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edconline 02-03-2012 12:39 AM

^ If you had 4 million dollars, you would stick with the Z and get the turbo :confused:







;)

pyrrhus17 02-03-2012 07:13 AM

:icon18: :bowrofl::roflpuke2::happydance::inoutroflpuke::ow ned::rofl2:Well thats what I get for trying to type something . Anyway yes if I had endless money I would turbo the Z . The set up looks great could you post anymore info here ,say WHP/TQ potential with a stock set up and maybe the total system potential ? Where are you sourcing your parts .Some kits use substandard parts to lower cost. How long does an install take ? how many kits are on cars now ? how long have they had them ? Can we ask owners about their expierences with your system ? Does the Sasha turbo system tune any different from any other system ? Does the SMMTS (Sasha mid mount turbo system) have any weeknesses .Like the oil pump for the turbo on some systems , any turbo lag ? .How about the rain / snow rocks and the position of the turbo does it get damaged ? Is the heat in the engine bay an issue or is it reduced with this system ? Just trying to think of some general question people might ask . We as 370z owners (limited production car That will probably change in 2014) have pretty limited options for safe boost so anything that looks this good is great . Give us a **** ton of info and please post this in the FI section.

Boosted Performance 02-03-2012 09:38 AM

Answers are in red:


Quote:

Originally Posted by pyrrhus17 (Post 1523811)
The set up looks great could you post anymore info here ,say WHP/TQ

I have customers that are in the mid 600whp range on 350z's



potential with a stock set up and maybe the total system potential ?

The stage I turbo would be a 6266 capable of producing more than enough to bend all of the connecting rods on a stock block. The next size up would be the 6766, and it would get you to 700+on pump E85 (600 pump gas). These are Precision billet true T4 turbos, with .68 .81 and .96 a/r options. Take those small T3 turbos and :gtfo2:





Where are you sourcing your parts .Some kits use substandard parts to lower cost.

Parts are high quality. Stainless exhaust, with stainless flanges, aluminum tig welded IC piping, Tial wastegates, Tial BOV's Precision turbos (JB and BB available), all stainless braid oil lines (no rubber crap like STS), best (and most expensive) oil return pump on the market...ect. Nothing cheap here.


How long does an install take ? how many kits are on cars now ? how long have they had them ?

There are over 20 turbo kits out on 350z's, and all of my customers have installed these themselves. I make the install very easy, with a 40 page color install manual. Install takes about 8 hours, including fuel pump and injectors.


Can we ask owners about their expierences with your system ?

You can search "Boosted Performance" on my350z.com and will find a large number of great reviews for the kit I offer the kit.

Does the Sasha turbo system tune any different from any other system ? Does the SMMTS (Sasha mid mount turbo system) have any weeknesses .Like the oil pump for the turbo on some systems , any turbo lag ?

It is Boosted Performance, not Sasha systems...:bowrofl: 20 kits out running without issues for a long time now, no weakness. See above regarding pump. Turbo lag? You need to read up on turbos 101...:icon23:

.How about the rain / snow rocks and the position of the turbo does it get damaged ? Is the heat in the engine bay an issue or is it reduced with this system ?

No, I have put about 20k on my car without a single issue. I have customers that have been driving the cars with this kit in the winter, no issues. It is a closed system...as any other out there.


Just trying to think of some general question people might ask . We as 370z owners (limited production car That will probably change in 2014) have pretty limited options for safe boost so anything that looks this good is great . Give us a **** ton of info and please post this in the FI section.


There is no such thing as "safe boost" on a car that was not built for it. Safe is a relevant term, and largely depends on the power output and tune.


O&G 02-03-2012 01:25 PM

Sasha is on top of his game. Price and performance seem spot on! Another option for 370Z owners out there. Lovin it!

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wheee! 02-03-2012 01:45 PM

It is absolutely fantastic to have guys of this calibre here in Canada! No need to drive round the world for top notch custom work...

