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CarbonFZ 06-05-2014 03:55 PM

I painted mine Candy apple red
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3896/...d894a82e_b.jpgtank by Nemo210nem07, on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3874/...a7586c4f_b.jpgtankassembled by Nemo210nem07, on Flickr

Riptide67 06-05-2014 04:02 PM

Looks so bad ***! You just had a raw aluminum tank for the painting, right?

CarbonFZ 06-05-2014 04:05 PM

yes

KaienZ34 06-07-2014 02:29 PM

What size lines are you guys going with?

Riptide67 06-08-2014 12:46 PM

I am still debating between 3/8" and 1/4". The bags I have already have 3/8" fittings. But I may swap for 1/4". I like the slow drop but the fast rise has it's benefits as well.

CarbonFZ 06-09-2014 10:34 PM

I have 3/8 fittings and I air up fast and air down slow but not too slow. I'm using an accuair manifold so airing out is t too fast or too slow

KaienZ34 06-10-2014 12:31 PM

Is the manifold separate, or does it come with the kit from Accuair?

Riptide67 06-10-2014 01:25 PM

The manifold comes with the kit, KaienZ34.

http://accuair.com/airmanagementprod...e-w-touchpad-2

to make it stage 2, just add another compressor.

DOM_370z 06-10-2014 02:31 PM

Here is my UAS setup with Accuair eLevel

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/...e8015ece_b.jpg

Here is my trunk setup

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/...a5379325_o.jpg

Riptide67 06-10-2014 03:43 PM

Looks nice, Dom. I bet you spent a few shiny pennies to get the trunk setu up like that!

DOM_370z 06-10-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riptide67 (Post 2853726)
Looks nice, Dom. I bet you spent a few shiny pennies to get the trunk setu up like that!

thanks.. haha yea i have lol but it was all worth it! :)

Riptide67 06-10-2014 10:10 PM

Placing my order this week! Got my front brackets yesterday and the bags with rear brackets will be here on Monday :)

DOM_370z 06-13-2014 08:23 AM

Here's a better picture of my trunk setup.

http://www.pasmag.com/images/Event_C...oi_DSC0538.jpg

6MT-Z34 06-19-2014 06:23 PM

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Hey guys, i saw this on FB, not sure about the price though but its pretty neat...oem style from umbrella

Riptide67 06-23-2014 02:17 PM

Install was done over the course of 3 days. Roughly between 38-40 hours. It is not a bad install, just time consuming.

Unfortunately, I lost rear air pressure during my ride home last night. This caused the car to almost fully air out and i scraped something on the highway and showered a car behind me with some sparks. I caught it fast enough and was able to save any major damage. But, with that happening i think that cuased that bag 3 sensor to go out, making me lose the E level function. I was only able to manually adjust the bags.

The driver's rear sensor failed and I have a leak from the rear bag. The leak is either the fitting or the hose which is an easy fix. I hope the sensor isn't damaged, I have to test the volts to make sure it is operating properly and find a better mounting postion.

The only downfall of this kit (at least to me) are the sensors. They are difficult and a real pain the *** to mount. It is very frustrating and nerve wracking.

KaienZ34 06-23-2014 02:35 PM

That sucks, hope it's an easy fix brotha.

Riptide67 06-23-2014 03:31 PM

I hope so too. Worst case scenario is the sensor got destroyed, but it is still in one piece and attached to both mounting points on the rear fender liner and bracket coming off the control arm.

Riptide67 06-24-2014 01:16 PM

still scratching my head on this.

I went through all of the wiring and fuses last night. Replaced the three fuses, redid my grounds, and ran the 12v orange igntion wire straight to the positive battery terminal to insure I was getting the 12 volts. Sent pictures to AccuAir and the tech said that everything looks proper.

Controller still illuminates white and then flashes ten times rapidly, before shutting off. This normally means there is a problem with the 12v ignition wire or the USB wire/harness for the controller.

I have the USB and a new relay being overnighted to me. I will say that accuair has got the best customer service and tech support around. They always answer every time I call and always respond to emails fast. Hoping to get this resolved tomorrow night at the latest. I am in a big time crunch :/

Tonight, I am also going to try disconnecting one compressor at a time and trying one at a time to see if I can get a reaction out of it. I don't think this will solve anything though, but it is worth a shot.

