I've never actually owned a 12 second car.

I have owned a couple of cars that make 12 second cars look laughably slow. I've broken into the 9s on two different platforms.

I owned a 12 sec speed6 and owned a 04 kaw 636 ( 10 sec bike ) so for me no car really feels fast unless your like red and have owned cars that go 9s Haha

As methodical said though , overall drivability I have a blast with this car ! To kno it can go 12s bolted is enough for me .. for now ! Muhah

Well, I congratulate you on that, but for most of us who don't live our lives a quarter of a mile at a time, low 12's should be fine.

We're talking cars... not bikes, and I guess this issue is getting off topic. Yes, I am happy with the engine... I think for an NA V6 and being the fastest stock Z in it's history, it's a nice set-up... if others aren't happy with theirs... they should sell it... pretty simple IMHO.

It's not about et's, I agree. Just posted in response to your challenge.

Most of us don't even need 12 second cars. For pure driving pleasure, it's about balance rather than power...

I have no beef with the z power levels, i am frustrated by the fact that it doesnt know what it is. A smoother engine in a car with better balance would be perfect, or an engine with more potential in the current layout would be cool too. As it is, balance is off for track, and you can't crank enough power out to make it a burner. It does look effing sexy tho

Ok, well i'll agree there. I feel like the car is pretty balanced myself... granted I haven't had it on a track so I can't say completely. Another engine option would have always been a nice choice... but I think it just all came down to cost, you have to cut some here and there so you can add in other areas.

I think of my Evo's... I loved them! They were so much fun, they would take a beating and just kept on going... but for a 30k+ car to have an interior SOOO incredibly cheap was just amazing to me... when you buy an Evo you are paying for the drivetrain suspension and brakes... you sure aren't paying for comfort. Then I look at the GTI that has a top notch interior... though I don't get the plaid seats? Maybe some really like it. Either way though it's an excellent all around car.

The Z is a step above that... stock for stock it will hang with a new Evo or STI. No, it doesn't have the modding ability, but here again... I got the Z purposely because the only way to get huge power was to go F.I. in which you're talking at least 5k... which I knew I wouldn't spend because i'm getting married and I need the money. I can afford smaller mods here and there and once all of the NA bolt on's are on... that will be enough for me and they are all easy to take off, put back to stock and sell, though I don't plan on getting rid of this car for a lonnnng time.

Well I think your going to be closer to 1k without a radiator pads are over 100 buck so is fluid , Where I live in the summer its above 85 closer to 90 f hence the radiator and I want to track at least once a month in the summer . Brakes are also a must they at least need to be vented .my point about the 240 was that is was cheap and takes mods better than the 370z Thats it . I love the car really I just wish it wasn't driving in town watching my oil temp rise to 240f on a regular basis .

Coming from AWD, it makes sense that the z feels balanced. Give it time.


It's a mistake to say the z hangs with stock sti's and Evo's though...there's a reason the z got dropped to c stock.

Who told you a radiator is needed?
We have guys running in Texas the past few weeks with stock radiator in 105+ temps with no problem. Look around you can get your fluid & pads for around 100 bucks, 150-200 if you just buy the first link that pops up.

The 240 was cheap because it was a cheap car from factory. Also, are you talking about the KA motor? It is decent at best, one of the main reasons engine swaps from day 1 were so common with that car.

Agreed. Coolant temps are pretty well controlled unless you seriously block airflow.

I prefer putting a metal plate over it then tracking, I like to challenge myself and ruin the car. :rolleyes:

A lot of the people that install bigger oil coolers have created airflow issues.

What do you mean its a mistake? The 370 would be right next to both of those cars if not beat them stock for stock.

Right, that's why they moved the z to c stock:rolleyes:

What is "c stock"