Two steps

TongMan · 03-15-2011, 11:04 PM

I do not have launch control (2 step) on my Z. I currently have it on my Civic Si. It really is bad ***. I have it set at 3100 rpm with a rebound of 3000 rpm. Perfect launches every time.

wh1te370z · 03-16-2011, 08:42 AM

i cant believe no ones done it.

TongMan · 03-16-2011, 08:50 AM

The ECU tuning sucks for the 370z. I was looking for some ECU tuning a few weeks ago and I only found the Cobb Accessport and the Uprev software, which, according to me, sucked and not worth the price. Cobb is long gone.

theDreamer · 03-16-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

The ECU tuning sucks for the 370z. I was looking for some ECU tuning a few weeks ago and I only found the Cobb Accessport and the Uprev software, which, according to me, sucked and not worth the price. Cobb is long gone.

Cobb is worthless
Uprev is far from worthless

gaveup · 03-16-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Cobb is worthless
Uprev is far from worthless

Because you can tune VVEL with it right? Full timing control?

Oh no?

Well then it's definitely worth the price tag.....except it's not.

Red__Zed · 03-16-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gaveup

Because you can tune VVEL with it right? Full timing control?

Oh no?

Well then it's definitely worth the price tag.....except it's not.

I don't get people's hangup with VVEL. You can tune the car just fine without adjusting VVEL.

theDreamer · 03-16-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I don't get people's hangup with VVEL. You can tune the car just fine without adjusting VVEL.

Ding!

gaveup · 03-16-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I don't get people's hangup with VVEL. You can tune the car just fine without adjusting VVEL.

I'm sure you can. My problem with uprev is the cost. For the price they charge for the cable and software I would expect to have much more control over the ECU.

Maybe it's because I came from a WRX to the 370Z, but the WRX community was much more..in general. Tuning software was open source and all you really had to buy was a cable ($75) to connect from your laptop to OBDII, download openECU (free) and romraider (free) and you were on your way.

To me, paying $700 for the same thing (with less features) just doesn't compute. However, it seems to be the norm for anything Z related. Charge more because you know people will pay for it.

Red__Zed · 03-16-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gaveup

I'm sure you can. My problem with uprev is the cost. For the price they charge for the cable and software I would expect to have much more control over the ECU.

Maybe it's because I came from a WRX to the 370Z, but the WRX community was much more..in general. Tuning software was open source and all you really had to buy was a cable ($75) to connect from your laptop to OBDII, download openECU (free) and romraider (free) and you were on your way.

To me, paying $700 for the same thing (with less features) just doesn't compute. However, it seems to be the norm for anything Z related. Charge more because you know people will pay for it.

The Subaru market is bigger. Companies have to recoup their R and D costs, so you'll have a higher per-unit cost.

Somebody already stepped up and paid those costs for the Subaru community.

6spd · 03-16-2011, 04:36 PM

$700 is small compared to the $1000+ that hondata charges for their honda computers and tunes.

wh1te370z · 03-16-2011, 05:39 PM

Ok called MSD and a bunch of local shops and no one can install it with out putting in a new ECU? i find this hard to believe..

theDreamer · 03-16-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wh1te370z

Ok called MSD and a bunch of local shops and no one can install it with out putting in a new ECU? i find this hard to believe..

Putting in a new ECU?
Uprev is a simple plug/play type system. Plug it into the OBD-II, make adjustment and your done.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-16-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Putting in a new ECU?
Uprev is a simple plug/play type system. Plug it into the OBD-II, make adjustment and your done.

I think he was talking about the two step, not the Uprev tune

wh1te370z · 03-16-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Putting in a new ECU?
Uprev is a simple plug/play type system. Plug it into the OBD-II, make adjustment and your done.

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I think he was talking about the two step, not the Uprev tune

^^ yea they say they have to repace the ecu to install a two step. I don't understand why tho??

Red__Zed · 03-16-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wh1te370z

^^ yea they say they have to repace the ecu to install a two step. I don't understand why tho??

Worth asking. They may be used to doing that due to working on other platforms.

03-16-2011, 08:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 17	i cant believe no ones done it. __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

03-16-2011, 04:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 26	$700 is small compared to the $1000+ that hondata charges for their honda computers and tunes. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-16-2011, 05:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 17	Ok called MSD and a bunch of local shops and no one can install it with out putting in a new ECU? i find this hard to believe.. __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

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TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 717	The ECU tuning sucks for the 370z. I was looking for some ECU tuning a few weeks ago and I only found the Cobb Accessport and the Uprev software, which, according to me, sucked and not worth the price. Cobb is long gone.