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COBB Tuning 05-14-2010 01:33 PM

What new under-hood Performance Parts would you like to see from COBB Tuning?
 
Now that COBB Tuning has nearly completed the relocation of our headquarters from Salt Lake City, UT to Austin, TX, we are beginning to ramp up our new hard-parts production facility. In an effort to better serve our customers and the Import Tuning and Performance community, we want to know what parts you would like to see from COBB Tuning. We are particularly interested in learning about "under-hood" products you would like to see, whether they be old products you want brought back or new products you've never seen from COBB Tuning.


Please complete this short and simple survey and send it to products@cobbtuning.com. Your input will directly impact what parts will be available from COBB Tuning in the coming months!

Vehicle Information:
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What is your car's current configuration?
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Other:


What is your current engine management?
AccessPORT:
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What are the top five products you are most interested in seeing COBB Tuning manufacture?
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mpp9 05-14-2010 02:33 PM

Youre gonna get some angry smartass responses my man. All anyone wants on here are ap maps with vvel tuning.

Prosport Gauges 05-14-2010 03:00 PM

O-m-g!

sk8geezer 05-15-2010 07:42 AM

Until we get maps I will never buy another COBB product, nor will my friends. Take that to heart if you value your rep in this community.

IDZRVIT 05-15-2010 09:11 AM

I would be interested in purchasing your Access Port if you had maps for the 370Z. When will they be available?

Zsteve 05-15-2010 11:19 AM

Just the DAMN tunes. I already have the AP so Im feeling kinda cheated that you guys havent come thru with the tunes like you said you would. Thank God for AAM atleast.

drisko 05-15-2010 01:02 PM

I would of course like the staged maps too...but I'll put out one suggestion for a hard part: An intake system with easy to change filters that still sucks cold air.

For example, you could start with a traditional short ram system, but just enclose the filter elements in a plastic box that has a tube coming out the bottom leading to a cold air source. I know this sounds sort of like the stock intake system, but it would have 3 important differences: bigger intake piping, higher flow filters, and no resonators like on the stock system.

Zsteve 05-15-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drisko (Post 538480)
I would of course like the staged maps too...but I'll put out one suggestion for a hard part: An intake system with easy to change filters that still sucks cold air.

For example, you could start with a traditional short ram system, but just enclose the filter elements in a plastic box that has a tube coming out the bottom leading to a cold air source. I know this sounds sort of like the stock intake system, but it would have 3 important differences: bigger intake piping, higher flow filters, and no resonators like on the stock system.

The drop ins flow as well as after market filter on a stick and as I have stated on another thread, I doubt that you even come close to sucking as much air as the drop ins can flow. They are equal in intake temps as long tubes and if you want a larger MAF section (larger tubes all around I dont think accomplish anything) then just get some aftermarket ones. Also I think if you have a tune the larger MAF isnt needed either, but not too sure about that one. All I think that is needed is for nissan to bling up the stock intake to make it look aftermarket.

Daishi 05-15-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 538399)
Just the DAMN tunes. I already have the AP so Im feeling kinda cheated that you guys havent come thru with the tunes like you said you would. Thank God for AAM atleast.


How are you cheated? you knew what you were buying before you made the purchase, you can easily check to see what maps are available. And if you didnt know that they werent available your just retarded for not checking. Get a custom tune done and call it a day.

Zsteve 05-15-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daishi (Post 538584)
How are you cheated? you knew what you were buying before you made the purchase, you can easily check to see what maps are available. And if you didnt know that they werent available your just retarded for not checking. Get a custom tune done and call it a day.

when you promise something you deliver. If not thats cheating people, if it wasnt for AAM and their canned tunes the Cobb AP is no where near worth the price they want. Tunes with it yes. If you buy something under a condition that you will get something else with and dont plan on honoring that deal then its cheating the consumers to sell something. Promising something and not hororing that is retarded.

Right now I wouldnt buy anthing from Cobb till they honor their tunes.

G Fo12ce 05-15-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drisko (Post 538480)
For example, you could start with a traditional short ram system, but just enclose the filter elements in a plastic box that has a tube coming out the bottom leading to a cold air source. I know this sounds sort of like the stock intake system, but it would have 3 important differences: bigger intake piping, higher flow filters, and no resonators like on the stock system.

