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Originally Posted by 6MT I really believe you're missing the entire point of having oil tested. Or maybe, you just don't understand what an oil test looks for. You don't
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Agreed, the oil analysis also tests for the properties of the oil such as viscosity. In your example, carbon, was detected in the oil through the oil analysis. Your filter was probably defective. I say this because I have used K&N for years without issues along with millions of others. However, you were lucky because it was an easy fix - replace the filter. On the other hand, how long would your engine have lasted if gone undetected? Who knows really. Your oil filter may have been able to filter out the debris. Oil filters do not filter out all particles as you know. They only filter down to a size which is considered acceptable that those particles that do pass through won't do harm to the engine or they recirculate through back to the oil filter. Also keep in mind, the analysis only detects the elements that have leeched into the oil and not the actual particles themselves. Now if the oil filter was sent to the lab, a filter debris analysis could be performed. So, even though the analysis identified a problem, it does not mean that damage was inevitable over time. Hence, maybe the problem was not that serious to begin with. But, who knows for sure. You are happy with oil analyzing. I don't bother. Engines today are very reliable when scheduled maintenance is performed.
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Uh.... it wasn't the oil filter causing the problem. It was the air filters. And the problem WAS quite serious. The carbon detected was 42 times the acceptable level.
You also ask "how long would the engine have lasted if it had gone undetected"? Well, not as long without needing some kind of internal repair for damage caused by the excessive dirt. If you want a figure...... let's say under 50,000 kilometers (a guess). Again, I think it shows the benifits of oil analysis testing. It may cost some money ($19.95), but it saves money, time, and heartache.
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I understand what you're saying but understand why I mentioned your oil filter. Was not the carbon detected in the oil? Then it was passing through to the oil and then into the oil filter, no? How much carbon was the oil filter trapping or were the particles so small they just passed through the oil filter and recirculated continually being held in suspension in the oil? Now do you see why I mentioned the oil filter? I'm not trying to win any argument but I'm saying there is more to the numbers than just saying it was 42 times higher and that equates to catastrophic failure. I know you didn't say that but some in here would believe that. But a 100 times higher could still be acceptable if the particles were drained out at the next change and the next change and so on (constant flushing out of the contaminants) and still not cause damage for say, 50000 as you suggest or maybe even 100,000. Neither one of us knows the answer and as you said can only guess. You were lucky you could flush your problem away. Internal wear is a different ballgame.
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