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Rusty 10-27-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibby1113 (Post 2543721)
Why do the stock end links end up breaking?

Mine had some slop in them.

sparky 10-27-2013 09:49 PM

I asked earlier and didn't get any responses, can a suspension guru chime in on whether both bars should be upgraded or just the front on this car?
TIA. :tiphat:

Wonka2581 10-27-2013 09:58 PM

If I wait till my stock endlinks snap. Will it hurt the car or the new swaybars?

critical 10-27-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 2543814)
I asked earlier and didn't get any responses, can a suspension guru chime in on whether both bars should be upgraded or just the front on this car?
TIA. :tiphat:

i'd say do both. i drove right after i swapped my front bar and it felt weird. the rear brought everything together. i have a 35mm front bar though

Rusty 10-28-2013 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 2543814)
I asked earlier and didn't get any responses, can a suspension guru chime in on whether both bars should be upgraded or just the front on this car?
TIA. :tiphat:

The Hotchkis comes as a set.

Rusty 10-28-2013 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2543823)
If I wait till my stock endlinks snap. Will it hurt the car or the new swaybars?

Shouldn't, unless the broken end hits something. It should just hang down.

Gibby1113 10-28-2013 02:12 PM

Do the end links break cuz the sway bar is set to the stiffest setting? Or what exactly makes them break?

Chuck33079 10-28-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibby1113 (Post 2544497)
Do the end links break cuz the sway bar is set to the stiffest setting? Or what exactly makes them break?

The way I understand it is the stiffer sway resists the movement of the endlink more, putting greater strain on the link. Eventually, it ***** the bed.

sparky 11-10-2013 04:16 PM

Ordered the Eibach sways f/r from Tire rack, will post impressions once their installed.
I have the Z Speed shroud to go on too along with an oil change.
Now just debating aftermarket end links.
Sometimes this car is worse than owning a boat. :rofl2:

Rusty 11-10-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 2563183)
Ordered the Eibach sways f/r from Tire rack, will post impressions once their installed.
I have the Z Speed shroud to go on too along with an oil change.
Now just debating aftermarket end links.
Sometimes this car is worse than owning a boat. :rofl2:

No, some vehicles beg to be played with. The Z is one of one. :eek:

Optimiser 11-11-2013 05:19 AM

Just ordered Whiteline front and rear anti sway bars with Whiteline rear links. Will be fitted by end of this week. :happydance:

kenchan 11-11-2013 09:53 AM

i thought the rear whiteline endlinks break so people were now getting spl's rear links? :confused:

ask rusty.

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2564048)
i thought the rear whiteline endlinks break so people were now getting spl's rear links? :confused:

ask rusty.

I'm waiting on a SPL set to replace my whitelines. :mad:

kenchan 11-11-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2564050)
I'm waiting on a SPL set to replace my whitelines. :mad:

oh, and chuck... :ugh:

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2564103)
oh, and chuck... :ugh:

Yeah, the balljoint started to fail. Also (and this is partially installer error) the nut loosened itself up over time, and rubbed some of the threads smooth so you couldn't tighten the nut down all the way so it always clunked.

To be fair, this is the first Whiteline product I've ever had a problem with, and I pretty much had their entire catalogue on my STi.

kenchan 11-11-2013 11:14 AM

yah, we've seen pict of the entire thread just stripping out. lol

it's great they're thinking about light weight, but damn, use stronger materials.

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2564166)
yah, we've seen pict of the entire thread just stripping out. lol

Really? How did I miss that? :rofl2: I've got one with an inch of threads worn smooth. Kinda irritating considering that SPL endlinks only cost $30-40 more. Now I've got to buy a new set. :mad:

Rusty 11-11-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2564048)
i thought the rear whiteline endlinks break so people were now getting spl's rear links? :confused:

ask rusty.

I haven't broken any. Someone else broke one. My stock endlinks are sloppy, and I went to the SPL's.

kenchan 11-11-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2564171)
Really? How did I miss that? :rofl2: I've got one with an inch of threads worn smooth. Kinda irritating considering that SPL endlinks only cost $30-40 more. Now I've got to buy a new set. :mad:

:icon17: yah, might as well spend the extra if you plan on running the bar on a stiffer setting.

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2564195)
I haven't broken any. Someone else broke one. My stock endlinks are sloppy, and I went to the SPL's.

oop, sorry, someone else had that then. it was completely separated....

