Well, buy a cooler then. Uff.

I already did. Uff. Look, I don't care if you don't feel one is necessary. You can do whatever you want with your car. And we can agree to disagree. But where do you get off coming on here, acting like some censorship Nazi trying to end discussion on a topic, saying that the thread needs to be locked, etc.? If you don't think it's a topic worth discussing anymore, fine, then unsubscribe from the thread and don't discuss it anymore. But just because you don't think it warrants further discussion, that doesn't somehow give you the right to silence everyone else like some self-appointed censor of the forum.

Okay. The "Nazi" will step back. The "Nazi" will say it once more. Track it, put on a cooler. That's right from the engineers at Nissan right to my phone.

You just said above you didn't have on you cooler, but are deciding to put it on. To me that's not having one on your car.

Alright, I'm going to step back too. If I offended you with the 'Nazi' remark, I apologize. This isn't worth getting into a pissing contest over. But I want ask you one thing. Do you really consider Nissan engineers to be impartial in this? I mean, what else are they going to tell you? If their employer made a bad call and under-equipped a car, are they going to openly tell people 'yeah, we screwed up on this one'? I'm thinking no. Could be wrong, but my gut says no. Like I said in an earlier post, for me personally, this is really just about peace of mind at this point. I have no problem stating (and have already stated) that there is no hard evidence that 260 degrees will actually cause any long-term reliability issues. If someone asks me why I have an oil cooler, I am not going to tell them that it's necessary to prevent damage to the engine, I am going to tell them that it's just for peace of mind, can't hurt, etc. I think you and I are actually much closer to being on the same page than you might realize. Again, I apologize if you took offense at my previous post.

I have already purchased the Stillen kit, but it is not yet installed. It is sitting in my garage until my next oil change. So when you said buy a cooler, I said I already did because, well, I already did. Sorry for the confusion. :rolleyes:

Roger that Semtex. Sorry for trying to close this. I guess at my company, that is quite large, we are encouraged to send all comments right to our CEO and GM if there's a problem. I have 200,000 to 400,000 people who watch me do the weather when I work. I make mistakes, yes. I fess up if something really goes haywire, and people let me know. I guess I just assume that many companies would have more to lose by being idiots to us, the people who buy their products. Could I be wrong about all of this? Sure. With my previous Nissans and Infinitis, they have never let me down. They usually came out with a fix to a problem before I even had anything go wrong. Any problem I've had with mine have been so minor. As for now, I will just trust them as long as my luck with their products. I even have my boss buying Nissans and Infinitis for he and his wife now. Sorry about my posts too, Semtex. AK said this subject really stirs some emotion, and I was a prime example of this.

I just hit 126c while trying to get the max speed. i didnt even get to drive to the top speed when i noticed the temp and had to slow down..#($&@$.!! my car is only the 4th car in the country so there hasnt been any 'complains' yet here.. im on the fence with installing aftermarket coolers.

How many miles do you have on your car?

As is the case with a number of people, this issue has caused me to delay my decision about buying a new Z. I do remember a few pages back some posts to the effect that with some vehicles the problem seemed to be resolving itself as the car accumulated mileage. Is it too soon predict that this might be the case with most - if not all - of the cars affected with this problem?

If you believe that there is an oil temp issue then maybe you should look at buying a Genesis Coupe or ??? I bought the 370Z and do not track it. I'm as happy as a pig in shite with it along with most owners here. But you decide.

Your loss. Maybe you'd be lucky and be one of the 99.5%+ who do not have any issues, but Maybe not. Life can be mighty dangerous sometimes...Sounds like you're not a gambler and should probably look at something else .

That's why I asked vehl about his mileage. His post gives me the impression that his car is still very new. If that's true, then (a) I wonder if he's even heeding the 1200 mile break-in procedure, and (b) I was going to point out to him that the temps tend to go down as these engines get broken in.

Nissan can't void the warranty unless they can prove the oil cooler caused a problem. You are protected by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975.

Thanks for your response, although it didn't answer my question. All I was trying to find out was if some of those owners who believe they had a problem are having less of one as they wrack up the miles on their cars.

