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“Cleaner wax” usually contains a little bit of cleaning agent and maybe even a little bit of abrasives, leading to its name. So if you already have a perfect finish

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Old 09-20-2019, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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“Cleaner wax” usually contains a little bit of cleaning agent and maybe even a little bit of abrasives, leading to its name.

So if you already have a perfect finish on your clear coat (bare clear coat, no wax or sealant on it, and surface has been physically and chemically decontaminated aka clay’d and iron particles removed), then the finishing layer of wax should not contain anything other than for protection.

I believe that’s what those people were saying.
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“Cleaner wax” usually contains a little bit of cleaning agent and maybe even a little bit of abrasives, leading to its name.

So if you already have a perfect finish on your clear coat (bare clear coat, no wax or sealant on it, and surface has been physically and chemically decontaminated aka clay’d and iron particles removed), then the finishing layer of wax should not contain anything other than for protection.

I believe that’s what those people were saying.
Is the M21 one of these "cleaner waxes", tho? Can't see anything on the bottle that would lead me to believe that
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Is the M21 one of these "cleaner waxes", tho? Can't see anything on the bottle that would lead me to believe that
Sorry I do not know.
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Is the M21 one of these "cleaner waxes", tho? Can't see anything on the bottle that would lead me to believe that
Looking at the MSDS, the only thing I see that might be a cleaner is the calcined kaolin - no idea what it does but I'm guessing that it's used as a binder for the polymer/silicone sealant. Nothing on the Maguire's web site mentions "cleaning" or "abrasive" in reference to the #21.
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Looking at the MSDS, the only thing I see that might be a cleaner is the calcined kaolin - no idea what it does but I'm guessing that it's used as a binder for the polymer/silicone sealant. Nothing on the Maguire's web site mentions "cleaning" or "abrasive" in reference to the #21.
The whole cleaner and finishing thing seems like bro science to me, until somebody proves me wrong
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