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Old 12-12-2013, 10:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ill add my review in here

I put mine on last weekend and I am really enjoying the extra nimbleness added to the front of the car. It is a noticeable improvement!

I kept the OEM pads for now...no other braking mods either for now.

One thing that isnt really being talked about so far is the larger width of the cooling track and directional vanes. I didnt get a picture of this but if you compare it to stock its a no brainer this is absolutely going to help with cooling.
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Ill add my review in here

I put mine on last weekend and I am really enjoying the extra nimbleness added to the front of the car. It is a noticeable improvement!

I kept the OEM pads for now...no other braking mods either for now.

One thing that isnt really being talked about so far is the larger width of the cooling track and directional vanes. I didnt get a picture of this but if you compare it to stock its a no brainer this is absolutely going to help with cooling.
Hmmm that can hurt to though. Less metal means the rotor will heat up faster. It will be a fine line which comes first.
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Hmmm that can hurt to though. Less metal means the rotor will heat up faster. It will be a fine line which comes first.
Whats wrong with the initial warm up occurring slightly faster, if the max temp is ultimately slightly lowered?
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Whats wrong with the initial warm up occurring slightly faster, if the max temp is ultimately slightly lowered?
THAT would be ok. But baits are used to slow you down. Slow down, less air, hotter.
More meat means that if a disc is 400 degrees, you hit the brakes, heat them to 500. Less meat means you heated them to 550, yeah, it will cool faster, but 550 May have already killed you're pads and fluid.


All that being said, I LOVE my Z1 rotors. Definitely can feel the performance
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THAT would be ok. But baits are used to slow you down. Slow down, less air, hotter.
More meat means that if a disc is 400 degrees, you hit the brakes, heat them to 500. Less meat means you heated them to 550, yeah, it will cool faster, but 550 May have already killed you're pads and fluid.


All that being said, I LOVE my Z1 rotors. Definitely can feel the performance
I see your point but on the flip side of that the Z1 rotor may not be at 400 initially. Maybe it's at 375 and goes up to 490...bigger jump in temp but still lower than stock and then cools back down faster than stock.

lol, truth is we dont know. but I love the rotors
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rotors look sweet man...I'll wait for the rears to become available before I pick up a set.
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But is it? Its a chicken or the egg come first kind of thing. More metal means in turn 1 from say 140mph down to 40 you heat a thicker rotor to xxx while a less material rotor goes higher. Now onto turn 2 the more airy less material rotor is cooling faster but it started at a higher temp in the first place. Now only turn 3 will show the winner as one will be hotter and will have more fade which means you need to brake later ultimately. Tracks will also differ a winner depending on braking zones etc. like a bike with sprockets, one setup doesn't work everywhere.
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I see your point but on the flip side of that the Z1 rotor may not be at 400 initially. Maybe it's at 375 and goes up to 490...bigger jump in temp but still lower than stock and then cools back down faster than stock.

lol, truth is we dont know. but I love the rotors
I see both views. What I get told all the time by hard core track guys is that they go to a BBK not for extra stopping power, more for extra meat. Because they can get maybe 10 track days on OEM rotors, but since the BBKs have more meat they take more heat and may last 20 at best
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Whats wrong with the initial warm up occurring slightly faster, if the max temp is ultimately slightly lowered?
But is it? Its a chicken or the egg come first kind of thing. More metal means in turn 1 from say 140mph down to 40 you heat a thicker rotor to xxx while a less material rotor goes higher. Now onto turn 2 the more airy less material rotor is cooling faster but it started at a higher temp in the first place. Now only turn 3 will show the winner as one will be hotter and will have more fade which means you need to brake later ultimately. Tracks will also differ a winner depending on braking zones etc. like a bike with sprockets, one setup doesn't work everywhere.
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