+1 to Boosted Z

Boosted Performance 02-03-2012 02:24 PM

This is my engine bay, on my car and how all others look with this kit:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...INstall057.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...INstall060.jpg

Billet PTE turbos:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...65/6765003.jpg

I am the only person to offer these, as all others offer the old cast compressor wheel turbos.

Also use one of the larger intercoolers on the market, vertical flow, identical in size to the APS TT systems. The core measures 25"x9"x3.5".

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...C/IMG_5869.jpg

6MT 02-03-2012 02:48 PM

I've seen this car. It is dope!

Boosted Performance 02-13-2012 04:20 PM

Give you guys a bit of a teaser:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/S1032270.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/S1032273.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/S1032275.jpg

This is something I am working on my own (350z) car at the moment. At the same time this is very close to what the 370z turbo kit will look like, and where the turbo would be located. it is above the front skid plate, so the is simply no chance of it ever hitting anything.

This will also be a first on any N/A Z's, as I will be using a true twin scroll turbine with equal length primaries, utilizing the VQ's pulses (firing order) to spool up the turbo. I plan on completing the hop pipes by the end of t his week. Don't mind the open T4 turbine housing as I am still waiting for the twin to show up.

I think the 370z has more room to work with as well, because the lower sub frame is one piece of aluminum.

O&G 02-13-2012 04:30 PM

looking good Canada, yea the 370Z has a bit more room in that area!

wheee! 02-13-2012 06:29 PM

wow! I imagine the air filter is a PITA to clean and change too then....

Boosted Performance 02-13-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1542157)
wow! I imagine the air filter is a PITA to clean and change too then....

No, it can be removed rather easily. I also think that there is more room on that side on the 370, so the filter may end up in the engine bay. Will see how it looks once I have one here.

I have been driving my car for over two years with the filter in that location, in all kinds of weather, and never had any issues. Neither have any of my customers (about 20 with the same kit).

O&G 02-13-2012 06:59 PM

I have my filter in the same location w/ no issues and GTM Stg. II s/c filter sits in same location. If you order the GTM Stg. II engine mount for the passenger side it will free up room to run piping forward to the bumper area or wherever you choose to locate the filter. I will be ordering the mount as soon as it becomes available on their website. I'm sure we could have fabed one up, but GTM has already done all the leg work making life easier.

Ron 02-13-2012 08:16 PM

PS reservois for the 370Z? UAM is taking FOREVER to release theirs..

Boosted Performance 02-13-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1542189)
I have my filter in the same location w/ no issues and GTM Stg. II s/c filter sits in same location. If you order the GTM Stg. II engine mount for the passenger side it will free up room to run piping forward to the bumper area or wherever you choose to locate the filter. I will be ordering the mount as soon as it becomes available on their website. I'm sure we could have fabed one up, but GTM has already done all the leg work making life easier.

Funny you mention engine mounts:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...5872790914.jpg


That is the prototype, and I have a built set waiting to go in my own car. Although these look like solid mounts (and they are) they are about 1/2" shorter than OEM. I plan on using a special, very hard rubber compound between the mount and engine sub frame. This will stiffen things up, yet keep the unwanted vibrations/noise to a minimum, because the rubber will act as a damper.

Like you said, it creates a ton of room when installed over the OEM mounts.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1542316)
PS reservois for the 370Z? UAM is taking FOREVER to release theirs..

If I have the donor car long enough, I can look in to this, as well as a differential brace. All of these will be free of course for the donor car.

O&G 02-13-2012 08:39 PM

Yea, that will clear up some space for sure. Looking good!

Zat_Zuma 02-14-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1542331)
If I have the donor car long enough, I can look in to this, as well as a differential brace. All of these will be free of course for the donor car.


I just may volunteer my car for that brace :tup:

Plus I may have some aluminum bung intercooler welding and a header bung weld that will be need to be done, in the near future, if your interested :tiphat:

We will talk in the spring, as I have some concerns about the brace.

Boosted Performance 02-14-2012 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 1543048)
I just may volunteer my car for that brace :tup:

Plus I may have some aluminum bung intercooler welding and a header bung weld that will be need to be done, in the near future, if your interested :tiphat:

We will talk in the spring, as I have some concerns about the brace.

