Looking for info on talented VHR builders.

oldskoolchuk · 08-04-2021, 05:03 PM

I really value all the input. Right now I'm at the boosted stock block on E85 point, and I would like to set myself apart from that. A Mazworks built motor is definitely going to give me more reliability than a stock motor, and it'll set me apart from that, which is part of why I want to go built block... I don't wanna be "just another boosted stock block on E85" guy. Not that 600whp is run of the mill... but getting to the point where I'm pushing past the fully built Golfs... or STIs... being a cut above them is kinda where I want to be. Super thankful that my eyes are open to all of the **** necessary to hit 850-900 now, but also looking for what point to aim for that's not going to require things like replacing sub frames and BMW trans swaps. I'm also, like Spooler, not going to be racing at dragstrips, nor from digs... that's not what I enjoy... but I'd sure love to catch back up with that blue supercharged coyote mustang and pull on him instead of watching him pull on me again.

Before fixing the deleted pcv and seeing all the blue smoke that resulted, I was entertaining the idea of a sequential to stay in boost through shifts. Perhaps going back to that line of thinking may be worth considering. I was just starting to research them... and they are.pricey... but would I be wiser to stay with a stock block and get a sequential given my goals? The thing that was bothering me is they don't seem to offer much longevity.

redondoaveb · 08-04-2021, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskoolchuk

I really value all the input. Right now I'm at the boosted stock block on E85 point, and I would like to set myself apart from that. A Mazworks built motor is definitely going to give me more reliability than a stock motor, and it'll set me apart from that, which is part of why I want to go built block... I don't wanna be "just another boosted stock block on E85" guy. Not that 600whp is run of the mill... but getting to the point where I'm pushing past the fully built Golfs... or STIs... being a cut above them is kinda where I want to be. Super thankful that my eyes are open to all of the **** necessary to hit 850-900 now, but also looking for what point to aim for that's not going to require things like replacing sub frames and BMW trans swaps. I'm also, like Spooler, not going to be racing at dragstrips, nor from digs... that's not what I enjoy... but I'd sure love to catch back up with that blue supercharged coyote mustang and pull on him instead of watching him pull on me again.

Before fixing the deleted pcv and seeing all the blue smoke that resulted, I was entertaining the idea of a sequential to stay in boost through shifts. Perhaps going back to that line of thinking may be worth considering. I was just starting to research them... and they are.pricey... but would I be wiser to stay with a stock block and get a sequential given my goals? The thing that was bothering me is they don't seem to offer much longevity.

There are plenty of guys out there that run more than 600whp on the stock block with reliability. Even a fully built motor from Mazworx or SOHO doesn't guarantee reliability at 800/900whp although it sure helps

oldskoolchuk · 08-04-2021, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

There are plenty of guys out there that run more than 600whp on the stock block with reliability. Even a fully built motor from Mazworx or SOHO doesn't guarantee reliability at 800/900whp although it sure helps

Well it seems that 700-800 might be the ballpark with a built motor to avoid breaking the rest of the drivetrain. But I'm wondering here, will I be better at stock block 600+ whp and taking that money I would spend on a built motor and put in a sequential trans to give me the ability to push faster through gears by simply staying in boost? But how many miles will a sequential last?

Spooler · 08-04-2021, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskoolchuk

Well it seems that 700-800 might be the ballpark with a built motor to avoid breaking the rest of the drivetrain. But I'm wondering here, will I be better at stock block 600+ whp and taking that money I would spend on a built motor and put in a sequential trans to give me the ability to push faster through gears by simply staying in boost? But how many miles will a sequential last?

You would be better putting it into your motor. Stock is not gonna last and when it goes it is ugly. A proper Sequential is 25k.

redondoaveb · 08-04-2021, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

You would be better putting it into your motor. Stock is not gonna last and when it goes it is ugly. A proper Sequential is 25k.

Bob's (Hotrodz) stock block lasted I think 5 years of track abuse. I'd take that any day of the week.

Spooler · 08-04-2021, 10:55 PM

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Bob's (Hotrodz) stock block lasted I think 5 years of track abuse. I'd take that any day of the week.

It depends on what you are use too. 600whp on my car was boring as chit. 718whp was fun. 900whp was great.

redondoaveb · 08-04-2021, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

It depends on what you are use too. 600whp on my car was boring as chit. 718whp was fun. 900whp was great.

Yeah, but you're a freak

Most guys have no business driving a 900whp z. My sc'd z was fun at 680 (probably closer to 700 due to clutch slip). I may be in that same hp area with my tt build.

oldskoolchuk · 08-04-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

You would be better putting it into your motor. Stock is not gonna last and when it goes it is ugly. A proper Sequential is 25k.

That Hollinger is exactly the one I was looking at. So let's do math.

VHR core about 1500, plus shipping to Mazworks, then add 15,000 plus tax, plus shipping back, then motor swap labor... that's a price tag in the ballpark of that sequential.

Would another 150whp make me faster than sequential shifts and keeping boost?

The thing is, isn't the lifespan of the gears rather short?

Spooler · 08-04-2021, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskoolchuk

That Hollinger is exactly the one I was looking at. So let's do math.

VHR core about 1500, plus shipping to Mazworks, then add 15,000 plus tax, plus shipping back, then motor swap labor... that's a price tag in the ballpark of that sequential.

Would another 150whp make me faster than sequential shifts and keeping boost?

The thing is, isn't the lifespan of the gears rather short?

Stock tranny? It depends on how you treat it. New Nissan trans is $1700, or it was. LOL Everything is going up.

oldskoolchuk · 08-05-2021, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Stock tranny? It depends on how you treat it. New Nissan trans is $1700, or it was. LOL Everything is going up.

No, on the dogbox. A guy at work was saying that they need to be rebuilt kinda often... and I can't find any info on the maintence of one.

08-04-2021, 05:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
oldskoolchuk Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 23 Drives: Boosted '13 Nismo Rep Power: 11	I really value all the input. Right now I'm at the boosted stock block on E85 point, and I would like to set myself apart from that. A Mazworks built motor is definitely going to give me more reliability than a stock motor, and it'll set me apart from that, which is part of why I want to go built block... I don't wanna be "just another boosted stock block on E85" guy. Not that 600whp is run of the mill... but getting to the point where I'm pushing past the fully built Golfs... or STIs... being a cut above them is kinda where I want to be. Super thankful that my eyes are open to all of the **** necessary to hit 850-900 now, but also looking for what point to aim for that's not going to require things like replacing sub frames and BMW trans swaps. I'm also, like Spooler, not going to be racing at dragstrips, nor from digs... that's not what I enjoy... but I'd sure love to catch back up with that blue supercharged coyote mustang and pull on him instead of watching him pull on me again. Before fixing the deleted pcv and seeing all the blue smoke that resulted, I was entertaining the idea of a sequential to stay in boost through shifts. Perhaps going back to that line of thinking may be worth considering. I was just starting to research them... and they are.pricey... but would I be wiser to stay with a stock block and get a sequential given my goals? The thing that was bothering me is they don't seem to offer much longevity. Last edited by oldskoolchuk; 08-04-2021 at 05:10 PM.

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