KaienZ34 06-24-2014 01:54 PM

Hopefully one of the guys that have a similar setup might have some insight.

TheGreatOne 06-24-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riptide67 (Post 2870354)
Unfortunately, I lost rear air pressure during my ride home last night. This caused the car to almost fully air out and i scraped something on the highway and showered a car behind me with some sparks. I caught it fast enough and was able to save any major damage. But, with that happening i think that cuased that bag 3 sensor to go out, making me lose the E level function. I was only able to manually adjust the bags.

The driver's rear sensor failed and I have a leak from the rear bag. The leak is either the fitting or the hose which is an easy fix. I hope the sensor isn't damaged, I have to test the volts to make sure it is operating properly and find a better mounting postion.

The only downfall of this kit (at least to me) are the sensors. They are difficult and a real pain the *** to mount. It is very frustrating and nerve wracking.

Ouch sorry that happened to you man :(

That was one of my fears with bags, something goes wrong it becomes close to undrivable. Thats why I went with a cup suspension.

Hope it gets figured out, you could also maybe join AirSociety | The Air Suspension Meeting Grounds really quick. Local group here, mostly VW and Audi but they might be able to provide some insight, good luck!

Riptide67 06-24-2014 04:50 PM

yeah, tell me about it. I joined airsociety last week.

Accuair is kind of convinced it may be the grounds. I have my multimeter and am going to do some tinkering tonight with it all and possibly find an even better grounding location

Riptide67 06-24-2014 10:29 PM

Great news!!!!! Change my ground locations and got it running. I have some leaks though and lose air on all four corners in about 21 minutes. That issue will be addressed tomorrow!

Boom!

fuct 06-25-2014 09:24 AM

riptide im curious as to why you have the leaks... :/ im looking to go accuair on my next project so im doing all my research now.

GL man!

Riptide67 06-25-2014 09:37 AM

That I have to figure out tonight. I know for sure I have two of the following leaks.

Bag 2(passenger front) is leaking at the connection point on the VU4 manifold. Solution should be cutting a bit of the existing hose and making the end connection flatter.

Bag 3(driver rear) I can hear the leak by the wheel. This hose was mistakenly cut a bit short and may not be seated all the way. Just cut and replace with new length of hose.

Bag1(driver front) not a severe leak. Can't hear but it loses bag pressure. Probably just leaking slightly at the bag fitting and needs Teflon.

Bag4(pass rear) is unknown but probably the same as bag 1.

I just need to spray the fittings with soapy water and confirm the leaks. They are quite common with air.

fuct 06-25-2014 09:44 AM

hmmm, with todays technology on hose fittings and what not im really surprised by the amount of leaks.

Riptide67 06-25-2014 01:11 PM

Yeah, but there is always room for human error.


If you guys care to have a look, I documented the install pretty well with pictures and have uploaded an album. The album does run in reverse though.
Nissan 370Z Forum - Riptide67's Album: AccuAir Stage 2 E-level

Riptide67 06-26-2014 12:16 PM

A bit more of an update:

I went through the car last night to address some leaks that I had throughout the tank, bag fittings, and hoses. Make sure of the following things when installing your kit. THREAD TAPE IS YOUR BEST FAWKING FRIEND!!!!!! And for the love of all that is holy, make sure your air hose is long enough and the ends are cut completely flat and not angled. Otherwise, you will end up redoing most of it.

I fixed seven tank leaks, two hose leaks, and two rear bag fitting leaks. I timed the car from full to empty bags and it took only 11 minutes with the leaks. Checked on it this morning and the rear end has been fully inflated for over 8 hours.

I just have two very slow leaks to address on the front end today.

And on another note, mounting the sensors is a real nightmare. I unfortunately chose two shitty spots for the rear end and now have one broken swing arm on the sensor. You can still use the kit manually, but the e-level part is disabled. I have a replacement on the way from Accuair. I also got some very accurate pics from a friend that has the kit installed on his Nismo.

KaienZ34 06-26-2014 12:27 PM

Damn that sucks about the sensor, did you use teflon tape the first time and just needed more to fix the leaks? Please as many pics and tips/tricks as possible my good man. :tiphat:

KaienZ34 06-30-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 2872453)
Ouch sorry that happened to you man :(

That was one of my fears with bags, something goes wrong it becomes close to undrivable. Thats why I went with a cup suspension.

