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370zBLAST 08-07-2018 05:22 PM

Automatic are only faster in todays cars cause they come with much more gears. Hellcat is what a 10spd automatic but is manual brother is a 6spd, corvette is what a 8spd automatic vs its manual brother which is a 7spd, people are forgeting that! Different gear ratio is all that makes a world of a difference. But im sure if you put the same amount of gear ratio in a auto vs manual....itll come down to great driver! Just my .02cent

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*J*ap***V*et* 08-07-2018 06:34 PM

I'm at the age now that the drivetrain doesn't matter. It did when we were all teens in the early 2000s because the manuals were just that much quicker. Since the gap jas closed considerably I (personal opinion) have no interest shifting gears. I don't feel any more or less engaged and have owned manuals too, just got lazy I guess lmao....I do however think that the manual shouldn't be fazed out and in most cases it is more reliable and can handle power mods better. I don't mind my Z being auto, had everything I eas looking for at the mileage and price that I wanted to pay..but in any case I still feel long live the manual!!! Lol

radix023 08-07-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et* (Post 3777402)
I'm at the age now that the drivetrain doesn't matter. It did when we were all teens in the early 2000s because the manuals were just that much quicker. Since the gap jas closed considerably I (personal opinion) have no interest shifting gears. I don't feel any more or less engaged and have owned manuals too, just got lazy I guess lmao....I do however think that the manual shouldn't be fazed out and in most cases it is more reliable and can handle power mods better. I don't mind my Z being auto, had everything I eas looking for at the mileage and price that I wanted to pay..but in any case I still feel long live the manual!!! Lol

I think those are honorable sentiments but we were not all teens in the early 2000s my Zbrother. :)

redondoaveb 08-07-2018 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by radix023 (Post 3777431)
I think those are honorable sentiments but we were not all teens in the early 2000s my Zbrother. :)

Some of us weren't even teens in the '80's. :rofl2:

*J*ap***V*et* 08-07-2018 10:15 PM

Lmao...thats why I love this forum! Can have a fair debate without a bunch of hurt ******* lol. At the end of the day we all love cars...and I'll be honest you don't have to have a manual to just go to the track...most of the racing I've seen has honestly been on the street I hate to say. Take my dad for example, he prefers manual but won't hesitate to mash the gas on an auto..albiet a swift one hahahaha

Baronsmokes 08-08-2018 09:03 AM

I was surprised when I came on forum.
The big debate about manual an automatic.I grew up in a time when everyone drove sticks.I just assumed everyone could drive a manual.Drove truck for a lot of years.Non synchronized 15 speed transmission is a whole other ball game.I have a level10 automatic in my Z.Shifts fast.Have other cars with a stick.Manuals are fun to drive but automatics have overtaken them.
We will have another debate in future as people move from internal combustion engines to electric motors.

FPenvy 08-08-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3777076)
How'd I'd know this would turn into an auto vs manual thread? :confused::icon17:

:stirthepot:

this is like my batsignal

:drama:

mishuko 08-08-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3777529)
:stirthepot:

this is like my batsignal

:drama:

But signal???

FPenvy 08-08-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3777532)
But signal???

no no thats when little asian pieces of man meat like yourself come around :yum:

zaileion 09-10-2018 02:46 PM

I own a manual Z that had a bad bushing. The dealership gave me an automatic Maxima loaner which I've had for several days. The automatic is easier but less control. For example, if I want to drop 2 gears and pop the clutch to chirp 3rd to piss off the camaro next to me or instigate a race I wouldnt' be able to do that on paddle shifters or manually shifting the automatic (like I have to do in this Maxima). Next its sequential shifting. if I want to go from 7th to 5th I have to go through 6th 1st.

The manual while requires lots of clutch riding in stop and go traffic I am in control of the trans not a computer. I can go from 4th to 6th if I choose without having to switch through 5th 1st. Or I can downshift and control the release of the clutch for clutch breaking. The automatic does not have this ability. You can down shift but there is no clutch. I'll elaborate a bit more. Sometimes I come off the highway at 80 or so. I'll shift from 6th to 3rd and slowly let the clutch out with a little break mixed in to slowly ease up to the bottom of the exit ramp. I may repress and then release the clutch while in 3rd a few times also. This helps keep by breaks cool, reduces wear and tare on the breaking system etc... Cannot be done in an automatic. Next, if you are really hitting the throttle in traffic (breaking all kinds of traffic violations) racing some one in a Subaru or something else and you need to stop fast, like real fast because of traffic you are approaching at 130+ mph, the downshifting is a great addition to the breaks. DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME OBVIOUSLY! and too far of a down shift step when at such a high rate of speed can cause your rear end to break free. BE CAREFUL!

