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Originally Posted by Jordo! There's a few threads on this (inlcuding a very lengthy one), but on the average it should be between 210*F and 220*F when fully warmed up

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Old 06-17-2010, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There's a few threads on this (inlcuding a very lengthy one), but on the average it should be between 210*F and 220*F when fully warmed up under moderate to high load. A bit less under lighter load.

If you start creeping up over 250*F, give it a chance to cool off a bit (i.e., drive and coast in high gear without giving too much throttle)

I wouldn't beat on it until it reaches at least 180*F

If you regularly see sustained temps over 240*F, I'd consider investing in an oil cooler (several threads on this -- search) -- that said, it shouldn't be an issue unless you track the car hard.

Nissan recommends Ester based oils, which supposedly offer superior protection (less shearing under load) under high temp condtions.

After 5K on ODO, switch to a good Ester based synthetic like Redline for further protection.
I see you noted 250, at what temp are you doing damage to your engine ? and is there harm in running a high temp of 220 for a prolonged period? Thanks
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I see you noted 250, at what temp are you doing damage to your engine ? and is there harm in running a high temp of 220 for a prolonged period? Thanks
My recommendation is as follows:

Drive fairly easy until oil is at least 160*F -- ideally closer to 180*F, after that you can romp on it.

Driving around at sustainted temps between 200* and 225* is normal and perfectly safe.

Some power (a few whp) will be lost over 230*F, although it will still be safe.

If you are seeing temps regularly over 240*F, you aren't hurting the engine per se, but you are definitely losing power, hence my recommendation to see about a cooler.

A few dynos on here suggest 195* - 200* makes best power on the VQ37 -- this suggests that an oil cooler with a thermostat rated right around 200* - 210* would probably be ideal in summer and winter (the 180* F temp oil coolers seem to run too cold in the winter).

Bearing failure is a real possiblity under severe load (i.e., racing) at sustained oil temps greater than 260*F (which is why I said if it goes over 250* to let it cool down), although for short periods, oil temps that high will probably be fine provided a high quality synthetic with good shear properties is used.

In fact, for a well built motor with a really good oiling system (such as a dry sump), temps approaching 280* - 325+*F will probably be fine, at least for short bursts.

However, Nissan clearly feared some shortened engine life there (280*+), so this is probably about when the ECU commands the "limp mode" to reduce power output.

Hope that helps
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