Rusty 11-11-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2564230)
:icon17: yah, might as well spend the extra if you plan on running the bar on a stiffer setting.



oop, sorry, someone else had that then. it was completely separated....

Yea, I seen the picture of it. Brain fart, I can't remember who it was.

1slow370 11-13-2013 03:34 AM

I'm starting to think a lot of the problem may come from having the car lowered more than the thicker bar. I have 30,000 hard miles on my stock links with hotchkiss's set full stiff at factory height and they are fine, i know the angles on the end links get hella jacked when you lower it and start going full compression. Also anybody spy the torsion style anti-sways on the voodoo13 setup?

Rusty 11-13-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2566735)
I'm starting to think a lot of the problem may come from having the car lowered more than the thicker bar. I have 30,000 hard miles on my stock links with hotchkiss's set full stiff at factory height and they are fine, i know the angles on the end links get hella jacked when you lower it and start going full compression. Also anybody spy the torsion style anti-sways on the voodoo13 setup?

I seen it with the alumunim end pieces.

PharmDZ 11-13-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2564048)
i thought the rear whiteline endlinks break so people were now getting spl's rear links? :confused:

ask rusty.

I had one of my whiteline rear end links break. They were nice enough to replace it with a supposedly newer design/model which honestly looks mostly the same, but they do have good customer service (despite me buying the end link months ago). I just went back to stock. We will see how it holds up next season when I go back to the track.

sparky 01-01-2014 05:32 PM

Just installed Eibach front and rear bars and SPL links, which definitely appear more robust than the stock links. Short initial test drive through some roundabouts feels great, more like a go-cart. :driving:
I think it's time for some new tires though, the VDC light was coming on more than it used to.
Gonna have to wait for better weather to put it through the paces.
On a side note I threw the Z speed shield on when I was done. Nice piece and obviously a huge improvement over the flimsy oem tupperware. :tup:

takimbe 01-06-2014 02:17 AM

Been reading over this thread. I have the Stillen sways, and the difference is definitely felt everytime I turn the wheel or change lanes. I saw all these reports about the endlinks breaking, and now I am worried my stock set will give eventually as well. I am lowered on coils, and have my fronts set to soft and rears set to full stiff. Should I just buy the rear endlinks for now, or do you guys recommend replacing both front and rears?

Seems like most people are only experiencing rear end link failures...

littlejuanito 03-15-2017 06:43 PM

I'm gonna be purchasing the SPL end links but was wondering if my suspension will be affected in any way by the change? I'm lowered on coilovers and cornered balanced already and would rather not have to align again.

Spooler 03-15-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3627790)
I'm gonna be purchasing the SPL end links but was wondering if my suspension will be affected in any way by the change? I'm lowered on coilovers and cornered balanced already and would rather not have to align again.

They won't change it. The endlinks will help to prevent any preload on the sway bar.

littlejuanito 03-15-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3627798)
They won't change it. The endlinks will help to prevent any preload on the sway bar.

Thanks Spooler. Should I installed them with weight or no weight on wheels?

Spooler 03-15-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3627842)
Thanks Spooler. Should I installed them with weight or no weight on wheels?

Good question. I have a brand new set for the front and rear I should be installing in the next couple of weeks. Guess I will have to figure that out.

Rusty 03-15-2017 09:47 PM

Best way is with the weight of the car on the ground. Install one side then install the other side. Install the bolt through the bar, it should go in without any trouble. If you have to force the bolt through. You will preload the bar.

littlejuanito 03-15-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3627887)
Best way is with the weight of the car on the ground. Install one side then install the other side. Install the bolt through the bar, it should go in without any trouble. If you have to force the bolt through. You will preload the bar.

Got it. I'm guessing it should be done with the wheels on a ramp right?

Rusty 03-15-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3627903)
Got it. I'm guessing it should be done with the wheels on a ramp right?

That will do it. ;)

littlejuanito 03-16-2017 04:32 PM

by the way, should I sit on driver's seat (or weight equivalent) to get the load on the sway bars taken out? I was cornered balanced with me inside the vehicle so I'm wondering if this will have any effect when I replace the end links?

kenchan 03-16-2017 06:05 PM

if u have to force anything to install da endlinks ure doing it wrong.

littlejuanito 03-16-2017 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3628311)
if u have to force anything to install da endlinks ure doing it wrong.

Thanks Kenchan. Yeah I will install the first link going off the measurements of the OEM then I will adjust the difference on the second link accordingly to avoid putting any load in them. I'm just not sure if this should be done with me sitting on passenger seat


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