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KillerBee370 11-10-2009 07:14 PM

I just wanted to make it 1000 replies

370Zsteve 11-13-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z (Post 274794)
I also have spoken with Royal Palm Nissan's Service Manager in South Florida and cannot get a straight answer as to whether or not the warranty would be voided despite a dealer installed oil cooler. I am definitely not mechanically inclined enough to install it myself.
How much weight to the car does an installed oil cooler add?

Read the OP. it explains Nissan's viewpoint on warranty.

avitech 11-17-2009 01:29 AM

Believe it or not, I'm very very picky when it comes to cars and for some reason this oil temperature issue doesn't even bother me. It's nice to have reminders from Nissan about how fast you are driving a car. The higher temperatures cause people to slow down if they had been speeding. Most Z's that are sold will never see the track anyway. It's cooling system is sufficient for the public access roads but not for drag racing. Fine by me. I'm not the one to encourage unsafe behavior in public spaces anyway. Why should Nissan? Once that oil climbs above 300 degrees it is an indication that you are simply pushing it too hard. You can get an oil cooler installed as aftermarket but it would void the warranty. How do you know Nissan didn't plan this to cover their own finances when it comes to warranty repair work from people abusing their cars.

These are some really wreckless speeds that are unsafe for public roads and it puts many many innocent lives in danger. Let's not forget that the Nissan Z is the worst offender for getting traffic moving violations and car wrecks. It's still a great car though. It is just that it has the tendency to attract a certain crowd that causes it's insurance costs to rise up well above normal.

A Lotus Elise is a better track car in my humble opinion. I would get the Z just to drive around town but keep a beater car for groceries getting and bad weather. I don't want someone hitting their shopping cart on my aluminum bodied Nissan Z. Aluminum is weak and dents easily.

Think about this for a minute. If a car that weighs 3,300 pounds with a 332 horsepower V6 engine is overheating even though it is running as designed; This goes to show that someone is driving too fast for even the best driving conditions of dry roads, daylight and 100% visibility. Just drive normally and the oil temperature will stay within normal limits.

You get what you pay for. This is no Porsche 911. But it is still a fine car. You treat the car right and the car will treat you right.

If you want to drive faster than 80mph you should just get an airplane and learn to fly.

ricky bobby 11-17-2009 02:37 AM

anyone know how accurate the speedo is?

semtex 11-17-2009 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 283628)
Let's not forget that the Nissan Z is the worst offender for getting traffic moving violations and car wrecks.

On what basis do you make this statement? Do you have some official statistics or something showing that, say, for every 100 Zs, a greater number of them have moving violations and accidents compared to any other make/model on the road?

370Zsteve 11-17-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 283774)
On what basis do you make this statement? Do you have some official statistics or something showing that, say, for every 100 Zs, a greater number of them have moving violations and accidents compared to any other make/model on the road?

The guy drives an 82 Mercedes diesel. He gets ticketed constantly for driving too slowly, warnings for contributing more to global warming than Exxon-Mobil, chicks won't date him and he's pissed.

Modshack 11-17-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 283774)
On what basis do you make this statement? Do you have some official statistics or something showing that, say, for every 100 Zs, a greater number of them have moving violations and accidents compared to any other make/model on the road?

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 284035)
The guy drives an 82 Mercedes diesel. He gets ticketed constantly for driving too slowly, warnings for contributing more to global warming than Exxon-Mobil, chicks won't date him and he's pissed.

I suspect it's the rating category. My insurance went up substantially when I moved from the Vette to the Z, but everyone knows it's old men that drive them and rarely put them in harms way. Hardly the case with many here and their Z's.......

Matt 11-17-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 284045)
I suspect it's the rating category. My insurance went up substantially when I moved from the Vette to the Z, but everyone knows it's old men that drive them and rarely put them in harms way. Hardly the case with many here and their Z's.......

