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JARblue 01-17-2015 10:45 PM

Just follow the FSM for transmission removal. There's a variety of sensors, some of which can be a pain. Pretty straightforward all things considered. It just takes a while.

Rangerz 01-17-2015 11:05 PM

Look up DJ Todds DIY it was helpful when I did mine. Cranck sensor bolt is the hardest to get at mark your drive shaft flages so it goes back the same as you took it off. The transmission is actualy pretty light about 80 lbs or so. I rented a puller from autozone...I had to file the back side of the fingers slightly to get it to go in. FYI the fluwheel bolt are a #40 star bit I think, star bit for sure that size may be off. Have a good torque wrench available take your time and have fun. It not that bad just takes some time to take off all the crap to get at what you need.

Z Love 01-18-2015 03:19 PM

I just got my 370z and every time I revers I hear the clutch sputter what can it be from?

Zoren 370 01-18-2015 03:47 PM

You mean chutter...That is normal my Love.

luigi90210 04-29-2015 09:11 AM

Does the 2015 Nismo 6MT have the same issue.

I'm almost 100% sure it does but I'd thought I'd double check here before giving my friend bad info.

JARblue 04-29-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 3182457)
Does the 2015 Nismo 6MT have the same issue.

I'm almost 100% sure it does but I'd thought I'd double check here before giving my friend bad info.

Yup. Same crappy OEM CSC with plastic internals :ugh2:

R3drckt09 04-30-2015 06:54 AM

So my CSC just went out when I pulled in to work, pedal sank to the floor and didn't come back. I'm totally comfortable replacing the CSC and probably a new clutch in my driveway, but is there any quick fix so I can get it home without paying for a tow? It's about 15 miles from my house

MagmaRed370z 04-30-2015 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z Love (Post 3085122)
I just got my 370z and every time I revers I hear the clutch sputter what can it be from?

Normal 370z behavior.

Spooler 04-30-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3drckt09 (Post 3183636)
So my CSC just went out when I pulled in to work, pedal sank to the floor and didn't come back. I'm totally comfortable replacing the CSC and probably a new clutch in my driveway, but is there any quick fix so I can get it home without paying for a tow? It's about 15 miles from my house

You can try to bleed it and see what happens.

MagmaRed370z 04-30-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by R3drckt09 (Post 3183636)
So my CSC just went out when I pulled in to work, pedal sank to the floor and didn't come back. I'm totally comfortable replacing the CSC and probably a new clutch in my driveway, but is there any quick fix so I can get it home without paying for a tow? It's about 15 miles from my house


Just forced it back up. I read that this (sometimes) will let you drive it until you replaced it asap. Also how many miles do you currently have?

Zbrah 04-30-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3183983)
Just forced it back up. I read that this (sometimes) will let you drive it until you replaced it asap. Also how many miles do you currently have?

I was thinking maybe tying a rope on the clutch pedal, that way you can pull it back into position between shifts :icon17:

MJB 04-30-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3drckt09 (Post 3183636)
So my CSC just went out when I pulled in to work, pedal sank to the floor and didn't come back. I'm totally comfortable replacing the CSC and probably a new clutch in my driveway, but is there any quick fix so I can get it home without paying for a tow? It's about 15 miles from my house

Just try pumping the pedal a few times to hopefully build up some pressure. Check your reservoir to see if you still have fluid.

eastwest2300 04-30-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by R3drckt09 (Post 3183636)
So my CSC just went out when I pulled in to work, pedal sank to the floor and didn't come back. I'm totally comfortable replacing the CSC and probably a new clutch in my driveway, but is there any quick fix so I can get it home without paying for a tow? It's about 15 miles from my house

dude, thats fricken crazy. Im sorry bro.

MagmaRed370z 04-30-2015 01:27 PM

At how many miles do CSCs tend to fail?

johnwiki 04-30-2015 03:13 PM

Sorry to hear that. Mine failed at about 60,000. And I would be careful driving it. When mine went out I couldnt really get it into gear. After it sat all day I got a little pressure back and was able to drive it to the dealership (roughly 10 is miles away).

johnwiki 05-06-2015 08:01 PM

Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but my clutch failed out on me again. This time they said they called the nissan tech line and they are replacing the line that goes between the slave and master cylinders (clutchline) then theyre going to bleed and see what happens. Anyone else have a similar story?

JARblue 05-07-2015 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by johnwiki (Post 3190581)
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but my clutch failed out on me again. This time they said they called the nissan tech line and they are replacing the line that goes between the slave and master cylinders (clutchline) then theyre going to bleed and see what happens. Anyone else have a similar story?

Sounds like typical dealer :bs: :rolleyes:

Was the CMC replaced the last time they did the CSC? If not, that likely your culprit. If so, one or the other may have failed again. It wouldn't be the first time.

jwick 05-07-2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3190986)
Sounds like typical dealer :bs: :rolleyes:

Was the CMC replaced the last time they did the CSC? If not, that likely your culprit. If so, one or the other may have failed again. It wouldn't be the first time.

Yup. Apparently our CMC are a one use item. Drop the tranny and have to drain the system and it's basically trash.

johnwiki 05-07-2015 10:43 AM

This is the third time its been to the dealer. The first time was for the CSC and they didnt replace the CMC. the second time was like 8 months later for the CMC and they replaced that first, said it wasnt holding pressure right, then replaced the CSC again and said it was being right but they bled the system and it was good. A month later (last sunday) the clutch bottomed out on me again and now theyre replacing the clutchline.

Zbrah 05-07-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by johnwiki (Post 3191241)
This is the third time its been to the dealer. The first time was for the CSC and they didnt replace the CMC. the second time was like 8 months later for the CMC and they replaced that first, said it wasnt holding pressure right, then replaced the CSC again and said it was being right but they bled the system and it was good. A month later (last sunday) the clutch bottomed out on me again and now theyre replacing the clutchline.

