First oil change coming up, need some advice.

LiquidZ · 04-09-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by motorking

So tell us why Mr. Amsoil dealer? Tell all of us how the amsoil filter stacks up to the Fram Extended Guard filter in efficiency, capacity, construction and retail price? If you need help, I can tell them, you have a lower filtering efficiency, lower dirt trapping capacity, a retail price that is 30-50% higher, a piece of perforated plastic holding up the media.

Our efficiency is a little higher, the ability to trap and hold dirt exceeds the amsoil filter by 3 grams, we use a stainless steel screen to support the filter media, your filter uses flimsy plastic.

As far as the "study" you all keep referring to, there is no part of that study where the guy actually tests the filters for well, Filtration!. He is a fan of old mopar K cars cutting open filters and offering a very unqualified opinion, nothing more. There is no part of the study where he tests filtering efficiency or capacity.

To the poster, if you want to try a state of the art extended life oil filter, email you address to me at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com and I will send you a case of them.

The above video was conducted by an individual who took apart many oil filters made by some of the leading manufacturers in oil filtration. In his channel, you will see that he disassembled Wix, Purolator, Bosch, Mopar, Fram, STP, Mobil 1, and Microgard oil filters. From the video, you can see that the filter housing was the thickest, the anti-drainback valve was the largest, and the filter media was held together my metal end caps. I don't see any perforated plastic anywhere.

Here is an exploded view of an EaO oil filter:

Also, Amsoil's EaO oil filters have 98.7% filtering efficiency at 15 microns (ISO 4548-12). Looking at the Fram Extended Guard oil filter, I see they have 97% filtering efficiency, also according to ISO 4548-12, but for particles greater than 20 microns.

The only thing you were correct about, was the price. However, its obvious you get what you pay for.

G35guy84 · 04-09-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Also, Amsoil's EaO oil filters have 98.7% filtering efficiency at 15 microns (ISO 4548-12). Looking at the Fram Extended Guard oil filter, I see they have 97% filtering efficiency, also according to ISO 4548-12, but for particles greater than 20 microns.

The only thing you were correct about, was the price. However, its obvious you get what you pay for.

Vegitto-kun · 04-08-2010, 01:55 PM

That bad huh?

LiquidZ · 04-08-2010, 01:57 PM

I recommend Purolator, Wix, or Amsoil.

I'm using a Wix.

Vegitto-kun · 04-08-2010, 02:01 PM

purolator doesn't have dealers here. wix doesn't seem to have any here too.

amsoil might be a posibility.

LiquidZ · 04-08-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

purolator doesn't have dealers here. wix doesn't seem to have any here too.

amsoil might be a posibility.

Amsoil sells Wix, too.

Amsoil oil filters are great, but are only really needed when using extended drain intervals.

Vegitto-kun · 04-08-2010, 02:13 PM

online store only for us and canada.

great...

anybody up for picking them up for me.

j.arnaldo · 04-08-2010, 02:14 PM

Pathetic marketing strategies by some manufacturers. They deserve to be undersold!

j.arnaldo · 04-08-2010, 02:17 PM

LiquidZ is right on the money regarding Fram; they're right at the bottom of the list the engineer did on oil filters.

VCuomo · 04-08-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo

LiquidZ is right on the money regarding Fram; they're right at the bottom of the list the engineer did on oil filters.

If it's the study I'm thinking of, he did not test Fram's Extended Guard oil filter - in fact, I believe the Extended Guard line is relatively new and the study was done a number of years ago.

Vegitto-kun · 04-08-2010, 02:24 PM

Hilarious. well il go to autozone this weekend and see what they can get a hold off.

Well if anybody is willing to get those filters I cant get here please do PM me.

LiquidZ · 04-08-2010, 02:55 PM

Vegitto, I'm sure you can find an excellent oil filter in your country. To be honest, I'm not sure what is sold there. The recommendations I made were based on experiences/research I had with filters available to me here in the States.

Vegitto-kun · 04-09-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Vegitto, I'm sure you can find an excellent oil filter in your country. To be honest, I'm not sure what is sold there. The recommendations I made were based on experiences/research I had with filters available to me here in the States.

I am pretty sure that I can get K&N filters here but I will let you guys know next week on what I found

IDZRVIT · 04-08-2010, 04:01 PM

The Z uses the same filter as my 2002 Kia Spectra!

Vegitto-kun · 04-09-2010, 01:35 PM

well he is sending me free samples so I will try them. free filters why not

04-08-2010, 01:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 706	I recommend Purolator, Wix, or Amsoil. I'm using a Wix. __________________

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LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 706	Vegitto, I'm sure you can find an excellent oil filter in your country. To be honest, I'm not sure what is sold there. The recommendations I made were based on experiences/research I had with filters available to me here in the States. __________________

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Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 264	well he is sending me free samples so I will try them. free filters why not