My quotes barely moved when I went from a Scion to a Z and actually went up when I was quoted for both a G37 and 135i.

ricky bobby 11-17-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 283628)
Believe it or not, I'm very very picky when it comes to cars and for some reason this oil temperature issue doesn't even bother me. It's nice to have reminders from Nissan about how fast you are driving a car. The higher temperatures cause people to slow down if they had been speeding. Most Z's that are sold will never see the track anyway. It's cooling system is sufficient for the public access roads but not for drag racing. Fine by me. I'm not the one to encourage unsafe behavior in public spaces anyway. Why should Nissan? Once that oil climbs above 300 degrees it is an indication that you are simply pushing it too hard. You can get an oil cooler installed as aftermarket but it would void the warranty. How do you know Nissan didn't plan this to cover their own finances when it comes to warranty repair work from people abusing their cars.

These are some really wreckless speeds that are unsafe for public roads and it puts many many innocent lives in danger. Let's not forget that the Nissan Z is the worst offender for getting traffic moving violations and car wrecks. It's still a great car though. It is just that it has the tendency to attract a certain crowd that causes it's insurance costs to rise up well above normal.

A Lotus Elise is a better track car in my humble opinion. I would get the Z just to drive around town but keep a beater car for groceries getting and bad weather. I don't want someone hitting their shopping cart on my aluminum bodied Nissan Z. Aluminum is weak and dents easily.

Think about this for a minute. If a car that weighs 4,000 pounds with a 332 horsepower V6 engine is overheating even though it is running as designed; This goes to show that someone is driving too fast for even the best driving conditions of dry roads, daylight and 100% visibility. Just drive normally and the oil temperature will stay within normal limits.

You get what you pay for. This is no Porsche 911. But it is still a fine car. You treat the car right and the car will treat you right.

If you want to drive faster than 80mph you should just get an airplane and learn to fly.

If you're not gonna go over 80mph save your money, perhaps a versa would be a better buy? :confused:

alan93rsa 11-17-2009 06:19 PM

I've found that every car I have owned, quite a few, that each has some issue. I was willing to deal with some of those issues more than others.

KillerBee370 11-17-2009 09:55 PM

In other news.. I just found a nickel under my cushion.
























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ChrisSlicks 11-17-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 285028)
In other news.. I just found a nickel under my cushion.

:rofl2:

rmhockman 11-18-2009 10:26 AM

I totally agree with you on the oil temperature issues, my 370z touring model w/o sport option runs just fine afterr 8000+ miles of pleasure driving in the mountains of Pennsylvania..

I have never seen oil temps. above 250 even while driving up long mountain grades in 80 deg. temperatures. I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

avitech 11-18-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 284035)
The guy drives an 82 Mercedes diesel. He gets ticketed constantly for driving too slowly, warnings for contributing more to global warming than Exxon-Mobil, chicks won't date him and he's pissed.

Well that's a huge assumption that you just made about somebody whom you had never met before and whom you know absolutely nothing about.

This newsgroup is for discussing how much we love the new 370Z. It wasn't created to give anybody a hard time.

:excited:

semtex 11-18-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 285755)
Well that's a huge assumption that you just made about somebody whom you had never met before and whom you know absolutely nothing about.

This newsgroup is for discussing how much we love the new 370Z. It wasn't created to give anybody a hard time.

:excited:

Oh really, it's not for giving anybody a hard time? Then what do you call this?

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 283636)
About the shift knob and the girl. Well, some of us have grown up already and middle school was too long ago. Not everyone remains wet behind the ear. It's a maturity thing. This website wasn't created to talk about women anyway. The main topic of discussion is this legendary Nissan 370Z. And what are our plans for such a fine automobile.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...tml#post283636

Do you call that being friendly? Because I think it falls closer to the 'giving someone a hard time' category. It also seems to me that you were making a huge assumption about somebody you've never met before and know absolutely nothing about.

vipor 11-18-2009 01:51 PM

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Modshack 11-18-2009 02:03 PM

:owned:

TX_370 11-18-2009 02:34 PM

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FuszNissan 11-18-2009 02:35 PM

:inoutroflpuke::inoutroflpuke:

avitech 11-18-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rmhockman (Post 285500)
I totally agree with you on the oil temperature issues, my 370z touring model w/o sport option runs just fine afterr 8000+ miles of pleasure driving in the mountains of Pennsylvania..

