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lazer_Z 03-10-2011 01:09 PM

Rear lower brace
 
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Seeing how many people would be interested in a lower rear brace for our cars. It would tie together the the rear lower subframe where the rear camber arms meet the subframe. Result is better traction for corner entry and exit.

Made from aluminum, and will have an option of powder coating.

Pricing is $85 shipped.

EDIT: Due to the interest, these I am going forward in production of these units.

Also I have decided to make a few other parts as well. Looking like some ladder brace will be next on the list as far as braces go. I am looking into some sort of brake cooling as I need this on my car as well. I am also open to suggestions, and needs of people in this community. I will be here for you guys and to make whatever is needed at a competitive price.


EDIT #2: Here is the "how-to". and added more pictures
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...tml#post989183
here is the CAD image for the rear lower brace:

6MT 03-10-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lazer_Z (Post 979660)
Seeing how many people would be interested in a lower rear brace for our cars. It would tie together the the rear lower subframe where the rear camber arms meet the subframe. Result is better traction for corner entry and exit.

Made from aluminum, and will have an option of powder coating.

Pricing would be somewhere around $75 shipped.

Do you have such a thing? :worthless:

lazer_Z 03-10-2011 01:48 PM

ive got the CAD model...mocking my carbon steel one up now. if there is intersest I will order the aluminum tomorrow and go from there.

Raven 03-10-2011 01:52 PM

lets see that CAD model

christian370z 03-10-2011 02:08 PM

For $75, I am down assuming it does not conflict with the exhaust or ground clearance.

lazer_Z 03-10-2011 02:25 PM

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Here you go. just a quick sketch up of it.

lazer_Z 03-10-2011 02:25 PM

nope. will not effect ground clearance or exhaust

chops 03-10-2011 03:00 PM

if better traction for corner entry/exit is for real id be down as well! powder coated red please!

cheshirecat 03-10-2011 03:22 PM

Machine it, powercoat it, make sure it doesn't interfere with the FI exhaust, and you'll have a winner on your hands.

lazer_Z 03-10-2011 06:54 PM

I don't have anyone around me that has an FI exhaust but it would be VERY hard for it to interfere with any exhaust due to it's location?

Jordo! 03-10-2011 07:25 PM

Hmm. Interested.

Stiffens the rear? So dials in a bit more oversteer?

Kastley85891 03-10-2011 11:18 PM

Id try it + for me

Trips 03-10-2011 11:43 PM

http://www.gtspec.com/sites/default/...s-1375-003.jpg
GTSPEC 2 Point Rear Lower Brace for 07+ Nissan 370Z | www.gtspec.com
Lou, At Amplified a Forum Vendor has these? as well as the Front brace
I would advise to check with our Vendors to see what deals they have for these before going somewhere else. Thank You

lazer_Z 03-11-2011 06:25 AM

Yes there are other products out there. I am starting to make my own products, as i have for other cars in the past. If you want to go with GT spec, then do. Others might not want to. I am not just posting some cheap-o ebay rear lower brace. This is something I have made, and am putting onto the market. I am talking to the appropriate people about vendor status, so that would solve that issue. Just about any part for our cars are made by atleast 2 or 3 people. If you want to go with GT Spec, then get GT Spec; others might want to try something new, and help out a fellow forum member and enthusiast start up a small project. If this goes well many more parts will be coming.


Jordo!: It stiffens the rear, but I wouldn't say it dials in more oversteer. Stiffens the chassis slightly so if you just dive into a corner hot and get on the throttle then yes I suppose more oversteer could be expected, but it just allows you to get into and out of the corner with less body flex and therefore allow you to rotate through the corner with a bit more speed.

StealthZ 03-11-2011 11:28 AM

Good for you man! It is always great to have a competition between models and stuff. First off, there is more out there then one maker/vendor etc. And I think a lot of people get cought in the mid set of a one maker/ that guy way of thinking and don't like to see other items.
You want to make your own and start a line, then hit it up and go for it. For that price I'd be interested to check one out, as suspension is on my to do list that I'm finally starting to put together.

stephen 03-11-2011 08:38 PM

keep us informed id be down for a red powder coated one!

SPOHN 03-11-2011 09:50 PM

You know what sucks about this mod. You have to have an alignment. You would never get the toe bolts aligned back perfect. But that wouldn't stop me.

lazer_Z 03-11-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stephen (Post 982402)
keep us informed id be down for a red powder coated one!

Will do, will have the aluminum "finished" product mounted up monday so I can get pics and a how-to done. Right now I have the steel one I made for prototype.
Red seems to be the color most want, so I will def get some made in red.

As far as alignment I will look into that. What you said may or may not be true. I just honestly dont know for sure. I will get an alignment before install, and then right after to see if there is any change.

SPOHN 03-11-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lazer_Z (Post 982565)
Will do, will have the aluminum "finished" product mounted up monday so I can get pics and a how-to done. Right now I have the steel one I made for prototype.
Red seems to be the color most want, so I will def get some made in red.

As far as alignment I will look into that. What you said may or may not be true. I just honestly dont know for sure. I will get an alignment before install, and then right after to see if there is any change.

The lower brace attaches to the two toe bolts. Those are the same bolts holding/ connecting to the spring perch. You could mark the toe bolts before removing them. But toe is so delicate it wouldn't be spot on.

lazer_Z 03-11-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 982576)
The lower brace attaches to the two toe bolts. Those are the same bolts holding/ connecting to the spring perch. You could mark the toe bolts before removing them. But toe is so delicate it wouldn't be spot on.

yeah i agree which is why i said i wasnt sure, but havnt really looked to see if there was a secondary adjustment or something else holding it in. They didnt move much when i put the prototype on, but like you said. the toe adjustment is so delicate you cant tell by just looking at it.