If you want control and you want to downshift (i use breaks as a 2nd option) than automatic is not so great but if you are looking for a sports car that's easy to drive with the convenience of 2 peddles and one hand than automatic is right for you.

IMO... Ill never drive an automatic sports car. A work truck, or a family SUV sure... a sports car? uhhh. No!

JARblue 09-10-2018 03:02 PM

You should really learn how to operate the clutch properly; you should never be riding it like that. Not to mention that brakes are a hell of lot cheaper (both parts and labor) to replace compared to the clutch.

Also it is against forum rules to discuss street racing, so you should probably watch what you post in that regard...

FPenvy 09-10-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zaileion (Post 3784486)
I own a manual Z that had a bad bushing. The dealership gave me an automatic Maxima loaner which I've had for several days. The automatic is easier but less control. For example, if I want to drop 2 gears and pop the clutch to chirp 3rd to piss off the camaro next to me or instigate a race I wouldnt' be able to do that on paddle shifters or manually shifting the automatic (like I have to do in this Maxima). Next its sequential shifting. if I want to go from 7th to 5th I have to go through 6th 1st.

The manual while requires lots of clutch riding in stop and go traffic I am in control of the trans not a computer. I can go from 4th to 6th if I choose without having to switch through 5th 1st. Or I can downshift and control the release of the clutch for clutch breaking. The automatic does not have this ability. You can down shift but there is no clutch. I'll elaborate a bit more. Sometimes I come off the highway at 80 or so. I'll shift from 6th to 3rd and slowly let the clutch out with a little break mixed in to slowly ease up to the bottom of the exit ramp. I may repress and then release the clutch while in 3rd a few times also. This helps keep by breaks cool, reduces wear and tare on the breaking system etc... Cannot be done in an automatic. Next, if you are really hitting the throttle in traffic (breaking all kinds of traffic violations) racing some one in a Subaru or something else and you need to stop fast, like real fast because of traffic you are approaching at 130+ mph, the downshifting is a great addition to the breaks. DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME OBVIOUSLY! and too far of a down shift step when at such a high rate of speed can cause your rear end to break free. BE CAREFUL!

If you want control and you want to downshift (i use breaks as a 2nd option) than automatic is not so great but if you are looking for a sports car that's easy to drive with the convenience of 2 peddles and one hand than automatic is right for you.

IMO... Ill never drive an automatic sports car. A work truck, or a family SUV sure... a sports car? uhhh. No!

..........are you trying to compare an auto maxima to what the auto Z would be?

also i agree with Jar good luck with riding the clutch that much or wait for the CSC to go out on you which it will (if it hasnt already).

sidenote brake pads are very cheap on a Z and how often are you hitting 130 between lights in traffic? i wanna go there.

your post makes zero sense and it's your first.

you wont be here long :tiphat:

sx moneypit 09-10-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784504)
..........are you trying to compare an auto maxima to what the auto Z would be?

also i agree with Jar good luck with riding the clutch that much or wait for the CSC to go out on you which it will (if it hasnt already).

sidenote brake pads are very cheap on a Z and how often are you hitting 130 between lights in traffic? i wanna go there.

your post makes zero sense and it's your first.

you wont be here long :tiphat:

:iagree:Needs to learn how to spell too.

LinPark 09-10-2018 05:04 PM

At least you are smart enough to only actually test the Subaru's, stick to just pissing off the Camaro's if you don't like disappointment (especially the automatic ones). :rofl2: :stirthepot:

CRiZO 09-10-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaileion (Post 3784486)
I own a manual Z that had a bad bushing. The dealership gave me an automatic Maxima loaner which I've had for several days. The automatic is easier but less control. For example, if I want to drop 2 gears and pop the clutch to chirp 3rd to piss off the camaro next to me or instigate a race I wouldnt' be able to do that on paddle shifters or manually shifting the automatic (like I have to do in this Maxima). Next its sequential shifting. if I want to go from 7th to 5th I have to go through 6th 1st.

The manual while requires lots of clutch riding in stop and go traffic I am in control of the trans not a computer. I can go from 4th to 6th if I choose without having to switch through 5th 1st. Or I can downshift and control the release of the clutch for clutch breaking. The automatic does not have this ability. You can down shift but there is no clutch. I'll elaborate a bit more. Sometimes I come off the highway at 80 or so. I'll shift from 6th to 3rd and slowly let the clutch out with a little break mixed in to slowly ease up to the bottom of the exit ramp. I may repress and then release the clutch while in 3rd a few times also. This helps keep by breaks cool, reduces wear and tare on the breaking system etc... Cannot be done in an automatic. Next, if you are really hitting the throttle in traffic (breaking all kinds of traffic violations) racing some one in a Subaru or something else and you need to stop fast, like real fast because of traffic you are approaching at 130+ mph, the downshifting is a great addition to the breaks. DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME OBVIOUSLY! and too far of a down shift step when at such a high rate of speed can cause your rear end to break free. BE CAREFUL!