To add to your idea these two come to mind.

E46 M3 Intake from VF Engineering.
http://www.vf-accessories.com/images...6M3_header.gif
http://www.vf-accessories.com/images...M3/Intake1.jpg
http://www.vf-accessories.com/images..._rabbit/02.jpg

And PWJDM S2K Intake:
http://passwordjdm.com/images/Products/2437_3.jpg
http://passwordjdm.com/images/Products/2437_5.jpg
http://passwordjdm.com/images/Products/2437_2.jpg

You better have maps for your tuner when/if you make these bolt-ons or you it will be hard to live down here.

Zsteve 05-15-2010 07:35 PM

the VF one is the way Nissan should make theirs.

G Fo12ce 05-15-2010 10:37 PM

It's pretty nice. They sell it with a tune so it's not the cheapest but it's supposed to give good results. If something like that comes out the only concern persoanally is is the lack of check fit on the Nismo models by pretty much all parts manufacterers. So the scoops may not be placed right due to poosible differences on the non-Nismo bumpers. You can pretty much modify anything for a price though....

labk888 05-16-2010 02:10 AM

Do you really have to ask? REALLY? We want our maps, please. :D KTHXBYE.

370Zsteve 05-16-2010 07:23 AM

You tell me you have maps, I buy the Cobb. 'Till then, no interest.

m4a1mustang 05-16-2010 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 539137)
You tell me you have maps, I buy the Cobb. 'Till then, no interest.

+ Infinity.

CBRich 05-16-2010 12:32 PM

That S2K kevlar intake is sex.

drisko 05-16-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Fo12ce (Post 538686)

Nice find. That's exactly what I was thinking of. I think the Nissan OEM intake system is good, but even with drop-in filters it will probably become restrictive to moderately or heavily modified 370Zs.

G Fo12ce 05-16-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 539326)
That S2K kevlar intake is sex.

They make it in dry carbon too :nutswinger:

efuseakay 05-16-2010 10:31 PM

Looks like a dead alligator. :D

COBB... hmmm... Crack the VVEL and get some canned maps already. No more of this "we're almost there!" that we've been getting for a year. :)

1slow370 05-17-2010 02:07 AM

we all really want a really nice tunning solution. if you can get the vvel hammered out, at least a protuner release, and then maybe add a box to it that could do what the turboxs utec does only make it so it doesn't break easily or stop working. these cars really need F.I. and features like the built in boost control, extra solenoid control, the 2 step rev limiter/launch control, ability to add a map sensor for high boost, and some of the other features the utec had were great if only the damn thing lasted more than a year.

so far as engine parts, bigger radiator or some add on radiators would be nice, maybe some bigger rails that could come with some extra ports for a gauge, and some nice hard pipe assemblies that could let you run either singe or return line with a fuel pressure regulator(and the little pieces that go in the pump assembly to make that happen). for the single line it would be nice if it cleaned up the stock fuel lines in the engine bay so you could just pull the old stuff, pop on the new rails, screw the new hard pipes into the back of the rails, screw the regulator onto that and then have the factory fitting for the stock line so that just snaps in. for the twin rails it would be nice to have a packaged kit that had new larger lines, pump, sending unit adapters, regulator and all the fittings needed so you could just have the kit shipped to your garage and put it on in one day without having to order/cut lines or install fittings.

if you could make a gauge and harness combo that could use the factory wide band sensors that would be awesome, as its a waste to not be able to tap into the factory 5v front o2 sensors, and have to install bungs, and adding another sensor to the car. also nice dash 4 gauge cluster panel that could easily go in place of the useless cubby would be freakin awesome(as well as a good seller)

G37sHKS 05-17-2010 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 540427)
we all really want a really nice tunning solution. if you can get the vvel hammered out, at least a protuner release, and then maybe add a box to it that could do what the turboxs utec does only make it so it doesn't break easily or stop working. these cars really need F.I. and features like the built in boost control, extra solenoid control, the 2 step rev limiter/launch control, ability to add a map sensor for high boost, and some of the other features the utec had were great if only the damn thing lasted more than a year.