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I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but are there any other (perhaps less effective) methods of cooling the oil that don't involve rerouting the oil?

Would adding air ducts from the front bumper to the oil pan create a cooling effect? Or what about an electric cooler positioned down there?

These would of course not be enough for track users, but may lower oil temps to normal levels for street driving. It would also be much harder for Nissan to say your warranty is shot.

How about this for engine bay cooling :icon17:

John

Simple mod here:

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...your-sump.html

http://images30.fotki.com/v476/photo...MG_1858-vi.jpg

Am I remembering correctly, that you mentioned sometime back you were thinking of doing this mod? This is your car correct? And if so, how well is it working? Thanks!

John

Yup....I did it, but can't really say how well it works as I have a cooler as well....Temps havent exceeded 215 here in Hot NC since I did it though!

Thanks, I would guess any mod to move air through the engine bay would have to disapate the heat to some degree.

John

i dont know if this is discussd already, but how hard is it to hide the fact that you have an oil cooler in ur Z in the case ur engine breaks down and ur trying to recover through warranty?

LOL...Nothing you can hide....if it's there it's there. If it's not, well.....

its currently at 1800km.

Summer has definitely hit around here (L.A. county) with temperatures in the high 90's to low 100's. I am now averaging 240F in L.A. traffic. (45min commute 1-way)

I've noticed acceleration is not as lively when the engine runs this hot compared to initial startup in the morning when the oil temp is below 200F. Is this common? Car feels really sluggish accelerating from a dead stop . I notice that I'm having to give her more gas to get her going.

I've got 6 speed manual and no oil cooler atm and just hit 4k miles. I'm hoping this isn't a clutch or fuel injection problem.

So you haven't even completed the break-in period yet (1200 miles, which = 1920 km). What are you doing pushing your car so hard so soon? I don't think you can really complain if you ignore the proper break-in procedure. Anyway, the experience of most people, including myself, is that as the engine breaks in more, the temps go down. Hopefully that will happen for you as well. So don't panic until you have more mileage on your car.

my point exactly.... so can one remove the oil cooler before taking the car to the dealership to get it fixed and avoid any warranty issues... :tup:

The sluggishness is not your oil temps, but your IAT temps (Intake air temps). It's very easy to hit 150 degrees while sitting in traffic. The ECU pulls back timing when it gets that hot and the car will consequently not feel as perky as when the air temps are cooler. Perfectly normal actually..

Thanks for explaining that, Modshack.

Looks like the G3 will be moving up the list for mods.

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Hey Mod, don't cha just love those crisp, fall, NC days, not a cloud in the sky and low humidity ................ the car just runs like a bat out of hell :icon17:

John

:tup: My old Turbo'd Audi TT used to really love em... The Z likes her trips to the mountains too though...;)

semtex,
yeah i know i havent broken in yet but the temptation is too much. still, at least im not the only one with temp issues even after run-in. i do hope it gets better after 1920km, which it has now.. though yesterday i spotted a small 'cooler' looking object behind the grill on the right side of the car, im gonna go check and see what it is later.

It's the power steering cooler.

I advanced my timing by 2 degrees is that better or worse in this South Texas Heat? It's been over 100 for 21 days :icon18:

Worse

I've never seen a car that has one...why?

I can't imagine they would opt to have the PS cooled, but leave the oil out of it...if it really DOES matter.

Most cars have them in one form or another...Either a dedicated cooler, or an extended routing of the Pipes/hoses from the pump to the rack. Pumping that fluid at high pressures makes heat..

wow this thread is STILL going?! havent checked it since we were at page 40 thinking it was gonna stop any moment.....I was worried about the temps as well but in the end, it's just a car. Enjoy it for what it gives you both the bad and the good. No car is going to be perfect peeps.

I Agree with Semtex.....about adding the Oil Cooler for a safety factor.....does anyone have an idea of just how much cooler the oil stays with the oil cooler?

Roughly a quart in the core and lines.. My car takes 6 qts to fill