Hotchkis are hollow.
Adjusted wall thickness and increased diameter gives performance while reducing weight. About a third less weight than solid.
I run them on the softest setting and find them great.

Hotch-track
Stillen- DD

I dont know man, sounds like youre gonna come back to us sooner than later.

any reviews/opinions from people who ACTUALLY HAVE different sway bars, hehe?! any...?

I have the Hotchkis and it is currently the stiffest setup, not sure about Cusco. The downside to the Hotchkis is that it is really too stiff for the street and will impact your turn-in grip if you don't add negative camber. On the track the stiffer the better but on the street I think the Stillen is the best compromise.

is the stillen a good option for occasional auto-x since it obviously is softer for better DD, but it has the stiffer rear setting also? if you watch the hotchkis vid comparing it to stock, you can see the turn-in goes south with the hotch.

Yeah, I'd say the Stillen would probably do well for auto-x. When I put the Hotchkis on I had horrible understeer at the auto-x event the following week, this is because of the super stiff front bar. I had to buy camber arms and set front camber to -2.5, it was around -0.8 stock.

I have the Stillen. The ride is a little stiffer but the handling around cornering have improved.

ok this was the detail i was looking for!

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I have the Stillen and they are great for the street. I have 15mm spacers on the rear only, which add a small amount of understeer. I set the Stillen rears up on the softest setting, which is still 37% stiffer than stock, while the front is 29% stiffer than stock. I feel like I dialed out some of the understeer, while retaining a good balance for daily driving.

John

and then you would want to switch to the stiffer setting for auto-x i take it.

Possibly, stiffer rear will dial out more understeer/dial in more oversteer, many want totally neutral, I like a very small amount of understeer.

I prefer neutral with a hint of oversteer. Not too much though or you'll mess up in high speed slaloms and fast transitions.

It's definitely best to auto-x the car at least a couple of times on the stock sway bars so that you have a good feel of what it is going to do. It gets a lot more responsive with the stiffer bars which means quicker weight transfer, but also means that you have to be quicker to keep up with it.

LOL, we're probably not too far off..... you're just to the oversteer side of neutral, and I'm just to the understeer side of neutral. :tiphat:

One of these days someone is going to have to explain to me the difference between Over-/under-steer. I myself don't track, and don't know much about it. But sway bars/suspension is something I would like to upgrade.