Everyone with oil temp issues

370Zsteve · 11-23-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ricky bobby

I change the(nissan recommended ester) oil approx. every 1500 miles what else can i do?

Expensive overkill! No offense, but the name Ricky Bobby makes me think you drive really hard on the street......

semtex · 11-23-2009, 07:47 AM

Okay, I made a poll. Enjoy.

Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?

vortrex · 11-23-2009, 07:20 PM

today my car was at 235F in stop and go traffic on the highway, 50F outside. doesn't this seem a bit much? is 240F is the limp mode cutoff?

semtex · 11-24-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vortrex

today my car was at 235F in stop and go traffic on the highway, 50F outside. doesn't this seem a bit much? is 240F is the limp mode cutoff?

Limp mode is at 280, I believe. 235 is nothing to worry too much about.

alan93rsa · 11-23-2009, 07:59 PM

Robert,

There are costs to Nissan that are not evident at their point of sale. In my case it is in the lack of future points of sale. Five laps on the track and I sold the Z and went back to Porsche. There won't be any more Nissan products in my garage.

The big question I still have, and everyone on here should as well, is why did Nissan put oil and diff. coolers on cars and then put them in the hands of journalists on the very thing they say they have no responsibility for? The track!!!

Robert, why don't you ask corporate why they did that and get back to us with their response.

370Zsteve · 11-23-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa

Robert,

There are costs to Nissan that are not evident at their point of sale. In my case it is in the lack of future points of sale. Five laps on the track and I sold the Z and went back to Porsche. There won't be any more Nissan products in my garage.

The big question I still have, and everyone on here should as well, is why did Nissan put oil and diff. coolers on cars and then put them in the hands of journalists on the very thing they say they have no responsibility for? The track!!!

Robert, why don't you ask corporate why they did that and get back to us with their response.

Why didn't you just put an oil cooler on rather than selling for a loss and buying a Cayman? Now you have the same performance, a car that is not nearly as pretty, and you are out a ton of money.

Testdriver · 11-23-2009, 10:29 PM

I test drove a 2009 sport with touring 370z. I drove it for over 10 minutes from standing to around 40 mph, starts, stops, turns. I noticed the heat gauge going up and up and figured maybe the sales rep didn't put enough coolant in the car. This was in October, with average temp outside of around 68 degrees F.

When we got out of the car, there was an obvious burning smell. We did not come close to tracking the car, and were floored by it overheating so easily. If you can't slam on the gas to feel the torque from time to time without it overheating, what is the point? It was so odd, we really did believe there was something wrong on the coolant side, not a engineered defect allowed to make it into production.

Also, when we test drove the car, we had not heard about the oil temp issue so many have been discussing. If the car overheats when someone is slamming on the gas here and there to briefly test out its power, i can only imagine trying to have fun with it in the middle of the summer. A burning smell coming from the car cannot be good for it, regardless of what the dealer/manufacturer says. Nissan providing test cars with oil coolers just goes to show they knew magazine reviewers test driving them would encounter an overheating problem and warn people to stay clear.

I'm not looking forward to having to buy an oil cooler just to be able to slam on the gas from time to time, if that was the case, i would have just bought a sedan that was meant for getting to 60 slower and designed for comfort, not speed.

Matt · 11-24-2009, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

I test drove a 2009 sport with touring 370z. I drove it for over 10 minutes from standing to around 40 mph, starts, stops, turns. I noticed the heat gauge going up and up and figured maybe the sales rep didn't put enough coolant in the car. This was in October, with average temp outside of around 68 degrees F.

When we got out of the car, there was an obvious burning smell. We did not come close to tracking the car, and were floored by it overheating so easily. If you can't slam on the gas to feel the torque from time to time without it overheating, what is the point? It was so odd, we really did believe there was something wrong on the coolant side, not a engineered defect allowed to make it into production.

Also, when we test drove the car, we had not heard about the oil temp issue so many have been discussing. If the car overheats when someone is slamming on the gas here and there to briefly test out its power, i can only imagine trying to have fun with it in the middle of the summer. A burning smell coming from the car cannot be good for it, regardless of what the dealer/manufacturer says. Nissan providing test cars with oil coolers just goes to show they knew magazine reviewers test driving them would encounter an overheating problem and warn people to stay clear.

I'm not looking forward to having to buy an oil cooler just to be able to slam on the gas from time to time, if that was the case, i would have just bought a sedan that was meant for getting to 60 slower and designed for comfort, not speed.

I think you're the first person to have high temps while going 40 mph.

I've gone 130+ and have done some pretty-spirited driving and haven't gotten close to being worried about the temps.

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

I think you're the first person to have high temps while going 40 mph.

semtex · 11-24-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

I think you're the first person to have high temps while going 40 mph.

I've gone 130+ and have done some pretty-spirited driving and haven't gotten close to being worried about the temps.

A lot of this depends on airflow to the radiator, because the oil is water-cooled via the radiator. So regardless of speed, if you have a bunch of traffic in front of you blocking good clean airflow, it's going to lead to higher oil temps. So if you're driving at a decent clip with not very much traffic on the Interstate, your oil temps will be significantly lower than they'd be if you were driving at a relatively pedestrian pace on backroads doing a test drive.

Modshack · 11-24-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

I test drove a 2009 sport with touring 370z. I drove it for over 10 minutes from standing to around 40 mph, starts, stops, turns. I noticed the heat gauge going up and up and figured maybe the sales rep didn't put enough coolant in the car. This was in October, with average temp outside of around 68 degrees F.

When we got out of the car, there was an obvious burning smell.