I have never seen oil temps. above 250 even while driving up long mountain grades in 80 deg. temperatures. I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

You hit it right on the nail. The Nissan 370Z was perfectly well engineered by mechanical, electrical, and electronic engineers why have their Masters Degrees and Ph Ds. On top of that these same engineers are Japanese who have a reputation for always doing excellent work. If the 332 HP V6 on a 3,300 pound car is overheating even though everything is working as designed, then it is not the engine; it is the driver. Everything overheats if it is overworked. In this case, it is no different.
:tup:

antennahead 11-18-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avitech (Post 285969)
You hit it right on the nail. The Nissan 370Z was perfectly well engineered by mechanical, electrical, and electronic engineers why have their Masters Degrees and Ph Ds. On top of that these same engineers are Japanese who have a reputation for always doing excellent work. If the 332 HP V6 on a 4,000 pound car is overheating even though everything is working as designed, then it is not the engine; it is the driver. Everything overheats if it is overworked. In this case, it is no different.
:tup:

Oh yea, and my 2006 350 oil consumption car, was driver fault as well..... including all the other '06 drivers with the same issue being at fault too. And by the way numb nuts, the Z is NOT a 4000 pound car :roflpuke2:

Trips 11-18-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 286146)
Oh yea, and my 2006 350 oil consumption car, was driver fault as well..... including all the other '06 drivers with the same issue being at fault too. And by the way numb nuts, the Z is NOT a 4000 pound car :roflpuke2:

:bowrofl::roflpuke2:

phelan 11-18-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 286146)
Oh yea, and my 2006 350 oil consumption car, was driver fault as well..... including all the other '06 drivers with the same issue being at fault too. And by the way numb nuts, the Z is NOT a 4000 pound car :roflpuke2:

round up.

...


waaaaaaaaaay up. :tup:

PyroCustoms 11-18-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 283628)
These are some really wreckless speeds that are unsafe for public roads and it puts many many innocent lives in danger.

Tell that to Brock Yates and all the people who race One Lap of America and the original Cannon Ballers....I completely disagree with your statement and agree with Brock Sr. and Jr., those speeds become unsafe when they are done in shitty cars or by shitty inexperience drivers.

avitech 11-18-2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 286146)
Oh yea, and my 2006 350 oil consumption car, was driver fault as well..... including all the other '06 drivers with the same issue being at fault too. And by the way numb nuts, the Z is NOT a 4000 pound car :roflpuke2:

That's right! It's a 3,300 pound car or less! What's the point of bringing this up? It doesn't help to prove your point, it only helps further enhance my own. The less the sports car weighs, the more I'm right that the car seriously shouldn't be overheating so long as everything is operating as designed and that the driver isn't outright flogging their engine. You should learn to lighten up. You're just like Lieutenant Tuvok in "Star Trek Voyager". With Captain Kathrine Janeway marooned in the Delta quadrant.

:eek:

PyroCustoms 11-19-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 286625)
That's right! It's a 3,300 pound car or less! What's the point of bringing this up? It doesn't help to prove your point, it only helps further enhance my own. The less the sports car weighs, the more I'm right that the car seriously shouldn't be overheating so long as everything is operating as designed and that the driver isn't outright flogging their engine. You should learn to lighten up. You're just like Lieutenant Tuvok in "Star Trek Voyager". With Captain Kathrine Janeway marooned in the Delta quadrant.

:eek:

Yet you still drive an '82 300SD MB....

370Zsteve 11-19-2009 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 285781)
Oh really, it's not for giving anybody a hard time? Then what do you call this?


http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...tml#post283636

Do you call that being friendly? Because I think it falls closer to the 'giving someone a hard time' category. It also seems to me that you were making a huge assumption about somebody you've never met before and know absolutely nothing about.

Semtex, that was well said. And quite frankly it was the only reason I even bothered replying to this guy. Quite opinionated, isn't he?