Lloyd, just let me know when you are ready. I have a car lift on the way as well, but it should be ready for spring.

Zat_Zuma 02-14-2012 11:50 AM

Sweet :tup: I wish my garage roof was tall enough for a lift too

Sounds good Sasha, I should have the rear suspension member piece off and the diff removed in late March or April.

I'm planning on installing the SPL rear diff bushing kit, DSS axles, and maybe the SPL Monoball bushings on the rear axle housing. I know there is no room to work with the pieces in the car (been there) and since it will be 3/4 apart anyways ...... a hydraulic press will be a lot faster than trying to do the diff bushing by hand with garage tools.

Any good places that have a hydraulic press, that can do the job?

6MT 02-14-2012 12:00 PM

Lloyd, we can do that here.

erkthejerk73 02-14-2012 12:58 PM

Looking good Sasha!

Zat_Zuma 02-14-2012 03:03 PM

Good to know Andy :tup:..... and it's close to home

Boosted Performance 02-16-2012 09:14 PM

The idea here was to make it a very easy/simple to install/remove. The other very important thing is that the exhaust banks are separated all the way, and the exhaust piping length from header to turbo is the same (within 1/2").

Now on to the good stuff..

Passenger side section:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6795.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6796.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6799.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6798.jpg


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6807.jpg


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6812.jpg


There is still a lot of room here:


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6815.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6818.jpg

All new 66mm turbine wheel:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6829.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6821.jpg



I will be able to use the all new Precision 6266 or 6766 T4 turbs, with the following a/r housing options: .84, 1.0, 1.15 and 1.32.


I plan on using a single Precisoin 46mm wastegate with this setup to keep the cost down. It will also be easier to recirculate back to the down pipe for those not wanting all the noise.

The main reason for doing this on my car is to get an idea of how the 370z kit will go together because this is very close to what the 370z kit will look like as well. I really like the way it turned out, and this will be a very efficient kit. Because the two banks are seperated all the way through to the turbine it will work almost like a twin turbo kit.

GaleForce 02-16-2012 09:19 PM

Nice work! Quality stuff!

O&G 02-16-2012 09:50 PM

:yum:delicious! We did a similar setup on a 350Z w/ great results! Where did you get your filter, custom made? Can't wait to see it all finished up, great progress!

Boosted Performance 02-16-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1548412)
:yum:delicious! We did a similar setup on a 350Z w/ great results! Where did you get your filter, custom made? Can't wait to see it all finished up, great progress!

Thanks.

No, I have a bunch of these in stock. Bought them a while ago and they just happen to work out so well for this. 3" neck wtih a 20deg built in elbow.

Oh I just noticed the JTran build in your sig. I remember that...I am on the "other" Z forum. I am Boosted Performance (vendor) there. You gusy went over the transmission for te crossover, and I didn't like that because the install/servicing would be a PITA. I like to make things simple. You guys used a GT4088 I think, also twin scroll. That car moved very well at the drag strip, nice driving too.

O&G 02-16-2012 09:55 PM

Yea, the elbow is perfect, care to share where you got them?

Boosted Performance 02-16-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1548432)
Yea, the elbow is perfect, care to share where you got them?

Kool Blue KUD7501-3, I think I got them on ebay a long time ago (best price I could find.

O&G 02-16-2012 10:06 PM

Has anyone w/ a 370 contacted you yet? If I were up North I would have jumped on this in a heartbeat. Welds look great and you got the physics down pat. If/when you get your hands on a 370, try to get a baseline dyno number and then an after install/tune dyno. I would love to see the actual gains, so many people on forums post stupid numbers w/ no real backup or clear example of how much power was really gained. I know it's going to laydown some great numbers and boost response will be good w/ your manifold design. Lowmount single snail ftw!

O&G 02-16-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1548453)
Kool Blue KUD7501-3, I think I got them on ebay a long time ago (best price I could find.

Thanks for the info, +rep for thinking outside the box and part number wahooo!!

