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MYZ34 10-02-2009 09:06 PM

What does everyone use?? Ming paint protection or X pack or just zaino (please help)
 
Ming paint protection or X pack or just zaino (please help)

* hey all have already ask this in the Aus thread part so dont burn me, just would like as many opinions as possible.:rock:

i'm asking this as i have just got a new brilliant silver 370z, and every other car i have owend previously including my 09 r3 rx8 that i've just sold, had paint protection applied for a little peace of mind, But with the 370z i just wanted to see

A. who has had paint protection applied??
B. if so what sort?? Eg (Ming, X pack, etc)
C. if NO paint protection from new what are you using?? Eg (zaino)

kdo2milger 10-02-2009 09:20 PM

im only using meguiars wax...

if i had the time i would do the complete zaino process...

kannibul 10-02-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYZ34 (Post 220458)
Ming paint protection or X pack or just zaino (please help)

* hey all have already ask this in the Aus thread part so dont burn me, just would like as many opinions as possible.:rock:

i'm asking this as i have just got a new brilliant silver 370z, and every other car i have owend previously including my 09 r3 rx8 that i've just sold, had paint protection applied for a little peace of mind, But with the 370z i just wanted to see

A. who has had paint protection applied??
B. if so what sort?? Eg (Ming, X pack, etc)
C. if NO paint protection from new what are you using?? Eg (zaino)

Personally, paint protection products are snake oil...

Take care of it, and you should be fine.

NeedforZ 10-02-2009 09:46 PM

I'd pick the Z over the r3 rx8 too. But what did you not like about it? Oh and the only thing that goes on my paint is Meguires.

kdo2milger 10-02-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 220482)
Personally, paint protection products are snake oil...

Take care of it, and you should be fine.

so your saying zaino is snake oil :confused:

kannibul 10-02-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 220489)
so your saying zaino is snake oil :confused:

No, Zaino is a wax.

kenchan 10-02-2009 09:48 PM

right now my Z is using Griot's Best of Show with SprayOn Wax as LSP.

kenchan 10-02-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 220491)
No, Zaino is a wax.

actually zaino is a sealant. (polymer = sealant, carnauba = wax)

kdo2milger 10-02-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 220491)
No, Zaino is a wax.

its also a paint protection product

nogoodname 10-02-2009 10:05 PM

i use in this order...... PM me for links to the products as i dont feel like searchin for them now

wash, clay, intensive polish, final polish, sealant, glaze, wax

and all other times, i use Blackfire shampoo and conditioner to clean the car up :)

2theextreme 10-02-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 220504)
i use in this order...... PM me for links to the products as i dont feel like searchin for them now

wash, clay, intensive polish, final polish, sealant, glaze, wax

and all other times, i use Blackfire shampoo and conditioner to clean the car up :)

I used Blackfire shampoo & conditioner, too....see the results:

http://www.the370z.com/members/2thee...-hair-rock.jpg

My hair came out looking GREAT!

Oh wait....thats for the car, huh? :icon14:

kdo2milger 10-02-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 220539)
I used Blackfire shampoo & conditioner, too....see the results:

http://www.the370z.com/members/2thee...-hair-rock.jpg

My hair came out looking GREAT!

Oh wait....thats for the car, huh? :icon14:

:rofl2: do u use the conditioner in your hair too :eek:

oh i just :owned: myself :roflpuke2:

2theextreme 10-02-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 220541)
:rofl2: do u use the conditioner in your hair too :eek:

oh i just :owned: myself :roflpuke2:

:bowrofl:

cab83_750 10-02-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 220539)
I used Blackfire shampoo & conditioner, too....see the results:

http://www.the370z.com/members/2thee...-hair-rock.jpg

My hair came out looking GREAT!

Oh wait....thats for the car, huh? :icon14:

Don't dare posting about police stopping you all the time while driving! We would know the reason! :) :)

2theextreme 10-02-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 220611)
Don't dare posting about police stopping you all the time while driving! We would know the reason! :) :)

:roflpuke2: I've had a few cops give me the :icon08: a few times.......so far none have stopped me.....but I know they'd love to! :icon17:

MYZ34 10-03-2009 01:54 AM

thanks for all your comments guys, i thought that there would be alot of you guys that got paint protection put on.....hmmm think i will stick to either zaino or meguires

MYZ34 10-03-2009 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedforZ (Post 220487)
I'd pick the Z over the r3 rx8 too. But what did you not like about it? Oh and the only thing that goes on my paint is Meguires.

hey "needforz" i really liked the R3 just felt very flimsy and not built as tough as the Z, i did find the R3 easier to drive especially when wet but the Z just feels great and solid and has the power in any gear when required, only thing to do now is the GTM turbo kit...:eekdance:

Trips 10-03-2009 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 220539)
I used Blackfire shampoo & conditioner, too....see the results:

http://www.the370z.com/members/2thee...-hair-rock.jpg

My hair came out looking GREAT!

