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Jordan12berg 09-28-2018 03:48 PM

Had a friend rev it a little while I checked my oil pressure gauge connections, sounds louder underneath the engine :/

Rusty 09-28-2018 07:33 PM

Did you change the oil when you replaced to gasket? If you did. What did the oil look like?

Jordan12berg 09-28-2018 07:54 PM

Dark. And it was new oil; maybe 500-1000 miles if that. Redline 5W-30

Rusty 09-28-2018 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan12berg (Post 3788867)
Dark. And it was new oil; maybe 500-1000 miles if that. Redline 5W-30

Any silver streaks in it?

Jordan12berg 09-30-2018 04:35 PM

Negative, not even as much as a metal flake, just dark brown.

Spooler 09-30-2018 07:52 PM

If it is a lifter. See if you can find some BG- MOA oil additive. If that stuff doesn't solve it, nothing will. It is by far the best oil additive I have ever used.

Jordan12berg 10-01-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3789112)
If it is a lifter. See if you can find some BG- MOA oil additive. If that stuff doesn't solve it, nothing will. It is by far the best oil additive I have ever used.



I’ll get some of that when I get a chance here in the next couple weeks.

Jordan12berg 10-02-2018 06:21 AM

Got to record some oil pressure this morning.
Idle:25psi/ 1K:30-33psi/ 2K:55-60psi/ 3K:87psi/ 4K:95psi/ 5K:100psi/ 6K:100psi

Rusty 10-02-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan12berg (Post 3789329)
Got to record some oil pressure this morning.
Idle:25psi/ 1K:30-33psi/ 2K:55-60psi/ 3K:87psi/ 4K:95psi/ 5K:100psi/ 6K:100psi

Need to post your pressures here.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ure-gauge.html

Your pressures are line from what I can see. Mid range is lower then mine. But are with 40 to 332 pressures.

Jordan12berg 10-19-2018 08:26 AM

Bringing this back from the dead. Another observation I’ve made since butting about 1500 miles on it since it’s back together. Still runs fine, still makes the noise. However, let’s say I’m on the interstate at 2500 rpms cruising it will be ticking, but as soon as I give the throttle 30-40% the noise goes away, even at the rpms that usually make it.

SG4247 10-19-2018 09:07 AM

I am suprised you can hear any under hood mechanical engine noise at speeds above 20 mph.

Now an exhaust leak, yes you could likely hear that at highway speed, an exhaust leak will change with throttle position.

One thing you might try thats easy is to remove the drive belt and start the engine. If noise is gone then you know its one of the accessories or tensioner pulley.

BettyZ 10-25-2018 06:57 PM

Were you absolutely sure the primary timing chain didn't jump a tooth or two when you were replacing the gaskets? Mine definitely did during the install and my buddy and I turned to each other with matching "o f*ck" looks on our faces...

Jordan12berg 10-30-2018 06:23 PM

Yea the chains didn’t move I made marks and zip tied it down. Triple checked before putting everything back. The noise is the same from before I opened it up so I know it’s not the chain.

Jordan12berg 12-21-2018 01:31 PM

Just changed oil to a thicker 5w 40. Oil pressure is up a bit and the noise isn’t as loud anymore.

BettyZ 12-21-2018 01:50 PM

What does your oil pressure look like now?

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Jordan12berg 12-25-2018 05:15 PM

Full throttle they look the same but cruising is where it’s different. Just cruising 75-80 it’s at 82 when it would be at or below 75

Jordan12berg 01-06-2019 03:22 PM

Well now something happened the oil pressure won’t go over 50psi and the noise is now so loud it’s a banging noise. I guess it’s going to a shop now.

Rusty 01-06-2019 03:25 PM

:eek: :confused: :(

BettyZ 01-06-2019 04:11 PM

Jesus man I'm sorry to hear that. It was running OK before that?

Vid of the banging would be helpful.

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Jordan12berg 01-06-2019 05:27 PM

I’ll try to get one in the morning. It’s at the shop now but I haven’t decided if I’m going to have them work on it or not.
The noise doesn’t happen all the time like it used to, just in the 2000-4000rpm range still.
Only on partial throttle past half in that band no noise. Even with the oil pressure low. But partial throttle sounds like a couple of aliens in my engine bay taking cast iron pans to my motor.
Could this be a bad oil pump? What else would cause the sudden drop? I replaced the oil gallery already

Spooler 01-06-2019 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan12berg (Post 3812782)
I’ll try to get one in the morning. It’s at the shop now but I haven’t decided if I’m going to have them work on it or not.
The noise doesn’t happen all the time like it used to, just in the 2000-4000rpm range still.
Only on partial throttle past half in that band no noise. Even with the oil pressure low. But partial throttle sounds like a couple of aliens in my engine bay taking cast iron pans to my motor.
Could this be a bad oil pump? What else would cause the sudden drop? I replaced the oil gallery already

Sounds like rod knock. New engine or spin some new bearings in it and see what happens.