Boosted Performance 02-16-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1548463)
Has anyone w/ a 370 contacted you yet? If I were up North I would have jumped on this in a heartbeat. Welds look great and you got the physics down pat. If/when you get your hands on a 370, try to get a baseline dyno number and then an after install/tune dyno. I would love to see the actual gains, so many people on forums post stupid numbers w/ no real backup or clear example of how much power was really gained. I know it's going to laydown some great numbers and boost response will be good w/ your manifold design. Lowmount single snail ftw!


Thanks, and yes I do have a 370 lined up for all of April. If all goes to plan, I should have a production low mount kit for the 370Z out in about 3 months.
As for the dyno, I know what you mean. There has been some recent dynos posted with a top mount on a G37, and I must admit the numners look out of wack to me. It is easy to make any kit look good with an in-house dyno.

I will see if the owner of the 370z would want to put it on the dyno before fabrication starts.

O&G 02-16-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1548607)
Thanks, and yes I do have a 370 lined up for all of April. If all goes to plan, I should have a production low mount kit for the 370Z out in about 3 months.
As for the dyno, I know what you mean. There has been some recent dynos posted with a top mount on a G37, and I must admit the numners look out of wack to me. It is easy to make any kit look good with an in-house dyno.

I will see if the owner of the 370z would want to put it on the dyno before fabrication starts.

That's exactly what I mean. S&R's dyno reads almost 100whp higher than our Mustang Dyno, but a lot of people know that about their dyno already. 525whp @ 7psi and claiming it was the UpRev tune that accomplished that is LOL! Overselling w/ deceiving numbers is lame. Their kit looks good but a baseline of that G37 was probably 375whp.

Good luck w/ everything. Business should pick up after you finish the 370!

O&G 02-16-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1548607)
I will see if the owner of the 370z would want to put it on the dyno before fabrication starts.

Tell him/her I'll throw down for some baseline pulls. Shouldn't be too bad $60.00, 3 pulls, lol? I got your back, paypal ftw! I just think it will be that much easier for you to sell the kit/silence the haters! I have no doubt on the power as my kit is similar ;-)

O&G 02-17-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1548422)
Oh I just noticed the JTran build in your sig. I remember that...I am on the "other" Z forum. I am Boosted Performance (vendor) there. You gusy went over the transmission for te crossover, and I didn't like that because the install/servicing would be a PITA. I like to make things simple. You guys used a GT4088 I think, also twin scroll. That car moved very well at the drag strip, nice driving too.

Just read this, yea that car made great power and the customer did some great driving. Too bad he wouldn't take Johnny's advice and step up to a more adequate fuel system for the power he was putting down. He blew his motor, sold the kit and the car. He's starting over w/ a 370 probably. Yes, your kit will be way easier to sell to the masses, as install will be easy, less piping, no modifications or taking things apart and putting back together and w/ better spool up time than the STS and S&R design, IMO. Should have no problem selling a few kits, let us know what you plan to include in a "kit" when you get around to it.

This should be in FI section, another option for the VHR!

wheee! 02-17-2012 01:59 PM

Damn! I need to see this car in April! I assume this car is Yellow... right? lol

Zat_Zuma 02-17-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1550120)
Damn! I need to see this car in April! I assume this car is Yellow... right? lol

:icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18:

troublemaker :stirthepot:

wheee! 02-17-2012 04:13 PM

well, as you know... it's "ka'ching before Zing"...!

Boosted Performance 02-18-2012 03:49 PM

I managed to get the 3" down pipe tacked up, looks very good IMO:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6886.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6883.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6872.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_6876.jpg






I still have to figure out where the scavenge pump will be mounted, and the wastegate routing/configuration. I will also have to build an extra exhaust hanger that will probably mount to the back of the transmission, so that it holds the weight of the turbo. Would rather not have the headers holding it up there alon.

wheee! 02-18-2012 04:04 PM

Looks Awesome!!

edconline 02-18-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1550120)
Damn! I need to see this car in April! I assume this car is White... right? lol

Fixed. ;)

wheee! 02-18-2012 07:39 PM

Let's just say i know this car is from the Zedmonton Lounge! lol


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