so why couldnt they have done that long ago, the bums.

well we have been getting canned maps from another company to be used with your product. Kinda sad another company had to do it.

transmission chip for even quicker shifts and maybe convert the D mode into a sport mode.

Absolutely! I can't imagine why this wasn't done a long time ago. Sure we'd love to have VVEL cracked but at least give us some basic canned maps to tide us over in the meantime. I know I won't be buying an AP until OTS maps are available. :ugh2:

I cruise like every other car on the road; In sixth gear conserving go juice. However, when I am having fun I wind out every gear, and when carving up the twistys I try to keep my revs as high as possible.

I mean no offense, but if you wanted head pinning (tire shredding) torque you should have bought a Camaro or the like. Just sayin...

Agreed. Something is always better than nothing.

Ok did i miss something here? Why is there guys bitching about not having maps? Why would you want a canned tune in the first place, all cars are different so that tune may not be what your car wants. Why not just get the AP and go to a local dyno that does tuning and get your car dyno tuned?

Not everyone has access to a dyno. Canned maps are a decent option for those in such a situation.

I'd be up for a canned map without the vvel tuning for now.

front camber arms better than the ones currently available (preferably aluminum). I guess that's not under the hood though.....

Stock cars have canned tunes from the factory so even a canned tune can get you gains of up to 90% of what a dyno tune will get.

I dont own a Z yet (there is a reason my license has been suspended for 2 years:owned: and I only have 2 months left). But Some things that I have been looking for and havent seen yet are, a nice intake manifold, and to quote JoeyD some titanium springs, valves, retainers would be nice.

The AAM threads answer that question with a big, fat YES.

So you don't want short intakes because they lose power but you'll take metal pipes which retain more heat than rubber, thereby losing power from intake temps? :ughdance:

Expense?

I'd like to see Cobb offer insulated sleeves to cover the Cobb intake tubes and the air path back to the radiator support. It would be even better if the insulated sleeves had an internal air gap to allow fresh air to enter at the front and exit near the throttle bodies to prevent heating of the intake air.

Just felt like bumping this thread to voice my frustration in Cobb not even supporting the 2010 Z at all yet. It turns out that the 1EA4B ECU that many of us have gotten to fix the high pitch whine issue is in fact from the 2010 model, so the AP doesn't support it.

How does it take 6+ months to support a model that is virtually identical to the previous years model???? They really don't seem to have their act together.

I'm not even going to mention the whole issue with not having pre-canned maps directly from Cobb. Oh wait, I did. :(

Not to sound completley uninformed, but what exactly will be accomplished by cracking vvel?!? Does it produce more power or what.

well cracking the vvel might let you open the cams up farther and for longer durations than they do stock in the lower/mid range area to try and pick up some more hp in that range, also since they effectively act as the throttle for the engine some response could be gained. if there is a combined way to operate the vvel and adjust the opening and closing of the ETB's to effectively eliminate them staying open all the time, it would become possible to put a twin screw on the car without seizing the compressor, snapping belts, or blowing the manifold to pieces. a tune that would make the throttle bodies operate in a normal fashion would be awesome for those seeking real low end torque and power. the power gains all depend on the stock vvel curve/maps, if the stock maps turn out to be detuned enough there could be a considerable horsepower gain similar to camming the car. also it may be essential for magic screw adjustment which would yield much larger numbers. If that is the case when the vvel gets cracked they could probably sell the accesport for mines or topsecret ecu flash prices and still have it be the 3rd most desirable power adder (after intake and exhaust) short of forced induction. If the CVTC can be modified as well there would be gains in it for the forced induction guys by retarding the cam timing to reduce valve overlap

Good write up, so there is some potential for some good hp gains equal to HFC and CBA. Interesting, I might have to pick one up when they finally do it

COBB,

Are you guys working on base maps without VVEL now? I just wasn't exactly sure what resulted from this whole thread.

^^^ nothing. Still no base maps.

well technically it was a thread about what else we would like to see from cobb and then it turned into a bitchfest of customer hate about not having maps. actually i thought of another one, what about a high flow fuel pump assembly that fixes the whole fuel starvation while turning corners bulshizzle?

How about an AP for the 2010 folks, at least the 2009 guys have a way to be tuned, I kinda feel left out in the cold entirely. Just my two pennies.

Bump for COBB still not having released any base maps. Again, the 370 is the ONLY car they sell the AP for that does not have any base maps.

Thanks COBB.

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sold my cobb ap going with uprev

Is there any difference since the vvel hasnt been broken and may not be broken.

Stillens supercharger doesnt support cobb they use uprev. Down with cobb up with uprev.

again why not start another "Cobb we're pissed we don't have maps" thread to go with the other 200

So does uprev tune different things then the AAM Cobb tune? I thought they both just pretty much adjust the AF and altitude and octane level and thats about it.

they both do pretty much the same thing shops that are looking to get carb cert use the uprev though as it is deemed suffiecently unalterable to pass instead of handing you a tuner that can actually change the tune. i believe you can lock an accesport map though but the base level reflash utility for uprev is cheaper than the one size fits all cobb. look at aam they sell TT setups tuned from the accesport and ask lou how thats going for him.

I just like how after they posted this and got some requests and suggestions they havent posted anything in response