Hope it gets figured out, you could also maybe join AirSociety | The Air Suspension Meeting Grounds really quick. Local group here, mostly VW and Audi but they might be able to provide some insight, good luck!


Can you drive for long periods with the cup system aired up, about how much does the tank and compressor setup all weigh?

Riptide67 07-01-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2875412)
Damn that sucks about the sensor, did you use teflon tape the first time and just needed more to fix the leaks? Please as many pics and tips/tricks as possible my good man. :tiphat:

more teflon is all that was needed and another major thing, make sure you wrap the teflon so it does not twist off as you thread the fitting into the bag or tank.

Once I get these rear sensors mounted in their new location, I will post pics of the optimal point to mount them.

GaleForce 07-13-2014 08:44 PM

Does anyone have experience with this setup?

Infiniti G37 (2008-2014) Air Suspension Air Ride | Air Lift Performance - Air Ride and Air Management Systems

KaienZ34 07-13-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2894472)

I'm pretty sure that's the setup I just bought used here on the forum. He had it on his TT G37, he also had a straight air bag setup, some KW V3's before that. I know he drove it to Zdayz and ran the dragon, so he should have some helpful info.

http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...uair-more.html

GaleForce 07-14-2014 08:47 PM

Cool. Thanks. Enjoy the kit :tup:

TheGreatOne 07-15-2014 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2879912)
Can you drive for long periods with the cup system aired up, about how much does the tank and compressor setup all weigh?

sorry, totally was MIA for awhile lol.

Not suggested with the kit I have (Ait Motion) I think Phantom VIP says you can actually drive with it up.

I've done mine on the highway for a short period and down a really bad street but I usually keep it breif to just get up and over something

The compressor in the box I have weighed in about 23 lbs I think...and thats in a box with fancy plexiglass etc, so not that heavy...

stunner253 07-16-2014 03:25 PM

heres my new wheel set up.

http://www.the370z.com/members/stunn...ure80521-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/stunn...ure80520-a.jpg

KaienZ34 07-21-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riptide67 (Post 2880592)
more teflon is all that was needed and another major thing, make sure you wrap the teflon so it does not twist off as you thread the fitting into the bag or tank.

Once I get these rear sensors mounted in their new location, I will post pics of the optimal point to mount them.

Any pics/info/tips will be greatly appreciated, I picked up my air-strut setup yesterday and I'm ready to :driving:

Liquid_G 07-24-2014 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2894472)

I'm running Airlift's full Digital Combo kit and the ride is amazing.

Liquid_G 07-24-2014 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riptide67 (Post 2880592)
more teflon is all that was needed and another major thing, make sure you wrap the teflon so it does not twist off as you thread the fitting into the bag or tank.

Once I get these rear sensors mounted in their new location, I will post pics of the optimal point to mount them.

Regarding teflon tape.. its a pain in the ****.. I used pipe sealant paste instead and made my life much easier.

http://www.plumbersurplus.com/images...576-352448.jpg

KaienZ34 07-24-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 2906804)
I'm running Airlift's full Digital Combo kit and the ride is amazing.

Same here, mine should be on and rolling soon....I can't wait!!!


Any pics of your setup you wouldn't mine sharing?

Liquid_G 07-24-2014 01:12 PM

Not many but i'll tell you this. I hid my compressors and tank under a false floor. Added a second 380c compressor and also 2 water traps, hanging off the end of each tank fitting.

You can see the tank here, this was before the second compressor was added.

http://i.imgur.com/1QMp0pjl.jpg

And you can see the controller here:

http://i.imgur.com/CN3sDhwl.jpg

The Install manual tells you this but i'll re-interate here.. You need to bash in the area behind the front struts or you'll have clearance issues with the front bag rubbing.

http://i.imgur.com/0Xnuxiyl.jpg

Also you'll notice I have the SPL FUCA's to correct some camber.. I'm on 20's and like less than an inch from getting the front bumper on the ground because the control arms hit the inside on the fender when fully aired out. 19" or less wheels shouldn't be an issue.

http://i.imgur.com/JW9lRFkl.jpg


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