Issues with my Z HELP!

Brian370 · 07-26-2011, 03:25 PM

Ok so here is my story in a nut shell.

I have a 2009 370Z Sport/Touring MT

I was leaving work last monday and when shifting into second my Z died on me. Engine cut off, wouldnt start back up, just wouldnt turn over. Got it towed to the Nissan dealership where they informed me that I needed a new cam sensor and crank sensor and it would be covered under the warranty. No big deal, i wait a day, they install it. After the sensors are installed they call me to tell me that the timing isnt right in the engine and they cant figure out why. They told me that they would have to take the engine apart to find the issue in the timing, and it would be 10-12 hours worth of labor. They also informed me that due to my "Extensive modding" that it may not be covered under warranty and ill be responsible for the labor hours if they find that the problem was caused by aftermarket parts.

Now the funny part, my "extensive" mods consists of Stillen Gen 3 Bolt on intakes, A stillen Catback Exhaust, and an oilcooler.

What do you guys think? Could any of these mods cause a timing issue in the engine? It doesnt really make much sense to me, but im no expert.

Oh, and there was no warning before the engine cut off while driving. No knocking in the engine, no check or service engine lights, nothing.

Thanks guys

Brian

ZCarMan · 07-26-2011, 03:33 PM

Brian, sorry to hear of the problem with your Z. Which Nissan Dealership did you take it to?

Brian370 · 07-26-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

Brian, sorry to hear of the problem with your Z. Which Nissan Dealership did you take it to? I'm very interested in this turns out.

Hey Jon!

I took it to Sheehy nissan in glen burnie. Ive had good service with them before, and they have very good reviews on several review sites.

Yeah man, im totally bummed, they at least gave me an altima to drive around till they figure out what the problem is.

moto_italia · 07-26-2011, 03:47 PM

If a car under warranty has been modified, it's in a dealer's best interest to disclose the fact that liability could be thrust upon the car owner if the needed repair was caused by the modification. The dealer needs to communicate this so that if Nissan U.S.A. refuses to pay them to do the warranty work, they have made the car owner aware of the fact that it could be an owner-pay repair ticket. Standard dealer speak.

ZCarMan · 07-27-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian370

Hey Jon!

I took it to Sheehy nissan in glen burnie. Ive had good service with them before, and they have very good reviews on several review sites.

Yeah man, im totally bummed, they at least gave me an altima to drive around till they figure out what the problem is.

I would take it to another Nissan service department (not Sheehy) and have them look at it for a second opinion on what the cause is.

jbenington86 · 07-27-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

I would take it to another Nissan service department (not Sheehy) and have them look at it for a second opinion on what the cause is.

I wouldn't go to Herb Gordon Nissan either.... so what good dealers are in MD that don't try and bend you over and rape you? I haven't found one yet....

ResIpsa · 07-29-2011, 06:14 AM

The simple answer to your problem is that your motor is (was) burning oil. This is a very common problem with these VQ engines. In fact, on my last G35 I was on my third motor. All of them burned more than a quart every 1000 miles.

Even my current 370Z burns about a quart every 1,000 miles.

The dealer knows this but is trying to play ignorant.

Check out my post I wrote on August 6, 2006 on G35 Driver Everyone: Check Your Oil! - G35Driver.

It is now has 1,621 replies and 161,179 views!

Kirkster · 08-01-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbenington86

I wouldn't go to Herb Gordon Nissan either.... so what good dealers are in MD that don't try and bend you over and rape you? I haven't found one yet....

Tischer in Laurel has been pretty fair with me...

K

Glad to hear that you are getting a good response from Nissan USA...

ChrisSlicks · 07-26-2011, 03:36 PM

Sounds like the timing gear may have slipped a tooth somehow? Don't see how any of your mods could be even hypothetically blamed for the failure, it's not like you bolted a supercharger on there.

neveucd · 07-26-2011, 03:48 PM

They are full of crap, extensive modding hahah right...the stealership will find any way they can to get out of warranty claims. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure none of your mods could cause those problems. Good Luck man. Research everything and go in there and prove them wrong.

christian370z · 07-26-2011, 09:47 PM

You have nothing to worry about with the warranty, it is physically impossible for your intake or cat-back to even remotely mess with timing. Good luck with everything and keep us updated!

Trips · 07-26-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

You have nothing to worry about with the warranty, it is physically impossible for your intake or cat-back to even remotely mess with timing. Good luck with everything and keep us updated!

Cmike2780 · 07-26-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

You have nothing to worry about with the warranty, it is physically impossible for your intake or cat-back to even remotely mess with timing. Good luck with everything and keep us updated!

Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act says they have to prove a particular part caused the malfunction. This is BS if they try to put this all on you and I would ask Stillen to help you out if they do.

perlz · 07-26-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act says they have to prove a particular part caused the malfunction. This is BS if they try to put this all on you and I would ask Stillen to help you out if they do.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-26-2011, 10:21 PM

That sucks dude! When I talked to the guys at Sheehy Nissan they told me I would be ok with intakes and exhaust as long as they don't directly cause a problem. You could always try taking off the mods and then having it towed to a different dealership if things start looking bad.

07-26-2011, 03:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brian370 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Odenton, MD Posts: 194 Drives: 09 370Z TouringSport Rep Power: 15	Issues with my Z HELP! Ok so here is my story in a nut shell. I have a 2009 370Z Sport/Touring MT I was leaving work last monday and when shifting into second my Z died on me. Engine cut off, wouldnt start back up, just wouldnt turn over. Got it towed to the Nissan dealership where they informed me that I needed a new cam sensor and crank sensor and it would be covered under the warranty. No big deal, i wait a day, they install it. After the sensors are installed they call me to tell me that the timing isnt right in the engine and they cant figure out why. They told me that they would have to take the engine apart to find the issue in the timing, and it would be 10-12 hours worth of labor. They also informed me that due to my "Extensive modding" that it may not be covered under warranty and ill be responsible for the labor hours if they find that the problem was caused by aftermarket parts. Now the funny part, my "extensive" mods consists of Stillen Gen 3 Bolt on intakes, A stillen Catback Exhaust, and an oilcooler. What do you guys think? Could any of these mods cause a timing issue in the engine? It doesnt really make much sense to me, but im no expert. Oh, and there was no warning before the engine cut off while driving. No knocking in the engine, no check or service engine lights, nothing. Thanks guys Brian __________________ 2009 Pearl White 370Z Touring Sport MT-Stillen G3 CAI's-Stillen CBE-Stillen Oil Cooler-Motordyne M370 Intake Manifold-BC Racing Coilovers-Hotchkiss Swaybars-Duckbill Spoiler-CF vinyl Roof-Custom Painted Headlight Housings-Uprev Tune-CF fangs-CF License Plate area

07-26-2011, 03:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 26	Brian, sorry to hear of the problem with your Z. Which Nissan Dealership did you take it to? __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes Last edited by ZCarMan; 07-26-2011 at 03:36 PM.

07-26-2011, 03:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
moto_italia Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 131 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 14	If a car under warranty has been modified, it's in a dealer's best interest to disclose the fact that liability could be thrust upon the car owner if the needed repair was caused by the modification. The dealer needs to communicate this so that if Nissan U.S.A. refuses to pay them to do the warranty work, they have made the car owner aware of the fact that it could be an owner-pay repair ticket. Standard dealer speak. __________________ Kevin Borla CBE + Z1 Post-MAF Tubes + AFE Dropins + Llumar CTX35

07-29-2011, 06:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 339	Your were burning oil The simple answer to your problem is that your motor is (was) burning oil. This is a very common problem with these VQ engines. In fact, on my last G35 I was on my third motor. All of them burned more than a quart every 1000 miles. Even my current 370Z burns about a quart every 1,000 miles. The dealer knows this but is trying to play ignorant. Check out my post I wrote on August 6, 2006 on G35 Driver Everyone: Check Your Oil! - G35Driver. It is now has 1,621 replies and 161,179 views! __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

07-26-2011, 03:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	Sounds like the timing gear may have slipped a tooth somehow? Don't see how any of your mods could be even hypothetically blamed for the failure, it's not like you bolted a supercharger on there. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-26-2011, 03:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
neveucd Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, TX. Age: 41 Posts: 457 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z TT Rep Power: 16	They are full of crap, extensive modding hahah right...the stealership will find any way they can to get out of warranty claims. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure none of your mods could cause those problems. Good Luck man. Research everything and go in there and prove them wrong. __________________ GTM Stg. 2 TT\|\|F.I. CF 18" Res. CBE\|\|GTM 3" Downpipe \|\|Injen Cold Water Intakes\|\|UpRev\|\|Work Gnosis GS2\|\|Hankook\|\|Tein Monoflex\|\|Hawk\|\|Seibon\|\|Aero Jacket\|\|

07-26-2011, 09:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	You have nothing to worry about with the warranty, it is physically impossible for your intake or cat-back to even remotely mess with timing. Good luck with everything and keep us updated! __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

07-26-2011, 10:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	That sucks dude! When I talked to the guys at Sheehy Nissan they told me I would be ok with intakes and exhaust as long as they don't directly cause a problem. You could always try taking off the mods and then having it towed to a different dealership if things start looking bad. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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