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TongMan 03-16-2011 12:04 AM
I do not have launch control (2 step) on my Z. I currently have it on my Civic Si. It really is bad ***. I have it set at 3100 rpm with a rebound of 3000 rpm. Perfect launches every time.

wh1te370z 03-16-2011 09:42 AM
i cant believe no ones done it.

TongMan 03-16-2011 09:50 AM
The ECU tuning sucks for the 370z. I was looking for some ECU tuning a few weeks ago and I only found the Cobb Accessport and the Uprev software, which, according to me, sucked and not worth the price. Cobb is long gone.

theDreamer 03-16-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 989988)
The ECU tuning sucks for the 370z. I was looking for some ECU tuning a few weeks ago and I only found the Cobb Accessport and the Uprev software, which, according to me, sucked and not worth the price. Cobb is long gone.
Cobb is worthless
Uprev is far from worthless

gaveup 03-16-2011 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 989990)
Cobb is worthless
Uprev is far from worthless
Because you can tune VVEL with it right? Full timing control?

Oh no?

Well then it's definitely worth the price tag.....except it's not.

Red__Zed 03-16-2011 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 990444)
Because you can tune VVEL with it right? Full timing control?

Oh no?

Well then it's definitely worth the price tag.....except it's not.
I don't get people's hangup with VVEL. You can tune the car just fine without adjusting VVEL.

theDreamer 03-16-2011 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 990450)
I don't get people's hangup with VVEL. You can tune the car just fine without adjusting VVEL.
Ding!

gaveup 03-16-2011 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 990450)
I don't get people's hangup with VVEL. You can tune the car just fine without adjusting VVEL.
I'm sure you can. My problem with uprev is the cost. For the price they charge for the cable and software I would expect to have much more control over the ECU.

Maybe it's because I came from a WRX to the 370Z, but the WRX community was much more..in general. Tuning software was open source and all you really had to buy was a cable ($75) to connect from your laptop to OBDII, download openECU (free) and romraider (free) and you were on your way.

To me, paying $700 for the same thing (with less features) just doesn't compute. However, it seems to be the norm for anything Z related. Charge more because you know people will pay for it.

Red__Zed 03-16-2011 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 990599)
I'm sure you can. My problem with uprev is the cost. For the price they charge for the cable and software I would expect to have much more control over the ECU.

Maybe it's because I came from a WRX to the 370Z, but the WRX community was much more..in general. Tuning software was open source and all you really had to buy was a cable ($75) to connect from your laptop to OBDII, download openECU (free) and romraider (free) and you were on your way.

To me, paying $700 for the same thing (with less features) just doesn't compute. However, it seems to be the norm for anything Z related. Charge more because you know people will pay for it.

The Subaru market is bigger. Companies have to recoup their R and D costs, so you'll have a higher per-unit cost.

Somebody already stepped up and paid those costs for the Subaru community.

6spd 03-16-2011 05:36 PM
$700 is small compared to the $1000+ that hondata charges for their honda computers and tunes.

wh1te370z 03-16-2011 06:39 PM
Ok called MSD and a bunch of local shops and no one can install it with out putting in a new ECU? i find this hard to believe..

theDreamer 03-16-2011 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wh1te370z (Post 991336)
Ok called MSD and a bunch of local shops and no one can install it with out putting in a new ECU? i find this hard to believe..
Putting in a new ECU?
Uprev is a simple plug/play type system. Plug it into the OBD-II, make adjustment and your done.

b1adesofcha0s 03-16-2011 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 991528)
Putting in a new ECU?
Uprev is a simple plug/play type system. Plug it into the OBD-II, make adjustment and your done.
I think he was talking about the two step, not the Uprev tune :tup:

wh1te370z 03-17-2011 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 991528)
Putting in a new ECU?
Uprev is a simple plug/play type system. Plug it into the OBD-II, make adjustment and your done.
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 991664)
I think he was talking about the two step, not the Uprev tune :tup:
^^ yea they say they have to repace the ecu to install a two step. I don't understand why tho??

Red__Zed 03-17-2011 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wh1te370z (Post 992114)
^^ yea they say they have to repace the ecu to install a two step. I don't understand why tho??
Worth asking. They may be used to doing that due to working on other platforms.


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