Oh wait....thats for the car, huh? :icon14:

After looking at you closely your Avatar looks much better and I noticed the left sandal is different than the right what going on? or the shadow is making it look different? any ways I've got a mug shot of you that I'm going to the post office to compare with the one's already there and if not I'll post your's under wanted for holding "Caravan's Wheels Hostage" Cash reward if seen, don't approach, call police! Lastly Can you brush your hair! you look a mess.
:bowrofl:

Forrest 10-03-2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYZ34 (Post 220815)
thanks for all your comments guys, i thought that there would be alot of you guys that got paint protection put on.....hmmm think i will stick to either zaino or meguires

I am not a expert on Meguiars but its still a wax from what i seen. so far as i know its still going to melt off a black car and wash off with in a week. If i am wrong please any one feel free to correct me.

Zaino on the otherhand will last up to 6 months but i think you will see 3 months with ease. It wont melt off either.

nixxer 10-03-2009 08:27 AM

Personally, I used menzerna 85D polish then layered a few coats of blackfire wet diamond as a sealant, and topped it off with pinnacle souveran.

omg! i made a post instead of lurking! :koolaidwall:

nogoodname 10-03-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 220539)
I used Blackfire shampoo & conditioner, too....see the results:

http://www.the370z.com/members/2thee...-hair-rock.jpg

My hair came out looking GREAT!

Oh wait....thats for the car, huh? :icon14:

:icon08: it adds volume and depth........ talkin about the paint doofus......LOL

fuct 10-03-2009 09:28 AM

i think he said he messed up his foot and couldnt wear a shoe at the time. i might be wrong.

MYZ34 10-03-2009 10:36 AM

i was just reading over in another thread (exterior) regarding bird **** going through the clear coat on the Z the guys that it has happend to did'nt have paint protection? correct me if thats not right.... this was the main reason for me considering getting this applied too

kannibul 10-03-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 220494)
its also a paint protection product

I'm referring to the gimmick stuff like Simonize...or anything else a car dealership will push.

kannibul 10-03-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 220493)
actually zaino is a sealant. (polymer = sealant, carnauba = wax)

Polymer = polymer-based wax
Carnuba = natural-material based wax

nogoodname 10-03-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 220940)
i think he said he messed up his foot and couldnt wear a shoe at the time. i might be wrong.

smashed a 370z and broke his foot

kannibul 10-03-2009 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYZ34 (Post 220962)
i was just reading over in another thread (exterior) regarding bird **** going through the clear coat on the Z the guys that it has happend to did'nt have paint protection? correct me if thats not right.... this was the main reason for me considering getting this applied too

The paint is soft, and it does etch somewhat easily. Put a good wax on it and maintain it, and it won't do happen quite as easily.

That said, there comes a point where you're better off just dealing with issues like this than tryingto use every miracle product out there to try and prevent the inevitable.

It's a car. If you drive it, it will become less than what it was before you drove it. It's not an investment...short of storing it in a garage, then replacing all the parts that rot after 25 years, and hope for a good market to sell it in (ie, desirable, you don't want to be the guy that stored a ford pinto, for example)...

Anyhow.

NeedforZ 10-03-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 220898)
I am not a expert on Meguiars but its still a wax from what i seen. so far as i know its still going to melt off a black car and wash off with in a week. If i am wrong please any one feel free to correct me.

This is true it doesn't last long. The Meguiars NTX wax lasts about three months at best under the elements. I can always tell because the paint will lose that silky feel. And of course the water stops beading. I had considered the pro waxes and polishes (Zaino and others). For me, I'm not going to spend that kind of time just to eek out a little more shine.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...airsNTXWax.jpg

Dwight Frye 10-03-2009 06:46 PM

I'm a believer in Zaino. I used it with very good results starting with a new 2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe and just did the full treatment to my new 370Z. I got some bird crap on the car before I applied the Zaino and it stained the clear coat requiring a little rubbing with polish to remove. I did the Dawn dish soap wash to remove whatever wax (if any) the dealer had applied, clay bar on the paint, and then 2 coats of Zaino Z2 with the ZFX flash accellerant. The following week I washed the car with Meguiars Gold car wash, and applied 2 more coats of the Z2/ZFX mix. I also tried the new Z8 Detailer Spray as the final step and it seems to have a better anti-static property than the Z6 as I had less dust build up at the end of the week. Yes, Zaino is very labor intensive, I spent an entire day doing the first application and another afternoon applying two more coats but the results were worth it. I've been getting lots of compliments about the car and how shiny and clean it looks. A tip for you guys: Get a small (about 4" tall or so) pump spray bottle product from the travel size or sample section of your local drug store that you can dump the contents out of. Clean well to make sure it has no more hair spray or whatever inside, fill it with your favorite QD product and put it in a small zip lock baggie in case it leaks. Mine fits in the storage bin behind the passenger seat and I keep a small microfiber towel in the car as well. It really comes in handy if you find a fresh bird bomb on your paint baking in the sun.