so far as engine parts, bigger radiator or some add on radiators would be nice, maybe some bigger rails that could come with some extra ports for a gauge, and some nice hard pipe assemblies that could let you run either singe or return line with a fuel pressure regulator(and the little pieces that go in the pump assembly to make that happen). for the single line it would be nice if it cleaned up the stock fuel lines in the engine bay so you could just pull the old stuff, pop on the new rails, screw the new hard pipes into the back of the rails, screw the regulator onto that and then have the factory fitting for the stock line so that just snaps in. for the twin rails it would be nice to have a packaged kit that had new larger lines, pump, sending unit adapters, regulator and all the fittings needed so you could just have the kit shipped to your garage and put it on in one day without having to order/cut lines or install fittings.

if you could make a gauge and harness combo that could use the factory wide band sensors that would be awesome, as its a waste to not be able to tap into the factory 5v front o2 sensors, and have to install bungs, and adding another sensor to the car. also nice dash 4 gauge cluster panel that could easily go in place of the useless cubby would be freakin awesome(as well as a good seller)

if you want all these then nissan already released a car for those ppl like you.. it called nissan GTR.. :gtfo2:

1slow370 05-18-2010 02:44 AM

it was a list of stuff they could make and tell ya what most of those items are going to be on the list of anyone with plans for a good FI setup. so for not knowing that there are more than a few z owners with high horsepower goals i give you the :gtfo2:

280z/300zx 05-19-2010 04:03 AM

still no response from cobb??:shakes head:

JoeyD 05-19-2010 08:38 AM

Crack VVEL, first and foremost.

As for these cars "needing FI". I'm throwing the BS flag. I still believe we can make 400+ Flywheel HP NA. Don't get me wrong, turbo cars are the most fun you can have behind the wheel, but even the best systems add weight and maintenance headaches. You should also consider that the stock torque curve (very flat) is the reason the Z is such and easy car to drive fast. You can kiss that goodbye with turbo. A SC will maintain a stock-like torque curve, but again adds weight.

Cobb, how about some titanium springs, valves, retainers and an 8000K+ RPM redline? I'm guessing another 30-50HP could be squeezed out on revs alone. With a good VVEL tune and maybe an exhaust cam, look out M3.

Prosport Gauges 05-19-2010 11:53 AM

At first i thought they started this thread for attention. so people will buy the AP with no maps after a long year and some change later :(

Anyways. Im most likely going to skip the FI. I had fun with my last car (subaru). Id really like to get the 370z around 375-400 Flywheel HP NA so JoeyD im with you on that man.

efuseakay 05-19-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

07-08-2009 09:42 AM

JoeGR
COBB Nissan/Infiniti Firmware Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SLC
Posts: 619

The 370Z is supported in the latest firmware release of the AccessPORT and we've released the AccessTUNER Race for the car, but we do not have any base maps as of yet. The 370Z is currently sitting on the dyno and we've been working on the VVEL system so we should have maps ready here in a few weeks.

Joe
Access Port for 370z

I'm just sayin'...

CharBoiler 05-19-2010 07:02 PM

Not sure what happened to Cobb but it seems like they have been on a downhill path. Back when I had my 04 STi, Cobb seemed to get nothing but good reviews. Then I started to hear mixed reviews when I got my 09 STi. Now this from the Z community. Did Cobb change owners?

1slow370 05-20-2010 12:37 AM

i don't think they are on a downward path and personally i can understand te developement time here as this car is a PITA. If they get the VVEL cracked they'll be miles ahead of uprev. When that happens i will go out and by one the next day if it opens my cars tuning up to me on my laptop.

efuseakay 05-20-2010 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 544659)
i don't think they are on a downward path and personally i can understand te developement time here as this car is a PITA. If they get the VVEL cracked they'll be miles ahead of uprev. When that happens i will go out and by one the next day if it opens my cars tuning up to me on my laptop.

Right... but just don't be saying "in a few weeks"... especially since it's been more than 10 months.