I think you're a little confused about what we're talking about here. The car was not overheating, and your salesman sounds like an idiot if he did not know what was happening here. Oil temps and water temps are 2 completely different things. It takes longer than 10 minutes for the Oil temp needle to even get off the peg. You were probably referring to the temp LED gauge, which really isnt a gauge. Anywhere from 150 to 220 degrees will light up the same dot. It will rise quickly from stone cold which probably confused you. Your salesman shouold have known better. On the Burning smell, it's NOT burning...Just oils and preservatives cooking off that are just part of new car build procedures. This will take a few days. From a coolant perspective, this car actually runs very cool...in the 180 degree range which is low for modern emissions controlled cars.

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Originally Posted by Matt

I think you're the first person to have high temps while going 40 mph.

I've gone 130+ and have done some pretty-spirited driving and haven't gotten close to being worried about the temps.

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Testdriver

I test drove a 2009 sport with touring 370z. I drove it for over 10 minutes from standing to around 40 mph, starts, stops, turns. I noticed the heat gauge going up and up and figured maybe the sales rep didn't put enough coolant in the car. This was in October, with average temp outside of around 68 degrees F.

When we got out of the car, there was an obvious burning smell. We did not come close to tracking the car, and were floored by it overheating so easily. If you can't slam on the gas to feel the torque from time to time without it overheating, what is the point? It was so odd, we really did believe there was something wrong on the coolant side, not a engineered defect allowed to make it into production.

Also, when we test drove the car, we had not heard about the oil temp issue so many have been discussing. If the car overheats when someone is slamming on the gas here and there to briefly test out its power, i can only imagine trying to have fun with it in the middle of the summer. A burning smell coming from the car cannot be good for it, regardless of what the dealer/manufacturer says. Nissan providing test cars with oil coolers just goes to show they knew magazine reviewers test driving them would encounter an overheating problem and warn people to stay clear.

I'm not looking forward to having to buy an oil cooler just to be able to slam on the gas from time to time, if that was the case, i would have just bought a sedan that was meant for getting to 60 slower and designed for comfort, not speed.

Every new car has a burning smell. Your salesman sounds like a moron, btw.

Robert_Nash · 11-23-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa

Robert,

There are costs to Nissan that are not evident at their point of sale. In my case it is in the lack of future points of sale. Five laps on the track and I sold the Z and went back to Porsche. There won't be any more Nissan products in my garage.

The big question I still have, and everyone on here should as well, is why did Nissan put oil and diff. coolers on cars and then put them in the hands of journalists on the very thing they say they have no responsibility for? The track!!!

Robert, why don't you ask corporate why they did that and get back to us with their response.

I hope you enjoy your Porsche.

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

I hope you enjoy your Porsche.

ConchZ2 · 11-24-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa

Robert,

There are costs to Nissan that are not evident at their point of sale. In my case it is in the lack of future points of sale. Five laps on the track and I sold the Z and went back to Porsche. There won't be any more Nissan products in my garage.

The big question I still have, and everyone on here should as well, is why did Nissan put oil and diff. coolers on cars and then put them in the hands of journalists on the very thing they say they have no responsibility for? The track!!!

Robert, why don't you ask corporate why they did that and get back to us with their response.

That’s because every “merkin” face magazine reviewer is going drive it (370Z) like it’s in a demolition derby!

Cayman engines have a 20% failure rate by 60k miles and the 2009's with DFI have serious problems with carboning. The rear main seal problems are a sign of high quality?
Hopefully VW can fix the entire BS………….I’ve owned Porsches in the past and hopefully the problems will get fix in the future!

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11-23-2009, 07:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Okay, I made a poll. Enjoy. Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

11-23-2009, 07:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 221	Robert, There are costs to Nissan that are not evident at their point of sale. In my case it is in the lack of future points of sale. Five laps on the track and I sold the Z and went back to Porsche. There won't be any more Nissan products in my garage. The big question I still have, and everyone on here should as well, is why did Nissan put oil and diff. coolers on cars and then put them in the hands of journalists on the very thing they say they have no responsibility for? The track!!! Robert, why don't you ask corporate why they did that and get back to us with their response. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

11-23-2009, 10:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
Testdriver Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: texas Posts: 1 Drives: 370z 2009 Rep Power: 16	I test drove a 2009 sport with touring 370z. I drove it for over 10 minutes from standing to around 40 mph, starts, stops, turns. I noticed the heat gauge going up and up and figured maybe the sales rep didn't put enough coolant in the car. This was in October, with average temp outside of around 68 degrees F. When we got out of the car, there was an obvious burning smell. We did not come close to tracking the car, and were floored by it overheating so easily. If you can't slam on the gas to feel the torque from time to time without it overheating, what is the point? It was so odd, we really did believe there was something wrong on the coolant side, not a engineered defect allowed to make it into production. Also, when we test drove the car, we had not heard about the oil temp issue so many have been discussing. If the car overheats when someone is slamming on the gas here and there to briefly test out its power, i can only imagine trying to have fun with it in the middle of the summer. A burning smell coming from the car cannot be good for it, regardless of what the dealer/manufacturer says. Nissan providing test cars with oil coolers just goes to show they knew magazine reviewers test driving them would encounter an overheating problem and warn people to stay clear. I'm not looking forward to having to buy an oil cooler just to be able to slam on the gas from time to time, if that was the case, i would have just bought a sedan that was meant for getting to 60 slower and designed for comfort, not speed. Last edited by Testdriver; 11-23-2009 at 10:34 PM.

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11-23-2009, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
vortrex Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SF, CA Posts: 199 Drives: '09 370z 6spd Rep Power: 16	today my car was at 235F in stop and go traffic on the highway, 50F outside. doesn't this seem a bit much? is 240F is the limp mode cutoff?