I need to do an alignment anyway for some other reasons so i will be able to report some actual numbers on how bad it effects it.

lazer_Z 03-12-2011 10:08 AM

more information in first post. feel free to voice your concerns and what you guys want made. once I get everything set up with AK I will be able to start the sales. Hope to grow with you guys!

Fire 03-12-2011 10:41 PM

Kewl looking part. I of course have a couple questions. I own a vert so stiffer is better. I have the Eibach lowering springs and pro alignment kit being installed. My car is at the shop now having the pro kit installed so I don't have the car here to look and see exactly where you are talking about it being installed.Does anybody have a link that shows our rear end setup so I can see where everything is? You said it bolts where the toe bolts bolt on. Will this work with my setup? Reading the directions on the camber bolts it says that an area is die grinded out for fitment. If I do get one I would be intersed in red powder coated as my sways are red.:ugh2:

SPOHN 03-12-2011 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 983829)
Kewl looking part. I of course have a couple questions. I own a vert so stiffer is better. I have the Eibach lowering springs and pro alignment kit being installed. My car is at the shop now having the pro kit installed so I don't have the car here to look and see exactly where you are talking about it being installed.Does anybody have a link that shows our rear end setup so I can see where everything is? You said it bolts where the toe bolts bolt on. Will this work with my setup? Reading the directions on the camber bolts it says that an area is die grinded out for fitment. If I do get one I would be intersed in red powder coated as my sways are red.:ugh2:

Here you go. The toe bolts are in red.
http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...-question.html

Red__Zed 03-12-2011 11:25 PM

hm. interesting.

lazer_Z 03-13-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire (Post 983829)
Kewl looking part. I of course have a couple questions. I own a vert so stiffer is better. I have the Eibach lowering springs and pro alignment kit being installed. My car is at the shop now having the pro kit installed so I don't have the car here to look and see exactly where you are talking about it being installed.Does anybody have a link that shows our rear end setup so I can see where everything is? You said it bolts where the toe bolts bolt on. Will this work with my setup? Reading the directions on the camber bolts it says that an area is die grinded out for fitment. If I do get one I would be intersed in red powder coated as my sways are red.:ugh2:

Yes it will still fit. I will snap some pics on monday/tuesday when doing the "how to" and everyone can see where it goes and such.

SPOHN 03-13-2011 10:17 AM

Here's a link for where it goes. Just click on the three pics there.

GTSPEC 2 Point Rear Lower Brace 370Z

Fire 03-13-2011 10:46 AM

:tiphat:Thanks Spohn and Lazer I feel much more educated now. Still waitng for the call that my car is done to pick it up today. I'll ask them when I pick the car up what just a rear alignment would cost after installing the brace. Thanks again guys.

SPOHN 03-13-2011 11:45 AM

I'll probably pick one up anyways. I usually check my alignment every six months.

Fire 03-13-2011 04:42 PM

Just got my car home. All set and within factory specs. Thanks for the link Spohn I had to go to the shop to show them which link got replaced. There are two, one steel that is replaced and one aluminum that stays. They said that a complete alignment has to be done even if just the toe bolts are touched. I'm still liking this mod. Keep us posted lazer and look forward to pics in a couple days. I'm planning on tackling the canards,chin spoiler, side skirts and rear diffuser this week. Still think I need a shop to paint and install the SS rear wing.

lazer_Z 03-14-2011 06:19 PM

just an update everybody...rain and my real job owned me today. tomorrow will be the day of alignment news and how to though! stay tuned!

SPOHN 03-14-2011 06:27 PM

I know how that is.

lazer_Z 03-15-2011 06:12 PM

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Ok, so since firestone took 2 1/2 hrs to do the first alignment today I wont be able to post up results of toe movement.

Anyway here is the test part (first one I made from aluminum) and want to note it is just spray painted because i didnt feel like waiting for one to be powder coated. Wanted to post up pictures before it went on the car. Will be writing the "how to" tonight/tomorrow and posting up as soon as its done.

STILL waiting on vendor status before I can accept money from anybody. but lets get a list going so i can know who to contact first.

Oh and btw....THIS THINGS ARE STUPID LIGHTWEIGHT!

lazer_Z 03-15-2011 07:31 PM

Link to "how-to"
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...tml#post989183

lazer_Z 03-16-2011 10:04 PM

I can now sell on the forums!!! Woot!

Fire 03-17-2011 05:55 AM

Price, shipping? When will powder coated parts be available for shipping? Are you going to use pay pal? Look forward to doing buisness with ya.:tiphat:

lazer_Z 03-17-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 992283)
Price, shipping? When will powder coated parts be available for shipping? Are you going to use pay pal? Look forward to doing buisness with ya.:tiphat:

Price will be $85 shipped. Powder coated red, as that is what everyone has asked for. Right now they are being made in batches of 3. The first three will be shipped to powder coater this weekend and then shipped to my customers. First come first serve as of now. I will only be making 10 of these and 2 are already paid for so don't wait and miss out!

Thanks for all of the support guys, I really do appreciate it!

and yes I will be using paypal. PM me for that info.

onzedge 03-17-2011 11:25 AM

PM sent.

lazer_Z 03-17-2011 11:28 AM

all PM's replied

TypeOne 03-17-2011 03:03 PM

Bump for my local buddy!

Will be getting one of these next week!

:-P

KaienZ34 03-17-2011 11:14 PM

Bump for local boy....i'd be interested as well...maybe local prices ;)


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