Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

JARblue · 08-15-2014, 06:01 PM

If you got it part way out, can you get some vice grips on there and leverage it out the rest of the way?

Ensaner · 08-15-2014, 06:17 PM

Is there one or two c clips? And I've tried that, seems so stuck!

smoothtransit · 12-25-2014, 05:49 PM

Sorry for the revival.

Just did this and the clutch feels like a normal clutch finally! Just for peace of mind, its fine if no assembly is in place correct? I dont have a replacement spring so im just riding with nothing there instead. I know someone said earlier that it shouldnt affect anything but im wondering if anyone located any problems (over time)? just want to be sure im not hurting anything

xcQuence · 04-24-2015, 03:12 PM

Not sure if this was mentioned or not but I thought I'd add something.

After removing the helper spring and re-installing all of the other OEM components (another small spring and what appears to be it's housing) the clutch felt MUCH better. That being said, I would occasionally feel a "pop" when fully compressing the clutch and letting off (in every gear). This "pop" would end a little bit into my "sweet spot" making it hard to smoothly get the car rolling. After getting back under the seat... I realized that the smaller spring was getting stuck to the housing and popping out. This is a result of no tension on the smaller spring due to the lack of the OEM spring.

I removed the smaller spring and housing... VIOLA. The clutch is pretty much perfect. I don't think I'll be purchasing an aftermarket spring!

TL;DR = Remove everything you see below!

JARblue · 04-24-2015, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcQuence

Not sure if this was mentioned or not but I thought I'd add something.

I was getting the same "pop" and wondered if I could remove that part. Glad to hear that you can

I never messed with it and got the RJM clutch pedal assembly instead. If the spring replacement/removal doesn't satisfy you, I highly recommend the RJM pedal

Pelican170 · 05-07-2015, 01:42 PM

Funny, I just got to driving the car again from winter storage. I kept saying, "what the hell is wrong with this clutch?" especially in 1st gear. Its been 5 years now and I still feel like a newb in 1st with this car. I am going to give this at try right away.

So what is the consensus, just remove both springs vs. buying a different spring?

MagmaRed370z · 05-07-2015, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170

Funny, I just got to driving the car again from winter storage. I kept saying, "what the hell is wrong with this clutch?" especially in 1st gear. Its been 5 years now and I still feel like a newb in 1st with this car. I am going to give this at try right away.

So what is the consensus, just remove both springs vs. buying a different spring?

Yup Exactly. Do you guys know where to buy this spring?

Pelican170 · 05-07-2015, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr

Yup Exactly. Do you guys know where to buy this spring?

I would like of like one as well just to compare between no spring and the new spring. Let me know if you find someone selling and I will do the same...

Also, you can buy online but its a minimum of $40 plus shipping, which is why I assume people were group buying...

Pelican170 · 05-07-2015, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr

Yup Exactly. Do you guys know where to buy this spring?

Found this as well...

INFINITI G37 G37S G35 NISSAN 370Z 370 Z 6MT CLUTCH PEDAL ASSIST RETURN SPRING | eBay

Bananaz · 05-07-2015, 02:59 PM

I may go with the rjm pedal. I've had the other spring for a while and after a while you don't notice a difference anymore and it's still jerky

6spd · 05-07-2015, 03:15 PM

Step 1: remove springs
Step 2: don't buy new springs
Step 3: take wife/gf to dinner with the savings
Step 3: buy self beer

MagmaRed370z · 05-08-2015, 08:47 PM

Alright, so I took the stock spring out but then a small spring came out too?
Do I need to put the small spring back? If yes then where does it go?
Everything came out kinda quick that I didn't have time to see how the small spring was setup.

I put everything together withouth the 2 springs. Took a 10 mile ride and everything works.

Please advise. Thank you
See image below (warning it will probably be a big image don't know how to make it smaller)

6spd · 05-09-2015, 11:00 AM

Its perfectly fine sans both springs

MagmaRed370z · 05-09-2015, 05:56 PM

This feels sooooooo much better than with the spring. WOW! I don't really know why Nissan puts this crappy spring in there. This is how a clutch should feel for sure! I already order the new weaker spring and will arrive on Tuesday.

