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PharmDZ 04-22-2014 09:04 PM

Dumb question... Correct me if I'm wrong but the rears are gonna sell for $650?? Aren't they smaller than the fronts? Dunno why they'd be more expensive.

gomer_110 04-22-2014 09:05 PM

Should have my set tomorrow. Can't wait to get them on. :excited:

edconline 04-22-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ (Post 2791310)
Dumb question... Correct me if I'm wrong but the rears are gonna sell for $650?? Aren't they smaller than the fronts? Dunno why they'd be more expensive.


The rear rotors were more expensive when RB debuted them too, I'd imagine they cost more to produce and develop seeing as they have to retain the ebrake.


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slam1918 04-22-2014 09:47 PM

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Z1 2 piece rotor set front & rear installed with new pads,SS lines & Moto fluid

There seemed to be some question as to the weight of the rear rotors. My bathroom scale shows a 5 lb reduction from factory to Z1.

Tip on the install. you will probably have to back off the star wheels adjuster on the emergency brake. Check the tension on the brake assembly before re mounting the tires. On the rear I used the old caliper pins as the ones Z1 sent in the kit were too long and looked silly stickin out of the caliper.

She will be getting a wheel alignment tomorrow & then brake break in.

edconline 04-22-2014 09:52 PM

Oh boy, please tell me these are available without the cross drilling!


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DEpointfive0 04-22-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ (Post 2791310)
Dumb question... Correct me if I'm wrong but the rears are gonna sell for $650?? Aren't they smaller than the fronts? Dunno why they'd be more expensive.

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2791380)
The rear rotors were more expensive when RB debuted them too, I'd imagine they cost more to produce and develop seeing as they have to retain the ebrake.


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:iagree:

It's R&D costs as well as how much of a BITCH it is to make...

DEpointfive0 04-22-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2791389)
Oh boy, please tell me these are available without the cross drilling!


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Yep, slotted FTW. Ordered mine already

6MT-Z34 04-22-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slam1918 (Post 2791385)
Z1 2 piece rotor set front & rear installed with new pads,SS lines & Moto fluid

There seemed to be some question as to the weight of the rear rotors. My bathroom scale shows a 5 lb reduction from factory to Z1.

Tip on the install. you will probably have to back off the star wheels adjuster on the emergency brake. Check the tension on the brake assembly before re mounting the tires. On the rear I used the old caliper pins as the ones Z1 sent in the kit were too long and looked silly stickin out of the caliper.

She will be getting a wheel alignment tomorrow & then brake break in.

Nice! I think the rotors are directional I'm not 100% sure but u might want to check it before doing the alignment and brake in...?

DEpointfive0 04-22-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 2791412)
Nice! I think the rotors are directional I'm not 100% sure but u might want to check it before doing the alignment and brake in...?

They are.

And slam1918 installed them wrong if I'm not mistaken

slam1918 04-22-2014 10:11 PM

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what's the beef with X drill??? I have an 04 Joe Gibbs Silverado with 175k miles Magnuson blower & Baer slotted X drilled rotors all around. I drove the crap out of it in the S. Florida heat & not a peep out of em. Changed pads @ 75k & didn't have to resurface the rotors.

Chuck33079 04-22-2014 10:12 PM

They are much more prone to cracking than blank or slotted, especially with track use.

DEpointfive0 04-22-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slam1918 (Post 2791419)
what's the beef with X drill??? I have an 04 Joe Gibbs Silverado with 175k miles Magnuson blower & Baer slotted X drilled rotors all around. I drove the crap out of it in the S. Florida heat & not a peep out of em. Changed pads @ 75k & didn't have to resurface the rotors.

Drilled rotors are infinitely more prone to cracking. You probably won't crack them with any amount of aggressive street driving in any temp, but tracking would probably do it.

I get upset that if stress cracks occur the manufacturer is blamed... Which is BS...

edconline 04-22-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2791416)
They are.

And slam1918 installed them wrong if I'm not mistaken

I believe them to be backwards as well. Based on their pictures on the site. The cooling vanes need to be angled towards the rear in order to evacuate heat from the rotor. If they were straight vaned I don't think it would matter which direction the slots ran, but they appear to be curved from the pics.

slam1918 04-23-2014 05:07 AM

Funny Z1 tech told me on the phone cooling vanes in between the rotor surfaces go toward the front to scoop air and assist in cooling but I will triple check with them. Maybe if Z1 is peeking in on this site they can chime in. The pic is front & rear but thanks for pointing that out. I'll confirm today.

edconline 04-23-2014 07:36 AM

They may have said that however unless their rotor design defies conventional wisdom/practices re: curved vane rotors, I think it was bad information.

Installation:
MOTOR Magazine Article | MOTOR Information Systems
https://www.drt-sport.com/faq
How to properly install plain, slotted, or drilled brake rotors

Good discussion on it here:
Direction of rotation - RacingBrake Forums


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