Starter cranks for 5-10 seconds?

greenlawnraci · 10-21-2016, 08:56 PM

Car has been trouble free for the six months that I've had it, but oddly enough in the exact same spot twice in the last few weeks when I've hit the starter it took 5-10 seconds of cranking before it started. Motor was warm, had been sitting for about an hour.

Under warranty, so no reason to self diagnose, but curious as to what it might be before I drop it off only to have the issue not replicated.

SouthArk370Z · 10-21-2016, 09:45 PM

If nobody comes up with a better idea, I'd check the air filters and then try cleaning the MAFs.

greenlawnraci · 10-21-2016, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

If nobody comes up with a better idea, I'd check the air filters and then try cleaning the MAFs.

Bought the car with 21k a S immediately added K and N drop ins. I'm now at 25k. Would the MAFs be dirty?

beemerkid · 10-22-2016, 01:46 AM

Check and clean the maf's anyway, its super easy, all you need is a screwdriver and a can of maf cleaner. Ive heard tell of people gunking them up by way over oiling their K&N's.

SouthArk370Z · 10-22-2016, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by greenlawnraci

... Would the MAFs be dirty?

Could be - especially if you have oiled filters. Even with dry filters, the MAFs can get dirty in 25k miles. May not be your problem but cleaning the MAFs is cheap (can of cleaner and a screwdriver) and easy (two screws per MAF, no gasket, about 5 minutes per side).

greenlawnraci · 10-22-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Could be - especially if you have oiled filters. Even with dry filters, the MAFs can get dirty in 25k miles. May not be your problem but cleaning the MAFs is cheap (can of cleaner and a screwdriver) and easy (two screws per MAF, no gasket, about 5 minutes per side).

The filters are brand new and factory oiled, but sounds like it's worth ten minutes of my time.

greenlawnraci · 11-12-2016, 11:45 PM

So......

Dropped her off at the stealership.

They called a few days later: needs a fuel pump. Makes sense I suppose, and since its under warranty who am I to care?

Pick it up today and drive it home.

Park her in the garage.

Work on motorcycles.

Move her out of the garage to wash her.

****.

Its not 5 - 10 seconds now. Its 15 seconds.

Rarely does a shop make your car WORSE post repair, but I suppose I'll be sending her back on Monday.

Irritating.....

DOOMMONKEY777 · 11-13-2016, 02:22 AM

Well i was going to say "fuel pump", but since it was changed, now i would say bad gas?

SouthArk370Z · 11-13-2016, 03:00 AM

If the dealer can't fix it this go around, I'd try another dealer. Your warranty is with Nissan, not the dealer.

greenlawnraci · 11-13-2016, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

If the dealer can't fix it this go around, I'd try another dealer. Your warranty is with Nissan, not the dealer.

yeah....probably the best route. Just hate it, because the other stealership is across town and I'm a busy/lazy SOB.

SouthArk370Z · 11-13-2016, 08:05 PM

If you've been buying your gas at the same place lately (something a busy/lazy SOB is likely to do heehee), then DOOMMONKEY777 may be on to something. Run the tank as low as you dare and then fillup at another gas station.

echoshotz · 11-13-2016, 09:44 PM

I've seen a thread with people having similar issues after letting the Z sit for an hour or two after being warm. Try doing a search and finding the thread, some people solved it (I think?) and one guy ended up having Nissan buy the car back. Could be some good info in there for you if the issue seems to be the same one they're having

greenlawnraci · 11-16-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by echoshotz

I've seen a thread with people having similar issues after letting the Z sit for an hour or two after being warm. Try doing a search and finding the thread, some people solved it (I think?) and one guy ended up having Nissan buy the car back. Could be some good info in there for you if the issue seems to be the same one they're having

Well that's encouraging. I must have used the wrong key words when I first searched. Warm start appears to be a tough journey, with some folks fighting it for years.

My first world problems have begun:

Stealer calls today. "We can't replicate the issue. Been trying all day. Tested all of your fuel components and drove/sat the thing multiple times".

"Humor me. Drive it for ten minutes and I'll be there in an hour"

"We'll try. I don't know if anyone is still here"

I go to this **** show. Car has been sitting for an hour and 15 minutes.

I hit the starter. 10 seconds.

"Well, yeah I guess you have a long start issue. But we can't replicate it".

"You just saw it replicated"

Handed him the keys. Fucker better be fixed tomorrow.

greenlawnraci · 11-27-2016, 09:51 AM

No dice. They have an engineer coming out on the 6th.

Frustrating.

shirokenkami · 11-28-2016, 07:27 AM

I hate to be "that" guy but did they check the battery? lol

10-21-2016, 08:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
greenlawnraci Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Memphis Posts: 80 Drives: Cervelo Rep Power: 9	Starter cranks for 5-10 seconds? Car has been trouble free for the six months that I've had it, but oddly enough in the exact same spot twice in the last few weeks when I've hit the starter it took 5-10 seconds of cranking before it started. Motor was warm, had been sitting for about an hour. Under warranty, so no reason to self diagnose, but curious as to what it might be before I drop it off only to have the issue not replicated.

10-21-2016, 09:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	If nobody comes up with a better idea, I'd check the air filters and then try cleaning the MAFs. onzedge likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

10-22-2016, 01:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
beemerkid Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Santa Rosa California Posts: 67 Drives: '16 sport 6MT Rep Power: 9	Check and clean the maf's anyway, its super easy, all you need is a screwdriver and a can of maf cleaner. Ive heard tell of people gunking them up by way over oiling their K&N's. SouthArk370Z likes this.

11-13-2016, 02:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	Well i was going to say "fuel pump", but since it was changed, now i would say bad gas? __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

11-13-2016, 03:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	If the dealer can't fix it this go around, I'd try another dealer. Your warranty is with Nissan, not the dealer. Wilson2608 likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

11-12-2016, 11:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
greenlawnraci Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Memphis Posts: 80 Drives: Cervelo Rep Power: 9	So...... Dropped her off at the stealership. They called a few days later: needs a fuel pump. Makes sense I suppose, and since its under warranty who am I to care? Pick it up today and drive it home. Park her in the garage. Work on motorcycles. Move her out of the garage to wash her. ****. Its not 5 - 10 seconds now. Its 15 seconds. Rarely does a shop make your car WORSE post repair, but I suppose I'll be sending her back on Monday. Irritating.....

11-13-2016, 08:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	If you've been buying your gas at the same place lately (something a busy/lazy SOB is likely to do heehee), then DOOMMONKEY777 may be on to something. Run the tank as low as you dare and then fillup at another gas station. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

11-13-2016, 09:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
echoshotz Base Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 218 Drives: 14 Nismo Rep Power: 72	I've seen a thread with people having similar issues after letting the Z sit for an hour or two after being warm. Try doing a search and finding the thread, some people solved it (I think?) and one guy ended up having Nissan buy the car back. Could be some good info in there for you if the issue seems to be the same one they're having

11-27-2016, 09:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
greenlawnraci Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Memphis Posts: 80 Drives: Cervelo Rep Power: 9	No dice. They have an engineer coming out on the 6th. Frustrating.

11-28-2016, 07:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
shirokenkami Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Middle Tennessee Age: 37 Posts: 232 Drives: 2013 Z Tour Spt 6mt Rep Power: 22	I hate to be "that" guy but did they check the battery? lol __________________ “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”- Edmund Burke

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