Aftermarket sway bars, stock endlinks?
 

Hi,

Gathering all that I need to redo suspension and minor brake mods over the winter. Should be receiving both front and rear Whiteline sways in the next few days. For those of you running aftermarket swaybars, are you using the stock endlinks or aftermarket? Checked out SPL's links and a little pricey at the $410 mark.

Or I'd be up for other alternatives, not planning on tracking the car, but ya never know when a little spirited driving may come into play.

TIA!!!!

You will definitely need end links if your car is lowered. Your stock end links will fail under the load of the after market sway bars. Spl is cool..

Car will be lowered, maybe not to the extreme, but this is the look that always seems to catch my attention when looking thru albums. Already have SPL's front and rear camber arms, along with Fortune 500 coilover setup. Why I am even questioning using the stock links after what I already have in it to put on in beyond me. I'll take all input though!!! :bowrofl: This is not a DD, but do plan on driving the car frequently when weather permits.

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Hey guys, I just picked up some Hotchkis sway bars. And I just seen this thread. i'm not lowerd as of yet will I need new endlinks? if im running stock? I do autocross. :tiphat:

I got the Hotchkis sway bars, front and rear. Just installed the SPL end links. when I adjusted the end links. I could feel about an 1/8" of play in the stock links.

Whats a good place to get some and or brand for endlinks?

corner3. SPL's.

im running stock endlinks on my kangaroo front swaybar. 3k miles no issue so far.
otherwise my suspension is stock.

car's already put away for winter so will add more miles next season. :)

forgot to mention, im using the soft setting on the whiteline front. stock rear bar.

lol thought there was a new brand of sways for a second



i'd like some spl endlinks but my car is holding up fine with the stock links :)

I ran Hotchkis sways with stock endlinks for about 1 year before the stock rear ones broke - rear sway was set at loosest setting. Not only did the endlink break, the nut sheared off the bolt on the passenger side.

So I ended up running with the sway only connected to the driver's side for quite a long time (basically no sway bar in the rear).

Recently switched to SPLs when I lowered the car. I would recommend making the switch now since you'll already have the car disassembled and it will be easy to replace. The stock ones will eventually fail and you'll have to replace them.

Agreed if you are going to have the car apart anyways, you might as well install them! SPL is the way to go

;)

I hate you... :rofl2:

Hey, I got to get all of the things I want before retirement. :tup:

So a rear bar is not really a must have on the Z?

I've seen aftermarket fail too. Seems time will destroy them all.

Just to give the other side of the spectrum, I have stillen sways on my g37 coupe, with stock endlinks and KW v3's. I've done many track days with this setup and the stock endlinks are still ok. And I run the Stillen sways at full stiff F&R.

So perhaps it's just a wide distribution of strength and you hope to be lucky and fall on the strong side!

Do I need to install end links if my car isn't lowered and I install the hotchkis sway bars? Sorry if I sound stupid but I'm not familiar w/ this stuff at all.

I got to smile
 

Getting after market sway bars. If you're not going all out road racing & do other suspension work as well, I see no point of doing that. I bet if you took your stock front or your rear sway bar out, almost nobody would notice.

Just to have front and rear sway bars is good. Not important subject to me, just saying :rolleyes:

Actually, aftermarket sways make a nice difference in daily driving as well. Body roll is reduced to almost nothing.

I'll take your word but
 

I would think & experienced it, that making turns harder/quicker to a point where you really want to test the car or have more fun, the tires & the rest of the car suspension parts would give up before the traction bars. I've held the stock traction/sway bars in my hands. To go beyond the limits of those heavy steel bars, you better change tires, wheels & most of the stock suspension parts. Having sway bars that stay together & everything else fall apart makes no sense.

Subject is not important to me, and I know modding is part of the fun, but after holding & checking the stock sway bars, I feel it's probably the strongest part of the under car.

Willing to listen/learn from someone that's involved & knows. "feels" "by the feel of my pants" are not my favorite answers.

Aftermarket sway bars, stock endlinks?
 

You're incorrect. Swapping out sways is a very noticeable difference. You've held the sways from a 370 in your hands? They're not particularly thick. Do a quick search and see how many people have positive experiences changing out the stock sways.

Finding a cheap used set of sways is easy and you can sell them for about what you paid for them give it a shot. You'll be shocked how much of a difference they make.

I currently have stock suspension with just eibach sways and it does indeed make a very large difference in body roll and increased confidence in handling

Love them!

Soooooo I don't need new end links if my car isn't lowered?

The stock ones will probably break at some point.

how much are stock endlinks anyone know?

Aftermarket sway bars, stock endlinks?
 

I don't remember offhand, but the Whitelines are pretty cheap as far as aftermarket ones go. Wait until the OEM ones break, then upgrade.

road course driving is not my specialty
 

I live in upstate N.Y. There are many lightly traveled country roads here. I used to, since I'm "special" "slightly touched in the head" do some very "spirited" driving.
The first thing I noticed when going fast on curvy roads was my car leaning to it's limits then the tires started to scream. For those not familiar with that scream, it's like when you're with a girl and, never mind. :rolleyes:

My biggest fear was the tires losing their grip or the rubber/tire slipping off the wheel. I think stiff sway bars would be a must for drifting. I think if my car didn't lean so much, I probably would have drifted into a tree.

Now I'm a big believer in parts matching each other/working together. That post^^^^^^ you just posted helps me explain. Again, this is not my expertise, but I think just like a high performance camshafts can make you lose H.P. without matching H.D spring, & or upgraded exhaust, tune, gas, etc. etc. I think heavy duty sway bars need more stuff to be affective. Of course they may help in a right turn that you calls for 10mph & you make it at 15mph :)

I'm open to listen & learn from you and more from people with road track experience.

Stick with the stock end links for now. Eyeball them any time you're under the car. ;)

Aftermarket sway bars, stock endlinks?
 

Andre- Sway bars don't need anything other parts to be effective. At some point, they will break the OEM links. That doesn't mean that they're not effective without them. Go find a used set of 350 sways. You will love the feel. Sways are the best bang for the buck mod I've bought on every single car I've modded. They transform the car.

For you nay'sayers about aftermarket sway bars. If you haven't tried them. You don't know what you are missing! And have no business talking about them because you have no experince with them. :mad:

The ones I was looking at was from my 08350z. & of course what I tested. Are you saying the 370 sway bars are not as good?

It's not important. Let's end this & enjoy your mods.

How much do the whiteline end links run for?

I think I paid $150 or less.

Just to compare. The SPL's are about $200 a set.

That's about $500 for sway bars and end links. Might as well buy HFCs...

You don't have to buy the end links immediately. Might as well wait until the OEM ones break. And sways will be a much more worthwhile mod than HFCs. You'll notice them every time you turn the wheel.

Decided to hold off on the end links until they break or next spring. Ordered a set of Avant Gardes M310's instead. Anyone have a lead on a full set of TPMS's???? Appreciate all the responses, place is a great wealth of knowledge.

Why do the stock end links end up breaking?