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jwick 04-02-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3157394)
Who buys a sports car to drag race?

:iagree:

Buy a pony car if you want to just line it up at the light

ayrton88 04-02-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3157494)
:iagree:

Buy a pony car if you want to just line it up at the light

Exactly. A sports car is supposed to be all about cornering and agility. Straight line speed is really pretty irrelevant. Look at the great British sports cars, like Triumphs and MGs. They didn't have even 100 HP but were a total blast on the twisties. Buying a sports car to drag race is bringing the wrong tool to the job. How many F1 cars do you see at a drag strip?

FPenvy 04-02-2015 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3157568)
Exactly. A sports car is supposed to be all about cornering and agility. Straight line speed is really pretty irrelevant. Look at the great British sports cars, like Triumphs and MGs. They didn't have even 100 HP but were a total blast on the twisties. Buying a sports car to drag race is bringing the wrong tool to the job. How many F1 cars do you see at a drag strip?

that would be kinda cool to see though

Tadpole 04-02-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Datsun240Z71 (Post 3157400)
Do drag racers dress in drag?

No. You manual homotards do. :icon18:

Tadpole 04-02-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3157394)
Who buys a sports car to drag race?

Kinda funny but our little 6 cylinder sports cars do very well out there Especially with the automatics.

Give it a try. You may turn hetro after a few passes. :nutswinger:

Bulletz4break 04-02-2015 07:50 PM

"Now in its sixth generation, Nissan’s iconic Z is a pleasing package of power and handling. It has one of the best V-6 engines in the business and a six-speed manual transmission with available rev-matching. The automatic, however, is not a willing partner in spirited driving, with slow shifts that detract from the fun." Quote from Car and Driver.

jwick 04-02-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3158020)
"Now in its sixth generation, Nissan’s iconic Z is a pleasing package of power and handling. It has one of the best V-6 engines in the business and a six-speed manual transmission with available rev-matching. The automatic, however, is not a willing partner in spirited driving, with slow shifts that detract from the fun." Quote from Car and Driver.


Sounds like the guys at C&D are real men :tup:

Tadpole 04-02-2015 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3158030)
Sounds like the guys at C&D are raining men :tup:

Fixed it for you!

Bulletz4break 04-02-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3158030)
Sounds like the guys at C&D are real men :tup:

No doubt! It actually takes skill to shift a manual transmission smoothly and quickly. I don't need the car to do it for me. Been doing it all my life.

critical 04-02-2015 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3157987)
Kinda funny but our little 6 cylinder sports cars do very well out there Especially with the automatics.

Give it a try. You may turn hetro after a few passes. :nutswinger:

yeah it's pretty fun. there's nothing that says you can't be fast in the corners and in a straight line.

i've done pretty well against muscle cars in the 1/8th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjrRC_Ilafc

Tigger 04-03-2015 06:20 AM

BJ in an auto - no problem
BJ in a manual - could spell trouble.

Tadpole 04-03-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3157568)
Exactly. A sports car is supposed to be all about cornering and agility. Straight line speed is really pretty irrelevant. Look at the great British sports cars, like Triumphs and MGs. They didn't have even 100 HP but were a total blast on the twisties. Buying a sports car to drag race is bringing the wrong tool to the job. How many F1 cars do you see at a drag strip?

How many F1's haul *** in the straights?
Where are the MG's and Triumphs now?
100 hp is still gutless no matter how good the twisties are.
The Z is very competitive quarter mile, auto cross, and track so rethink about the tool. It just may be the tool behind the drivers seat that's holding the Z back.

Tigger 04-03-2015 09:56 AM

"The only nut that needs tightening is the nut behind the wheel." - forget who said it but it is a great quote.

Jordo! 04-03-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3158020)
"Now in its sixth generation, Nissan’s iconic Z is a pleasing package of power and handling. It has one of the best V-6 engines in the business and a six-speed manual transmission with available rev-matching. The automatic, however, is not a willing partner in spirited driving, with slow shifts that detract from the fun." Quote from Car and Driver.

There's more to this...

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Originally Posted by C&D
Before we go on, we should note that, back in 2009, we tested a 370Z automatic and we didn’t hate it, calling its manual shifts “lightning-quick” and recording an even quicker zero-to-60 time than we did with the manual. But “lightning-quick” by 2009 standards is less so next to today’s intuitive and instantly responsive dual-clutchers.

From 2015 Nissan 370Z NISMO Automatic First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

In other words, personal preferences for a clutch pedal notwithstanding, they're arguing it isn't as quick as a PDK.

Ok... :ugh2:

Similarly, they make reference to the "...hero-making SyncroRev rev-matching technology (which, of course, is defeatable for actual heroes)," indicating that only sopping wet, large labiaed vaginas would ever have the rev match turned on. Of course, those walking menstru-bots would at least secrete more testosterone than anyone with a quintessentially girly automatic.

Also, they claim a 0-60 for the Nismo 7AT of 4.6 (.1 sec faster than the 2009 auto, incidentally), but I didn't see a comparison with the MT, so... :confused:

Anyway, my guess is that even if they verified that the 7AT was faster than the 6MT, they would have made the same case in support of the MT because: Engaged; thing in hand; left foot moves. And so on.

Bulletz4break 04-03-2015 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3159041)
There's more to this...



From 2015 Nissan 370Z NISMO Automatic First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

In other words, personal preferences for a clutch pedal notwithstanding, they're arguing it isn't as quick as a PDK.

Ok... :ugh2:

Similarly, they make reference to the "...hero-making SyncroRev rev-matching technology (which, of course, is defeatable for actual heroes)," indicating that only sopping wet, large labiaed vaginas would ever have the rev match turned on. Of course, those walking menstru-bots would at least secrete more testosterone than anyone with a quintessentially girly automatic.

Also, they claim a 0-60 for the Nismo 7AT of 4.6 (.1 sec faster than the 2009 auto, incidentally), but I didn't see a comparison with the MT, so... :confused:

Anyway, my guess is that even if they verified that the 7AT was faster than the 6MT, they would have made the same case in support of the MT because: Engaged; thing in hand; left foot moves. And so on.

I always turn off my SyncroRev, but I also inject 800mg of Testosterone weekly. Only big viginas drive automatic sports cars. Do you automatic guys even LIFT?


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