If you want control and you want to downshift (i use breaks as a 2nd option) than automatic is not so great but if you are looking for a sports car that's easy to drive with the convenience of 2 peddles and one hand than automatic is right for you.

IMO... Ill never drive an automatic sports car. A work truck, or a family SUV sure... a sports car? uhhh. No!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

jwick 09-10-2018 07:23 PM

[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread
 
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Originally Posted by CRiZO (Post 3784551)


My favorite movie quote! I didn’t even have to watch it.

JARblue 09-10-2018 07:52 PM

Who in the fuck repped that moron?!? :mad: :shakes head:

Rusty 09-10-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3784609)
Who in the fuck repped that moron?!? :mad: :shakes head:

Wasn't me. My 24 hrs isn't up yet. :rofl2:

JARblue 09-10-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784621)
Wasn't me. My 24 hrs isn't up yet. :rofl2:

Lol you give out thousands of rep points for each rep. He's only got 23 rep, so it's someone with a lot fewer rep points.

Chuck33079 09-10-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3784625)
Lol you give out thousands of rep points for each rep. He's only got 23 rep, so it's someone with a lot fewer rep points.



He keeps it up, he’ll get a Darwin Award to go with the pity rep point. And the average IQ will slightly rise.


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Rusty 09-10-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3784625)
Lol you give out thousands of rep points for each rep. He's only got 23 rep, so it's someone with a lot fewer rep points.

I'm good for about 1,200 points for each rep. :eek:

VABAM 09-10-2018 09:52 PM

:wtf2:

FPenvy 09-11-2018 07:56 AM

dammit, where did my new play toy run off to? :shakes head:

Rusty 09-11-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784775)
dammit, where did my new play toy run off to? :shakes head:

Go back to playing with yourself again. :nutswinger:

FPenvy 09-11-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784836)
Go back to playing with yourself again. :nutswinger:

i do that all day anyways. i was trying to give the little guy a break :bowrofl:

Rusty 09-11-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784839)
i do that all day anyways. i was trying to give the little guy a break :bowrofl:

Bet it looks like hamburger by now.

Fuzzzy 09-11-2018 11:25 AM

I quit reading in the middle of the fourth sentence, but after seeing all the comments I just had to go back and read the entire thing.

Now I'm confused as to whom I should thank for all the giggles :confused:

FPenvy 09-11-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784842)
Bet it looks like hamburger by now.

cmon now.........you know it's just beat up Italian sausage.

Rusty 09-11-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784845)
cmon now.........you know it's just beat up Italian sausage.

With no spice. :rofl2:

FPenvy 09-11-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784856)
With no spice. :rofl2:

never heard you complain :nutswinger:

sx moneypit 09-11-2018 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784857)
never heard you complain :nutswinger:

:icon17:

Rusty 09-11-2018 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784857)
never heard you complain :nutswinger:

Never complain because you never have any sweet italian sausage.

FPenvy 09-11-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784886)
Never complain because you never have any sweet italian sausage.

well next ZdayZ ill have to pick some up for you :tiphat:

LinPark 09-11-2018 04:43 PM

Probably has 2 accounts and rep'ed himself!

Rusty 09-11-2018 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784892)
well next ZdayZ ill have to pick some up for you :tiphat:

I'll see if I can get some more WV moonshine. :yum: What flavor?

bunk 09-11-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784886)
Never complain because you never have any sweet italian sausage.

Please keep your preferences to yourself!! :roflpuke2:

Rusty 09-11-2018 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784886)
Never complain because you never have any sweet italian sausage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3784892)
well next ZdayZ ill have to pick some up for you :tiphat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784944)
I'll see if I can get some more WV moonshine. :yum: What flavor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3784989)
Please keep your preferences to yourself!! :roflpuke2:

What?............Apple moonshine and sweet italian sausage go together. :yum:

FPenvy 09-12-2018 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3784944)
I'll see if I can get some more WV moonshine. :yum: What flavor?

i'll take anything except grape..........unless its wine. thats ok lol

Rusty 09-13-2018 10:18 PM

Interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/LwzYuReq6Go

Thesmoke90 11-07-2018 01:43 PM

If anyone defines their masculinity by what transmission type they use (of all things on Earth), they should probably start playing some sports.


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