Which dealer has been doing the work and was all three attempts covered under warranty? You should pick up the Zspeed HD csc and a new cmc.
ZSpeed Performance Replacment HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit

johnwiki 05-07-2015 07:27 PM

The dealer is Mossy Nissan Kearny Messa, and I only paid for the initial replace of the parts, so one slave and one master. After that whatever they replace is covered under their parts warranty. And they arent charging me for the clutchline.

darkphantom 05-08-2015 04:41 PM

Would the dealer install the the aftermarket part if you brought it to them?

JARblue 05-08-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom (Post 3192512)
Would the dealer install the the aftermarket part if you brought it to them?

Some dealers have, yes. They are in the minority. I doubt any of the ones in Austin will. But there might be different staff/ownership since I was last inquiring about things like that. You will need to call and ask.

If you're not having warranty stuff done, I recommend not using a Nissan dealer for the work. I've heard H&R is good for body stuff. I like Austin Z Clinic for mechanical stuff.

jwick 05-08-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkphantom (Post 3192512)
Would the dealer install the the aftermarket part if you brought it to them?


Highly unlikely if they are doing warranty work with they install a non OEM replacement. When the dealer replaced my CSC I had to jump thru hopes to get them to use the synthetic fluid I brought them over Nissan fluid.

johnwiki 05-08-2015 05:59 PM

This is in Cali. And this dealer might do it, the first time they had to do the csc they asked me if i had any clutch or anything I wanted to put in since they were gonna have the tranny down.

nis350 05-08-2015 11:55 PM

This is crazy... even parts from pepboys last longer....

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwiki (Post 3191241)
This is the third time its been to the dealer. The first time was for the CSC and they didnt replace the CMC. the second time was like 8 months later for the CMC and they replaced that first, said it wasnt holding pressure right, then replaced the CSC again and said it was being right but they bled the system and it was good. A month later (last sunday) the clutch bottomed out on me again and now theyre replacing the clutchline.


GeauxTigers1 05-09-2015 01:46 AM

Has nissan upgraded this in any way with the newer models or is this still an issue even on the '15s? Asked my shop and he said the newer models shouldn't have this problem, but I'm a bit wary of it. Figure they fixed the oil temp issue, why not this, but I could be wrong.

jwick 05-09-2015 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3192836)
Has nissan upgraded this in any way with the newer models or is this still an issue even on the '15s? Asked my shop and he said the newer models shouldn't have this problem, but I'm a bit wary of it. Figure they fixed the oil temp issue, why not this, but I could be wrong.


I don't know of any upgrades. This problem has been going on since the 350/G35 days when they went to this design.

blackcherry20 05-11-2015 07:03 PM

I just completed a Nissan owner survey and made several notes related to this issue.
1-they should be using a higher quality part
2-they shouldn't make owners w warranties jump through hoops to get it replaced. Smh.

Jsolo 05-17-2015 01:44 PM

Considering how wide spread this problem is, I'm surprised nissan hasn't issued a proper fix for this. I hope anyone that experiences this issue logs a complaint with the ntsb. Most definitely a safety issue. Not a question of if it'll fail but when.

For those who've experienced the failure, does the fluid leaking from the slave ever reach the friction disc? If it does, good way to force a clutch replacement under warranty (assuming the csc fails while still covered).

darkphantom 05-18-2015 09:30 AM

Can we sign a petition or get something started for Nissan to address this issue? Not sure if there is one that exists.

radensb 05-18-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3192549)
Highly unlikely if they are doing warranty work with they install a non OEM replacement. When the dealer replaced my CSC I had to jump thru hopes to get them to use the synthetic fluid I brought them over Nissan fluid.

My dealer did this for me without any issues. They know the OEM part is crap. I bought the zSpeed unit. Even their techs commented about the quality of the part and wanted me to keep them informed about how I liked it. They said that when the test drove my car after the repair they were surprised at how well the clutch felt.

Nissan tech via my service adviser - "He has never felt the clutch on these cars feel so solid". I think that says it all. Cant hurt to ask them.

Zbrah 05-18-2015 01:54 PM

^ mind sharing which dealership you took it to?

eastwest2300 05-19-2015 09:29 AM

Im a couple weeks away from buying a new flywheel and southbend stage 2 clutch from zspeed, I figured I would being that I'll be replacing my CSC & CMC on my 2010, why not do it all at the same time.

MagmaRed370z 05-20-2015 10:09 AM

Does anybody know if the 2014 - 2015 models have any kind of new or improved CSC?

Uxi 05-21-2015 10:43 AM

Doesn't sound like it.

This morning noticed sticking all the way to work. Almost seems like a detent or something since it pops up if I nudge it with my foot. Only about 1900 miles. Never launched or anything like that and only just recently started driving a bit more aggressive since break in recently ended.

MagmaRed370z 05-21-2015 12:28 PM

its seems almost unbelievable that this is a known issue and Nissan hasn't bother to improve it or fix it for the newer models.

eastwest2300 05-21-2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi (Post 3205061)
Doesn't sound like it.

This morning noticed sticking all the way to work. Almost seems like a detent or something since it pops up if I nudge it with my foot. Only about 1900 miles. Never launched or anything like that and only just recently started driving a bit more aggressive since break in recently ended.

damn, thats sh1tty man.. im sorry bro.

Uxi 05-21-2015 12:40 PM

Notice I have no fluid in the resovoir though was pumping the clutch with it off. Will definitely take it in to see if there's leaks or something

eastwest2300 05-21-2015 12:49 PM

ah bro, that sounds like a CSC failure, the good thing is, you're still under warranty.


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