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ZKindaGuy 09-07-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 188696)
ok the water pump is driven by the timing set(chains)

Why not make a pulley for the supercharger kit that overspins the blower to work with the underdriven crank?

And the overspinning of the blower would just generate a ton of additional heat on top of what a blower would generate without the overspin. So why make a pulley to overspin the blower?

1slow370 09-08-2009 04:54 AM

I'm sorry if you don't understand these things but if the crank is putting out 20% less belt speed and you install a 20% overdriven pulley on a supercharger they cancel out and it like having stock pulley only you gain the 5hp from slowing down the accessories. More heat? the blower won't be turning even 1rpm faster than would be with stock pulleys. Its called not wasting a $250 underdrive pulley. You must be a turbo guy.

Besides that they use a smaller pulley to go up in stages with the power so along with more heat there's a lot more air but that's irrelavent to my earlier post.

ZKindaGuy 09-09-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 189649)
I'm sorry if you don't understand these things but if the crank is putting out 20% less belt speed and you install a 20% overdriven pulley on a supercharger they cancel out and it like having stock pulley only you gain the 5hp from slowing down the accessories. More heat? the blower won't be turning even 1rpm faster than would be with stock pulleys. Its called not wasting a $250 underdrive pulley. You must be a turbo guy.

Besides that they use a smaller pulley to go up in stages with the power so along with more heat there's a lot more air but that's irrelavent to my earlier post.

I didn't read the post thoroughly enough to put it together that one pulley percentage would cancel out the other. All I did was immediately zero in on the "overspin the blower" text. Yes that is my bad for not reading the entire context of the message but but that is certainly no reason to prefix yopur answer with a degrading barb. And don't even try to say that wasn't your intention because I just won't buy it.

As someone once posted here previously that hiding anonimously behind a computer screen certainly makes some folks awfully brave.....and just plain rude :shakes head:

1slow370 09-15-2009 02:56 AM

At least I read your post before I corrected you so as to make sure there wasn't a misunderstanding on my part that would put me at fault. Suck it up guy you incorrectly corrected me and got flammed for it. Can I have my info changed from base member to official forum D*ck?

kannibul 09-15-2009 03:55 PM

Why flame...

ZKindaGuy 04-08-2010 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 75576)
Review & Pics:

My friend and I installed the Stillen Underdrive Pulley this past Friday. The installation wasn't too bad overall. It took a total of about one hour, but that includes the time taken to get the car up on jack stands, remove the undertray, etc. The hardest part of the installation was getting the stock pulley off, because they torque the bolt from the factory really, really tight. My mechanic had to hold the starter in place with a pry bar while I loosened the stock pulley bolt with a torque wrench, and it took a lot of effort/strength to loosen that thing. It would have been easier if the car was on a lift, because I would've been able to use my body weight to pull down on the wrench. Doing it while laying on the ground though, I had to rely on muscle alone.



Driving Impressions:

My butt dyno hasn't noticed any huge gain per se. What is most noticeable to me, however, is that responsiveness has improved, especially off the line. Now, keep in mind that my Z is a 6MT. You know how when you launch off the line there's like a sort of momentary 'dead spot' or 'lag' when you initially engage the throttle and clutch? Well, this is where I notice the most change. That dead spot is virtually gone. My launches feel much more immediate now. The light goes green, I step on the gas and let the clutch out and BAM!! It's on! And I'm not even talking about hard launches. Just with regular around town type of driving, the responsiveness off the line is just more clean and crisp, if that makes any sense.

Also, you know how if you're driving with the AC off and then turn it on, you can actually feel the load the AC is putting on the engine? Like you can feel a bit of power being sucked away. Well, that feeling is noticeably reduced. It's not gone entirely, but it is reduced to a very significant degree.

Dyno:

Okay, enough with the butt dyno. Here's the real thing. I went and put my car back on a DynoJet this morning to see if there are any measurable gains from this thing.

So peak HP goes up from 324.61whp to 330.23whp (+5.62). Peak torque also went up slightly, but I'd say that the peak torque increase is negligible. What is more significant, torque-wise, is the positive effect this has had on the curve. Compare the old and new torque curves carefully. It looks like I've gained back some of the low-end torque that I lost when I installed the headers. (This would be consistent with my perception of sharper response off the line.) Also, if you look at the top-end, it looks like the torque isn't dropping off as sharply as before! I'm keeping it up longer!!! ;)

As for horsepower, I don't think a gain of 5.62 is half-bad, considering that I've already got the full intake and exhaust mods (i.e., my returns should be diminishing big time by now). All in all, I'm pleased with the results.

Don't forget to rep if you found this informative/useful! ;)

UD pullies primarily shift the power range UP to the top end of the RPM scale. You aren't going to feel anything until you get into your power gear and pass into the upper upper RPM range. All of a sudden you will feel like the car is getting a small "push" from behind. It's quite SOTP noticeable and will be reflected in your dyno's HP numbers in that upper RPM range.

Juice14 08-09-2012 04:22 PM

any long term thoughts on this pulley? vibrations, etc?

SgtGoldy 12-13-2012 11:31 AM

Thanks to your review I just bought mine. So thanks semtex!!! Awesome as always man! I'm just curious what the difference will be between this and the G37s :confused:

Wonka2581 09-10-2013 02:39 PM

Hmm...

Arrvaxx 09-10-2013 03:35 PM

You were kind enough to dyno so I thought I could at least confirm or deny if your 'perception' was accurate.

http://www.the370z.com/members/arrva...ive-pulley.jpg

SgtGoldy 09-10-2013 03:40 PM

**** the one I bought I never installed... Who wants to buy it lol.

Wonka2581 09-11-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 2481215)
**** the one I bought I never installed... Who wants to buy it lol.

Lmao I got one laying around too with a new belt lol

ortiz73ca 11-23-2014 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 2481215)
**** the one I bought I never installed... Who wants to buy it lol.

Is it an UD pulley? How much?

SgtGoldy 11-24-2014 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ortiz73ca (Post 3037703)
Is it an UD pulley? How much?

Dang brotha.... kinda late to the party...

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I posted that on 09-10-2013, 01:40 PM :wtf2:

Dat Thread Resurrection Tho


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