COBB Tuning 05-20-2010 12:55 PM

First of all, I think it is important to let you all know that we understand that maps for the 370Z is the most important thing that COBB Tuning needs to offer to the 370Z community at this time. This survey was to gauge interest in other parts that 370Z enthusiasts might want to see from COBB Tuning, but given the delays in 370Z maps, perhaps it was inappropriate for us to post this survey here. If so, I apologize.

Regarding the 370Z maps, everyone wants VVEL cracked. We are working on figuring it out, but it is extremely complex, and we cannot offer a timeline that estimates when we will have this sorted out.

We are very late in delivering these maps as we were hoping to have VVEL tuning incorporated in them. Since the time frame for VVEL tuning is currently unknown, do 370Z AccessPORT owners want Off the Shelf maps created with the software as it exists today, without VVEL tuning?

Regards,

Gary
Marketing
COBB Tuning

dlmartin81 05-20-2010 01:22 PM

Some ideas for new under the hood parts (like other companies):

* Oil cooler
* CAI
* LW Pulleys


I'm assuming that you'll only produce bolt-ons; otherwise, I'd also say:

* Valvetrain Upgrades
* Intake Manifold

dlmartin81 05-20-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 543490)
...

Cobb, how about some titanium springs, valves, retainers and an 8000K+ RPM redline? I'm guessing another 30-50HP could be squeezed out on revs alone. With a good VVEL tune and maybe an exhaust cam, look out M3.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

Prosport Gauges 05-20-2010 01:32 PM

1 single turbo setup:roflpuke2:

SE 05-20-2010 03:46 PM

In all honesty, I am waiting on the VVEL to be cracked before buying the Cobb AP. Until then, I will be considering other alternatives. I understand that the VVEL system is complex, but next time don't promise something before it's actually available. This is why you have so many upset Z34 owners on here.

Intakes would be nice, but if it's anything like the one on your Time Attack Z34, count me out. Short rams have been shown to lose power time and time again, and I seriously doubt you'd be able to make a huge profit selling those. If it were a long tube/CAI, I'd consider it. Just use hard pipes rather than the rubber hoses like your post-MAF pipes- I know that aluminum/metal retains more heat, but it is more asthetically pleasing. A head package would be awesome- think exhaust cam with intake VVEL shims for longer lift/duration. You'd be the first on the market with that.

Just my $0.02.

drisko 05-20-2010 05:36 PM

I think it would be good to have a couple base maps without VVEL. I'm expecting the gains will be in the 3% range, similar to the G37. I'm sure the midrange and responsiveness of the car would improve as well.

That said, COBB should still have cracking VVEL as a high priority since it is a technology that Nissan/Infiniti will continue to use for many years and it could net some huge tuning gains (not to mention a ton of sales for COBB).

kannibul 05-20-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 543490)
Crack VVEL, first and foremost.

As for these cars "needing FI". I'm throwing the BS flag. I still believe we can make 400+ Flywheel HP NA. Don't get me wrong, turbo cars are the most fun you can have behind the wheel, but even the best systems add weight and maintenance headaches. You should also consider that the stock torque curve (very flat) is the reason the Z is such and easy car to drive fast. You can kiss that goodbye with turbo. A SC will maintain a stock-like torque curve, but again adds weight.

Cobb, how about some titanium springs, valves, retainers and an 8000K+ RPM redline? I'm guessing another 30-50HP could be squeezed out on revs alone. With a good VVEL tune and maybe an exhaust cam, look out M3.

I dont know about you and everyone else...but I rarely roll around at 5K+

HP at the top end is meaningless to me...low and midrange torque...need moar.

kannibul 05-20-2010 06:07 PM

I would like to see 7AT upgrades. Valvebody, trans cooler, etc...

earwicker7 05-20-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 545323)
I would like to see 7AT upgrades. Valvebody, trans cooler, etc...

Oh yeah!

Red370 05-20-2010 07:10 PM

To Cobb, yes, canned maps w/o VVEL factored in would tide alot of people over for the time being until its finally cracked. Next question I have is, this VVEL, should it be cracked, will we see much higher gains than the standard canned maps we have now?


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