to reach out tomorrow and see what they can do, they are big in the time attack scene

Elmo370z 12-22-2020 03:52 PM

They have one in stock. Not for 1000whp guys. But it’s built to handle the stresses of boosted cars on the trakc

beauz 12-22-2020 05:07 PM

I broke my 5th gear synchro @ 80k kms on track. Ended up just buying a new box. Interesting that some people were having problems with redline mt85. Isnt it supposed to be specifically for our box?

Spooler 12-22-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by beauz (Post 3978112)
I broke my 5th gear synchro @ 80k kms on track. Ended up just buying a new box. Interesting that some people were having problems with redline mt85. Isnt it supposed to be specifically for our box?

Noop, The problem happened years ago back in the 80's. Folks were putting 80w in the trannies. They were complaining about them being hard to shift. Come to find out when the tranny fluid weight was converted from Metric to English they were actually supposed to have 75w. Speed that up to the present time they are supposed to have 75w90 GL4. The problem with 85w is it makes the tranny tuff to shift when it get's in the 40's. You can mess up a syncro if you shift it wrong cold. This info has been known for years and people still put the wrong fluid in it.

Z34Hakeem_ 12-30-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3978135)
Noop, The problem happened years ago back in the 80's. Folks were putting 80w in the trannies. They were complaining about them being hard to shift. Come to find out when the tranny fluid weight was converted from Metric to English they were actually supposed to have 75w. Speed that up to the present time they are supposed to have 75w90 GL4. The problem with 85w is it makes the tranny tuff to shift when it get's in the 40's. You can mess up a syncro if you shift it wrong cold. This info has been known for years and people still put the wrong fluid in it.

This is exactly what I needed to hear. Appreciate the info!.

Spooler 01-10-2021 09:51 PM

I emailed PPG about the possibility of them building an upgraded transmission. They said they checked into it and didn't have enough interest to justify the cost. I guess we have way too many broke dicks with 350z's and 370z's that don't want to pay the price.

Spooler 01-10-2021 10:00 PM

I take that back. They are interested and would need 5 people to commit. The question is Dog engagement or heavy duty syncro's? Haven't asked about a sequential gearset yet.

redondoaveb 01-10-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980979)
I take that back. They are interested and would need 5 people to commit. The question is Dog engagement or heavy duty syncro's? Haven't asked about a sequential gearset yet.

What about Shep? I wonder if they'd be interested.

Spooler 01-10-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3980980)
What about Shep? I wonder if they'd be interested.

This is what PPG does. They make sequential gear sets for the R32,R33, R34 GTR.

Spooler 01-10-2021 10:16 PM

I need 5 people. We need to decide between dog box or heavy duty syncro's.

Elmo370z 01-10-2021 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3980980)
What about Shep? I wonder if they'd be interested.

He said nope.

Spooler 01-10-2021 10:51 PM

I replied back Heavy Duty Syncro for the masses. Most folks will not want Dog engagement. I beat they could do a PPG sequential gear set but the cost might be way over what most folks can afford. I will sit back and wait for another reply. I did ask for a billet input shaft, stronger 3rd gear, and heavy duty synchro's.


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