[QUOTE=pyrrhus17;1288390]"The is suppose to be a poor mans sports car. A loaded Auto convert runs close to 50K thats not cheap, so could you imagine if they offered a TT or SC version. Anyone who bought this car thinking they where going to be a stop light champ was sadly mistaken and did not do there reasearch before buying. If you wanted to be the fastest guy around in a straight line you shoudl have bought a Vette or the 5.0"

Thats my point the car is not cheap nor is it a sports car , cheap like a 240sx I can go with or 50k and I can go around the track more than twice .I dont care about drag speed. I care about handling and speed and the TT 300z weren't that expensive back in the day (research done ) .the fact that you have to spend 2k to get your car in track shape is ******** ,again (oilcooler , brake venting , radiator, ) .I love the car really , but NISSAN could have at least vented the brakes and given us a oilcooler WTF

RED ZED is a perfect example of the type of Z owner I am talking about ,Nissan is missing something here .Him and evryone like HIM . I am not into driving a moder fricking MG or Triumph Tr6 call myself a sports car and be slower than a toyota corolla . Reasearch done ! This car should be contender and it doesn't feel like it is . P.S. No one tracks there cars because A. it overheats ,Not fun . B they buy a 944 to track which is more fun.[/QUOTE]


/\:icon14: our car has already seen track days and will see many many more. Z just needs and oil cooler and brake pads/fluid to track. As you get more serious, you can add in some more things, but this is all the same stuff you'll be adding to just about any car as you start tracking it, (esp for any car in the Z's price range).

Oh, and for an n/a Z, radiator upgrade isn't necessary.

^^ very much agree. Of course an older car would be less expensive to track than a newer car. Less than $1k to get it track ready is pretty "affordable" for people who would track a 370. Besides, you should only track what you can afford to crash. The Z may no longer be the fastest in this range, but it's far from slow. There's more to it than it's ability to be track worthy. Have seen what some Mazeratti's run in the quarter, flawed, but it hardly means in any less of a sports car.

I've read a few articles... the Z is comparable and even beats the BMW 135i stock for stock in many areas... it also ran pretty comparable numbers to the Cayman S, though it doesn't have as much power as the Z it's 250 lbs lighter.

My beef here is the (potential) warranty issues created by the oil cooler.

You can go with the Nismo cooler and dealership install it.

still not warrantied if the cooler fails.

The oil cooler?
The car is still under warranty even with the oil cooler, the Nismo cooler has a separate limited warranty.

I would imagine that would depend on the dealer. Some are "mod friendly".... others, not so much.

They're R Nissan parts, so their use is not warrantied officially. I haven't seen anyone have success in getting them warrantied (in writing).

I dont understand? The Z is as fast or faster then 135i, 335i, Evo, STI/WRX, New Camaro, RX8. But it had to be knocked down to a lower class? What cars was it competing with? Enzos, Lambos, ZR1 Vettes????

Warranty is only effected if it was shown to cause damage/malfunction and even then only applies to the part directly related to cause said damage/malfunction. Applied correctly, an oil cooler shouldn't cause any problems. I have yet to see anyone on this forum denied warranty work because of an oil cooler. A few have come close, but in the end it was shown not to be the cause. I would have figured you of all people would know a thing or two about the Magnuson-Moss warranty act.

I don't get that either. My old RX-8 was far slower the 370. Maybe the guys driving the Z had fat chicks in the passenger seat.

No, it is several classes down from even base vettes. It cannot compete with the EVO/STI etc. Not sure why that is so hard for you to understand.


Magnuson-Moss is the most overstated act by people that have never made a warranty claim on a modded car.

Besides, my worry is issues caused by the cooler. A whole ton of people have blown fittings--it happens from time to time.

He's talking about SCCA classes for autox, you can see the list here:

http://www.scca.org/documents/Solo_R...solo_rules.pdf


agreed, I really hate having to add something like an oil cooler.

Well, on this issue, we agree. However, if you have a good dealer, (i know, hard to find but they're out there), then that does lower this particular risk somewhat.

I will be the first to say that on the Nismo esp and also the sport pkg Zs, an oil cooler should have at least been an optional "accessory" like the Nismo brake pads are. Still, not something that most folks won't need to add to any other car that sees hard track time and then you'd be in the same boat warrantee wise.

Evo X's with the DCT (or whatever they call their dual clutch manual) have trans overheating issues on track I've read and require a trans cooler for serious track use, that's going to be a warrantee nightmare if anything ever went wrong as well.

In this price bracket, there are going to be compromises, or you buy a higher class of car used for the same as a new Z, evo etc and hopefully it's going to last you and not have been beat to sh!t by the last owner.

SST... and yes, they have a lot of failures with their autos when getting near or a little over 400 whp.