370Zsteve 11-19-2009 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 284057)
My quotes barely moved when I went from a Scion to a Z and actually went up when I was quoted for both a G37 and 135i.

From a Scion? That's just not right. I mean, for you it is very right :tup:. It's just "not right".

370Zsteve 11-19-2009 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rmhockman (Post 285500)
I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

Haha, do you read these forums? Have you seen the MODS.

And they do come cheap...the 370Z is quite a bang for the buck. :icon17:

ricky bobby 11-19-2009 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PyroCustoms (Post 286650)
Yet you still drive an '82 300SD MB....

i suggested earlier that avitech should buy a versa he said not to drive over 80mph

Matt 11-19-2009 05:39 AM

I'm driven my Nismo pretty hard and have yet to see temps above 220. Now, I haven't spent 20+ minutes straight above 5k RPMs, but I'm not sure there's a place for that type of driving unless you're on the track, in which case shouldn't you have an oil cooler anyways?

Reading through this thread, I'm confused... Seeing a thread called "oil temp issues" with so many replies made me think there may be a problem. Reading through the thread only makes me feel better, seeing as so many people have no issues while driving normal.

Or am I way off?

ricky bobby 11-19-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 286760)
I'm driven my Nismo pretty hard and have yet to see temps above 220. Now, I haven't spent 20+ minutes straight above 5k RPMs, but I'm not sure there's a place for that type of driving unless you're on the track, in which case shouldn't you have an oil cooler anyways?

Reading through this thread, I'm confused... Seeing a thread called "oil temp issues" with so many replies made me think there may be a problem. Reading through the thread only makes me feel better, seeing as so many people have no issues while driving normal.

Or am I way off?

Driving normal my oil temp stays under 220. But as soon as i put in fresh oil and start with the aggresive driving it gets close to 260. I agree with an oil cooler for the track but people are saying that nissan says adding the cooler will void the warranty:driving:

antennahead 11-19-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avitech (Post 286625)
That's right! It's a 3,300 pound car or less! What's the point of bringing this up? It doesn't help to prove your point, it only helps further enhance my own. The less the sports car weighs, the more I'm right that the car seriously shouldn't be overheating so long as everything is operating as designed and that the driver isn't outright flogging their engine. You should learn to lighten up. You're just like Lieutenant Tuvok in "Star Trek Voyager". With Captain Kathrine Janeway marooned in the Delta quadrant.

:eek:

..........and you're just like most of the other trolls here who don't own a 370 but "think" they are God's gift to the membership, enlightening us with your "perceived" knowledge. Love the Star Trek analogies BTW :rolleyes:

kdo2milger 11-19-2009 08:13 AM

um....where exactly are you deriving this wealth of invaluable knowledge that you seem to think you have?

unless you were actually on the design team for the 2009 370z, or had access to proprietary information, or an engineer in the development of the 370z, what are you basing your opinions off of?

this thread is full of real world user data on the 370z, so when you bring yourself into the middle of a conversation you obviously know nothing of, and start spewing useless self known jibberish based off of what i do not know, nor do i care to know...you have basically put your foot in your mouth...

oh and i have teetered on the borderline of over heating oil temps just sitting in day to day traffic...

so i suppose that is my fault for driving to/from work...i guess i should just park my z and walk so i dont abuse my car :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by avitech (Post 286625)
That's right! It's a 3,300 pound car or less! What's the point of bringing this up? It doesn't help to prove your point, it only helps further enhance my own. The less the sports car weighs, the more I'm right that the car seriously shouldn't be overheating so long as everything is operating as designed and that the driver isn't outright flogging their engine. You should learn to lighten up. You're just like Lieutenant Tuvok in "Star Trek Voyager". With Captain Kathrine Janeway marooned in the Delta quadrant.

