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Robispec 06-27-2013 03:51 AM

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bldg636 07-05-2013 08:11 AM

so all in all, what's the weight addition for this bar over stock? Was going to go with race seats and harnesses for weight savings, but if this weighs more, is it worth it?

Sh0velMan 07-05-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bldg636 (Post 2392435)
so all in all, what's the weight addition for this bar over stock? Was going to go with race seats and harnesses for weight savings, but if this weighs more, is it worth it?

Totally depends on what the seats and harnesses weigh and if you open up the interior paneling and remove the stock belts.

Weight reduction alone is a silly reason to do it though, IMO. A good harness weighs almost as much as the stock belt, for example. So you could get some light(er) "sport seats" that still allow you to use the stock belt, and like you said, use the lighter stock brace back there rather than a heavy duty steel harness bar.

djtodd 07-05-2013 08:32 AM

For what it's worth, the bar is VERY light.

That said, IMO, seats and harnesses should be viewed as safety items, not simply weight savings. The bar is in the same boat.

carlitos_370z 08-29-2013 12:30 PM

subscribed!!! i want this bar later!!!:tup:

synolimit 08-29-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by djtodd (Post 2392453)
For what it's worth, the bar is VERY light.

That said, IMO, seats and harnesses should be viewed as safety items, not simply weight savings. The bar is in the same boat.

Really? Looks like steel to me.

Rusty 08-29-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2466802)
Really? Looks like steel to me.

The factory bar is aluminum. The Robispec bar is steel. Think he was talking about the factory bar.;)

Sh0velMan 08-29-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2466843)
The factory bar is aluminum. The Robispec bar is steel. Think he was talking about the factory bar.;)

Yeah probably.

Stock bar is very light.

3" diameter steel is not.

I would like to know what thickness/alloy they're using.

synolimit 08-29-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2466846)
Yeah probably.

Stock bar is very light.

3" diameter steel is not.

I would like to know what thickness/alloy they're using.

Same here since I can knock it out easy.

Based on this I'd just get a mild steel in cold roll since its stronger but make sure its DOM or ERW since are cars are heavy and its 3", not 2" which cages are.

wstar 08-29-2013 04:23 PM

The location of that stock horizontal bar (that this one replaces?) is a very poor one for mounting harnesses anyways. It puts too much rearward length on the belts between the seat-back and the mounting point, which allows them to stretch more than they're designed to in a wreck. It *is* definitely a step up from putting harnesses on the stock bar itself though, because that thing isn't nearly strong enough.

Sh0velMan 08-30-2013 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2466875)
Same here since I can knock it out easy.

Based on this I'd just get a mild steel in cold roll since its stronger but make sure its DOM or ERW since are cars are heavy and its 3", not 2" which cages are.

yeah my cage is 1.75" .120 wall DOM.

3" .120 wall DOM would be what I'd make this bar of if I were going to do it. Gonna be heavy tho.

synolimit 08-30-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2467631)
yeah my cage is 1.75" .120 wall DOM.

3" .120 wall DOM would be what I'd make this bar of if I were going to do it. Gonna be heavy tho.

Well someone weighed theirs and it was 8lbs. So if 0.12 is heavier, than robispec uses thinner wall.

Sh0velMan 08-30-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2467680)
Well someone weighed theirs and it was 8lbs. So if 0.12 is heavier, than robispec uses thinner wall.

3" .120 DOM is around 3.7 pounds per foot.

I'd guess they're more in the .08 or even .06 range. :shakes head:

synolimit 08-30-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2467694)
3" .120 DOM is around 3.7 pounds per foot.

I'd guess they're more in the .08 or even .06 range. :shakes head:

Well it ant a roll bar, it's a chassis stiffener so even 0.6 should do its job.

So ill say it again, only do a seat belt off a roll cage only.

Sh0velMan 08-30-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2467780)
Well it ant a roll bar, it's a chassis stiffener so even 0.6 should do its job.

So ill say it again, only do a seat belt off a roll cage only.

For chassis stiffening, you don't need anything more than the stock bar.

This is for harness mounting, which I think .06 is woefully inadequate for.


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