Really! Why the hell did Nissan design it that way? So dumb!

nis350 · 05-09-2015, 08:10 PM

Looking at the mechanic of these springs. It would probably be a bit harder to press down and stronger on the return. Is that how it feel after the springs removal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr

This feels sooooooo much better than with the spring. WOW! I don't really know why Nissan puts this crappy spring in there. This is how a clutch should feel for sure! I already order the new weaker spring and will arrive on Tuesday.

Really! Why the hell did Nissan design it that way? So dumb!

08-15-2014, 06:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 45 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684442	If you got it part way out, can you get some vice grips on there and leverage it out the rest of the way? __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

04-24-2015, 03:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
xcQuence Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 13 Drives: 2014 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 13	Not sure if this was mentioned or not but I thought I'd add something. After removing the helper spring and re-installing all of the other OEM components (another small spring and what appears to be it's housing) the clutch felt MUCH better. That being said, I would occasionally feel a "pop" when fully compressing the clutch and letting off (in every gear). This "pop" would end a little bit into my "sweet spot" making it hard to smoothly get the car rolling. After getting back under the seat... I realized that the smaller spring was getting stuck to the housing and popping out. This is a result of no tension on the smaller spring due to the lack of the OEM spring. I removed the smaller spring and housing... VIOLA. The clutch is pretty much perfect. I don't think I'll be purchasing an aftermarket spring! TL;DR = Remove everything you see below! pbs370z likes this. __________________ www.jCinema.tv

05-07-2015, 01:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pelican170 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 972 Drives: Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 17	Funny, I just got to driving the car again from winter storage. I kept saying, "what the hell is wrong with this clutch?" especially in 1st gear. Its been 5 years now and I still feel like a newb in 1st with this car. I am going to give this at try right away. So what is the consensus, just remove both springs vs. buying a different spring? __________________ Fast Intentions CF Exhaust - Fast Intentions HFC's - HPS Tubes w/ AFE Dry Flow Filter's

05-07-2015, 02:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bananaz Track Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 637 Drives: 09 370z 6MT/B+Sport Rep Power: 15	I may go with the rjm pedal. I've had the other spring for a while and after a while you don't notice a difference anymore and it's still jerky __________________ BC - SSR - Evo-R - ViS - SPC - ZSpeed - Beluga - Blox - 35% Tint - Clutch Spring - Fang Forced Air Ducting

05-07-2015, 03:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 26	Step 1: remove springs Step 2: don't buy new springs Step 3: take wife/gf to dinner with the savings Step 3: buy self beer __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-15-2014, 06:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ensaner Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 95 Drives: 09 Z, 6MT Rep Power: 15	Is there one or two c clips? And I've tried that, seems so stuck!

12-25-2014, 05:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
smoothtransit Base Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 63 Drives: 09 370 BS 6mt Rep Power: 12	Sorry for the revival. Just did this and the clutch feels like a normal clutch finally! Just for peace of mind, its fine if no assembly is in place correct? I dont have a replacement spring so im just riding with nothing there instead. I know someone said earlier that it shouldnt affect anything but im wondering if anyone located any problems (over time)? just want to be sure im not hurting anything

05-08-2015, 08:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 14	Alright, so I took the stock spring out but then a small spring came out too? Do I need to put the small spring back? If yes then where does it go? Everything came out kinda quick that I didn't have time to see how the small spring was setup. I put everything together withouth the 2 springs. Took a 10 mile ride and everything works. Please advise. Thank you See image below (warning it will probably be a big image don't know how to make it smaller) __________________ Sold: 2014 Magnetic Black Base. Current: 2014 Magma Red 370z Sport \| ARK Grip Exhaust \| 25mm HR Spacers \| GTR Button \| DRL Mod Last edited by MagmaRed370z; 05-08-2015 at 09:48 PM.

05-09-2015, 11:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 26	Its perfectly fine sans both springs __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

05-09-2015, 05:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 14	This feels sooooooo much better than with the spring. WOW! I don't really know why Nissan puts this crappy spring in there. This is how a clutch should feel for sure! I already order the new weaker spring and will arrive on Tuesday. Really! Why the hell did Nissan design it that way? So dumb!

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