:eek:


avitech 11-19-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 286829)
um....where exactly are you deriving this wealth of invaluable knowledge that you seem to think you have?

unless you were actually on the design team for the 2009 370z, or had access to proprietary information, or an engineer in the development of the 370z, what are you basing your opinions off of?

this thread is full of real world user data on the 370z, so when you bring yourself into the middle of a conversation you obviously know nothing of, and start spewing useless self known jibberish based off of what i do not know, nor do i care to know...you have basically put your foot in your mouth...

oh and i have teetered on the borderline of over heating oil temps just sitting in day to day traffic...

so i suppose that is my fault for driving to/from work...i guess i should just park my z and walk so i dont abuse my car :rolleyes:


So, what do you think is causing your excessive oil temperature? Firstly, do you know for sure that the temp gauge is even correct? Try measuring the temperature using a hand held device with a laser. Check the temperature at the oil pan and all along the radiator hoses and engine block when it is overheating. This should strengthen your case for litigation should it ever come to that.

The temperature gauge could be improperly calibrated.

Other things that cause high temperatures is lean air/fuel ratios, malfunctioning engine management sensors, engine blow-by, using the incorrect grade of fuel, etc.

avitech 11-19-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 286772)
..........and you're just like most of the other trolls here who don't own a 370 but "think" they are God's gift to the membership, enlightening us with your "perceived" knowledge. Love the Star Trek analogies BTW :rolleyes:


I'm glade you liked it! I see that you live in Charleston South Carolina. Home of the Citadel. Why don't you take your Nissan Z to your downtown parking garage that has absolutely NO handy cap/disabled parking on the upper levels with no elevator. And from there you can have lunch at Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. Restaurant. :rofl2:

Modshack 11-19-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 287027)
I'm glade you liked it! I see that you live in Charleston South Carolina. Home of the Citadel. Why don't you take your Nissan Z to your downtown parking garage that has absolutely NO handy cap/disabled parking on the upper levels with no elevator. And from there you can have lunch at Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. Restaurant. :rofl2:

A Troll AND a showoff....nice! We're all very impressed.

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Robert_Nash 11-19-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 287027)
I'm glade you liked it! I see that you live in Charleston South Carolina. Home of the Citadel. Why don't you take your Nissan Z to your downtown parking garage that has absolutely NO handy cap/disabled parking on the upper levels with no elevator. And from there you can have lunch at Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. Restaurant. :rofl2:

:icon18:

I lived in Charleston for nearly four years (stationed there) and loved it.

The Citadel is a great institution.

Most mobility impaired folks in Charleston are probably smart enough to not park on the upper levels of a parking garage (hence, no need for handicapped parking spaces or an elevator).

Perhaps you are a mobility impaired moron who was denied entry to the Citadel (can't imagine why) and aren't smart enough (big surprise) to park on the first level of a parking garage so that you don't need to use an elevator.

antennahead 11-19-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 287027)
I'm glade you liked it! I see that you live in Charleston South Carolina. Home of the Citadel. Why don't you take your Nissan Z to your downtown parking garage that has absolutely NO handy cap/disabled parking on the upper levels with no elevator. And from there you can have lunch at Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. Restaurant. :rofl2:

Oh, so now you want to slam Charleston, the South, the Citadel, and indirectly the military? You are an opinionated piece of sh!t. You come here with no Z, and write "opinions" about things that you have ZERO first hand experience with........ spewing your "conjecture" about how "Japanese engineers are Gods".......... "if the Z is running hot it is driver error" .............. "anyone who drives over 80MPH is reckless and a danger to society". When/if you ever purchase a Z, troll, drive it in some real world conditions, assuming you can mangage that, then report back with some actual first hand knowledge, not your second hand BS. Only fools go into a forum as a new member, then start spouting off opinions as if they are experienced based fact, attack the existing membership, then wonder "what did I do to turn everyone against me?" You really know how to make friends and influence people ................ I bet you make your mother proud.

antennahead 11-19-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 287342)
:icon18:

I lived in Charleston for nearly four years (stationed there) and loved it.

The Citadel is a great institution.

Most mobility impaired folks in Charleston are probably smart enough to not park on the upper levels of a parking garage (hence, no need for handicapped parking spaces or an elevator).

Perhaps you are a mobility impaired moron who was denied entry to the Citadel (can't imagine why) and aren't smart enough (big surprise) to park on the first level of a parking garage so that you don't need to use an elevator.



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