dad 10-03-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedforZ (Post 220997)
This is true it doesn't last long. The Meguiars NTX wax lasts about three months at best under the elements. I can always tell because the paint will lose that silky feel. And of course the water stops beading. I had considered the pro waxes and polishes (Zaino and others). For me, I'm not going to spend that kind of time just to eek out a little more shine.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...airsNTXWax.jpg

I agree! 16 dollars for an "8 ounce" bottle of Zaino, no way! I'll stick with Meguiars, I'm happy and very satisfied with!

2theextreme 10-03-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 220867)
After looking at you closely your Avatar looks much better and I noticed the left sandal is different than the right what going on? or the shadow is making it look different? any ways I've got a mug shot of you that I'm going to the post office to compare with the one's already there and if not I'll post your's under wanted for holding "Caravan's Wheels Hostage" Cash reward if seen, don't approach, call police! Lastly Can you brush your hair! you look a mess.
:bowrofl:

:roflpuke2: That was taken after I finally got the myself back on two feet after the Yellow Z accident.....yes, two different shoes! And I usually tie my hair back but for that one.....it was all for show! :p

2theextreme 10-03-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 220969)
smashed a 370z and broke his foot

:icon08: Yes, I did......ugh! :p

nogoodname 10-03-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 221511)
:roflpuke2: That was taken after I finally got the myself back on two feet after the Yellow Z accident.....yes, two different shoes! And I usually tie my hair back but for that one.....it was all for show! :p

dont lie.... u wanted the wind to go through all ur hair for the pic but the breeze never came.......

2theextreme 10-03-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 221525)
dont lie.... u wanted the wind to go through all ur hair for the pic but the breeze never came.......

:eek: How'd you know? I had the camera on the 10 second timer and actually the breeze came at the 11 second mark. :shakes head:

370er 10-03-2009 10:54 PM

Yes Zaino is very expensive. The car wash liquid should be in a bigger bottle. I found it did a pretty good job though. I haven't used it on my Z yet but on my other car for a trial run. I brought one of the Zaino kits and also a bottle of the tire cleaner stuff, and a few microfiber cloths. The dealer wanted to sell me their car protection stuff but I thought it was a rip-off. At the end of the day I think the owner of the car would do a better job because they care a lot more about it. One thing I didn't like about zaino is that it was still in ounces measurements (fine if you live in US but Australia doesn't use ounces).

Should I claybar my Z? I'm wondering if it's necessary considering it's near brand new. I'm just scared of scratching the paintwork with it. I'm thinking it might do more harm than good.

nogoodname 10-03-2009 10:57 PM

u should clay bar it when its detailing time.

Trips 10-03-2009 11:25 PM

has anyone used RejeX? they say it's a good product .

vipor 10-04-2009 12:52 AM

I just hit 2k on my Z and it's time for a full detail. We've had a lot of rain over the past few weeks, but I'm hoping it will be gone soon. I've read the full write-up on Zaino and it was very helpful, but I'm thinking about just ordering some Griot's product due to a recommendation from a guy I know. I'm sure it will take the better part of a day, but based off of what I've seen when my car is clean(er), it should be worth the work. The fact that I only need a full clay and seal every few months makes it tolerable.

Forrest 10-04-2009 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedforZ (Post 220997)
This is true it doesn't last long. The Meguiars NTX wax lasts about three months at best under the elements. I can always tell because the paint will lose that silky feel. And of course the water stops beading. I had considered the pro waxes and polishes (Zaino and others). For me, I'm not going to spend that kind of time just to eek out a little more shine.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...airsNTXWax.jpg

how does zaino require more time than meguairs?

i think it uses the same ammount of time to apply both.

Forrest 10-04-2009 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 221412)
I agree! 16 dollars for an "8 ounce" bottle of Zaino, no way! I'll stick with Meguiars, I'm happy and very satisfied with!

Meguiar's Direct NXT Generation® Tech Wax® 2.0
Tech Wax 2.0 $17.99

Z-2 $14.95
ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator Additive $19.95
then add sh.

It actually cost alot more than what you implied.

If you want to layer your car to make it look very wet i think zaino is the way to go. Or if you just want longer protection then its also the way to go.

It defenitly can add up in cost. I think its worth it though. I love how deep my car shines.


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