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rodriguez 08-17-2011 03:06 AM

Need help with purchasing Nismo in Richmondhill
 
Hey guys,

this is my first post and I have been doing a lot of reading as to where you guys (specifically in the GTA area) purchased your cars and for various amounts. I haven't really seen anything up to date and I am so interested in buying a 370 in the next few weeks.

My situation is that I wanted to walk into a dealership and negotiate some prices on a 370 with sports package. I walked into village nissan in richmondhill and I saw the nismo 370:eek: and for some reason I just had to have it.
It was their demo version that they now have sitting in the show room with 8000km and a lot of rock chips to the hood and front bumber The dealers asking price right now is 47331 plus taxes at 1.9% for 60 months or 2.9% for 72 months.

My question is, how would you guys approach this if you were to buy it? This is my first time buying a brand new car from a dealership and I don't want a terrifying first experience. So should i ask for the invoice price on paper and negotiate from that or is there any other way you guys would go after it? Also, how would you factor in the fact that it has 8000km and a bunch of stone chips and also that the car is already there and I wouldn't have to pay for freight. How much would you guys negotiate this car for?I would greatly appreciate any help from you guys!

Da.Menace 08-17-2011 03:51 AM

Demo with 8000km? are you serious? Sounds more like used to me.
I really doubt THAT many people have been testing the Nismo since it came to Canada (March/April 2011?).

rodriguez 08-17-2011 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da.Menace (Post 1265575)
Demo with 8000km? are you serious? Sounds more like used to me.
I really doubt THAT many people have been testing the Nismo since it came to Canada (March/April 2011?).

yup about 8000 and change...the salesman did confirm that it did arrive around april. what do you think?

DjSquall 08-17-2011 05:26 AM

That's almost the price of it brand new.... Ask for $47k off and msybe they'll budge a little :D

Personally, I wouldn't.

Reality 08-17-2011 08:48 AM

OP,

The season to drive is almost at an end.. With this in mind, you should go for the jugular.!

8000km is not a demo car.. anything about 100 should be considered "USED"
-$500 on top of their invoice pricing would be fair game..

Be strong and stand your ground, be prepared to walk out if necessary
-Waiting until the end of the month to make your purchase would also be wise.
Remember to speak with the Sales Manager, as he will have the final say.

GL!

Brutal 370Z 08-17-2011 08:56 AM

If you pay the asking, you might as well order a brand new one.

Da.Menace 08-17-2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 1265743)
If you pay the asking, you might as well order a brand new one.

+1 on that.

Paskii 08-17-2011 12:33 PM

8000KM and that's consider a DEMO still? I thought after a certain amount of mileage the car is considered used. You should ask them if the car was ever titled and if the car is from Canada. I heard some dealers are selling US vehicles.

Like everyone else said if they won't budge on price just buy a brand new one, I think their tight because the Nismo model is limited in quantity. Another tactic, wait until the last week of the month before you negotiate, they may be more lax on the price because they know if they don't sell the car they will have to pay interest on it for the coming month.

somatic 08-17-2011 12:37 PM

rock chips? they know that itll be sitting in their show room for a long time if theres damage AND miles on the car.

Brutal 370Z 08-17-2011 12:46 PM

I'm confident that they will be able to knock down the price for you. Since the Nismo model is in limited quantity, they are trying to convince you that it holds its value better. This, however, is very very very far from the truth. The reality is that dealers aren't doing so well in Canada selling the Nismo model because for the same price, Canadians prefer the fully-loaded coupe. Not sure why, but when I spoke to my dealer friend, this is what he said. I guess the fully-loaded coupe is more practical as a dd.

Anyways, the point is, especially since its getting closer to winter now and the 2012 is about to come out, they are probably going to try and get rid of the car. You therefore should be successful in bringing down the price.

somatic 08-17-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 1266281)
I'm confident that they will be able to knock down the price for you. Since the Nismo model is in limited quantity, they are trying to convince you that it holds its value better. This, however, is very very very far from the truth. The reality is that dealers aren't doing so well in Canada selling the Nismo model because for the same price, Canadians prefer the fully-loaded coupe. Not sure why, but when I spoke to my dealer friend, this is what he said. I guess the fully-loaded coupe is more practical as a dd.