Jordan12berg 01-06-2019 05:43 PM

Wouldn’t rod knock happen all the time?
What do you honk cause the sudden drop in oil pressure?

Jordan12berg 01-06-2019 05:47 PM

No metal in the oil.

BettyZ 01-06-2019 06:35 PM

Depending on how long ago you did the gaskets, pressure drop could potentially be from a piece of loose permatex blocking your oil pickup.

Bottom-line though, the cost of the shop looking at it is less than the cost of a new engine.

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Jordan12berg 01-09-2019 10:35 AM

Ok so there was metallic found this time, they didn’t find it the other week just from looking at it briefly. The sound is coming from the bottom of the engine. So I guess my oil pump hasn’t been the best, now who knows what the damage is inside the motor.
Found an engine with less miles for 1500. Going to hurt.
Lesson learned, these engines need oil pressure gauges. I could have caught the blown oil gallery gaskets before serious damage was done.
At least I got the oil pressure gauge in now, my pockets hurt could have used that money on suspension or something but hopefully this story pushes other to get an oil pressure gauge.
Thanks for all of y’all help through this

BettyZ 01-09-2019 10:47 AM

Damn son that's a hard hit. But like you said, at least you have the oil pressure gauge! I think it would be worthwhile to have them pull the oil pump and see if it is in fact damaged and/or failing, and if so, whether the cause could be pinned down.

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Rusty 01-09-2019 11:00 AM

I'm thinking spun bearing. From low oil pressure. Just wondering if something got into the oil pump.

Years ago. I had a piece of valve seal ruin an oil pump. The motor had about 40,000 miles on it. :shakes head:

I was hoping things was going to work out for you with the gaskets.

Jordan12berg 01-09-2019 03:37 PM

If the oil pump is intact good can’t I upgrade the internals on the oil pump to perform like the nismo pump?
And my mechanic will let me back there to look at whatever so if y’all have any questions I can get back there and see what really failed.

Rusty 01-09-2019 03:48 PM

Don't waste your your time with the Nismo pump or up graded internals. Get a Sucker Punch pump from MAM.

Jordan12berg 01-19-2019 02:35 PM

They are letting me throw in the czp gallery gasket kit in the new engine, so at least I’ll have that security. Be interesting to see the new oil pressures. Government shutdown won’t allow me to do an upgraded oil pump.

Jordan12berg 02-15-2019 07:15 AM

So is it common for these engines to burn some oil if they had been sitting around for while?? I’m thinking no....

BettyZ 02-15-2019 07:31 AM

As in, it is low on oil? Or were the engine faeries burning 5w30 to keep warm at night?

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Jordan12berg 02-15-2019 07:53 AM

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https://imgur.com/gallery/vVW10SV
It’s been doing this lately slowly worse. And on startup and when I rev it you can see/smell the fairies burning the 5w30 I’m about to get to work and check oil levels. This engine came with warranty which I might use because I’ve been having cylinder 5 miss fires, injector cleaner has helped reduce it. But all of the bank with 1,3,5 will sometimes miss fire.

BettyZ 02-15-2019 08:03 AM

I wouldn't worry too terribly about those pressure swings, mine does the same depending on how I'm accelerating. Those cylinder 5 misfires tho...

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Jordan12berg 02-15-2019 03:34 PM

Right? Surely they checked compression. We put oil back in. Oil pressure it back up and steady. Missfires aren’t too bad but still present

BettyZ 02-15-2019 04:13 PM

Glad to hear. In my experience, "surely they xyz..." means they sure as hell did not lol.

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Jordan12berg 02-20-2019 12:43 PM

Now I’m getting missfires only in 1 and 3 5 has been 0-2 every trip. So it’s got to be a bank issue right? I am going to clean the MAFs and make sure they aren’t lose. And look over the TBs while I’m at it.

BettyZ 02-20-2019 12:50 PM

That's a reasonable assumption. I'd check all the wiring connectors as well

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