Anyways, the point is, especially since its getting closer to winter now and the 2012 is about to come out, they are probably going to try and get rid of the car. You therefore should be successful in bringing down the price.

:iagree:

rodriguez 08-17-2011 01:46 PM

Thank you all for the replies! I appreciate them all! And I am most definately taking them all into considertion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reality (Post 1265726)
OP,

The season to drive is almost at an end.. With this in mind, you should go for the jugular.!

8000km is not a demo car.. anything about 100 should be considered "USED"
-$500 on top of their invoice pricing would be fair game..

Be strong and stand your ground, be prepared to walk out if necessary
-Waiting until the end of the month to make your purchase would also be wise.
Remember to speak with the Sales Manager, as he will have the final say.

GL!

You are exactly right. I was thinking last night that if they got this car in april, why haven't they sold it yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 1265743)
That definitely sounds like the dealer drove the car for a few months and then decided to sell it as a "demo car". You should stand your ground and demand 45k or walk. Whoever drove it definitely drove the sh*t out of it in the past few months. If you pay the asking, you might as well order a brand new one.

is 45k invoice price? if i were to order a brand new one, which I wanted to do initially with just a sport package, would I be able to score a good deal with a new one as well since they year is almost done?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1266254)
8000KM and that's consider a DEMO still? I thought after a certain amount of mileage the car is considered used. You should ask them if the car was ever titled and if the car is from Canada. I heard some dealers are selling US vehicles.

Like everyone else said if they won't budge on price just buy a brand new one, I think their tight because the Nismo model is limited in quantity. Another tactic, wait until the last week of the month before you negotiate, they may be more lax on the price because they know if they don't sell the car they will have to pay interest on it for the coming month.


Your right, all the dealer was saying was "nismo is nismo" "very limited and you will never get one again". My inital intention was to go in and purchase a 370 with a sport package. but with the season ending. would it be wise to order one now with the snow coming?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z (Post 1266281)
I'm confident that they will be able to knock down the price for you. Since the Nismo model is in limited quantity, they are trying to convince you that it holds its value better. This, however, is very very very far from the truth. The reality is that dealers aren't doing so well in Canada selling the Nismo model because for the same price, Canadians prefer the fully-loaded coupe. Not sure why, but when I spoke to my dealer friend, this is what he said. I guess the fully-loaded coupe is more practical as a dd.

Anyways, the point is, especially since its getting closer to winter now and the 2012 is about to come out, they are probably going to try and get rid of the car. You therefore should be successful in bringing down the price.

And I would obvously get a brand new 370 with sports package for much cheaper correct? Where did you purchase your car brutal370? I would like to go meet with a dealer who I can speak to confidently and would not throw me any BS. That, and I would much rather give the commission to someone one of you guys can trust.

Thanks again guys for the responses. I hope to join you guys soon. Maybe I can talk to some of you guys that are attending the z fest?

somatic 08-17-2011 01:51 PM

dont forget to talk directly to the sales manager if possible (not the lower level ones, but the top dog, usually known as the director)

rodriguez 08-17-2011 01:54 PM

I forgot to ask,

Brutal370
Da.Menace
Reality
Paskii
Djsquall

if you guys don't mind, could you tell me where you guys purchased your 370 and for what price as well as the dealer you dealt with?

Could you guys also give me a suggestion as to what negotiation deals I can get right now for a brand new 370 with sports package with the msrp at 44898 plus taxes at 1.9%. You think they would sell at invoice?

Or should I wait until next year?

Thanks!

rodriguez 08-17-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1266381)
dont forget to talk directly to the sales manager if possible (not the lower level ones, but the top dog, usually known as the director)

Great advice. I will definately do that next time


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