springs or coilovers?

brado · 02-13-2011, 10:39 AM

I have an 09 touring with sport package. i never race my car or put it on the track or anything like that. it is my daily driver. what is the difference between coilovers and springs? ive heard that if u get springs it rides better than coilovers. i think im leaning towards springs since i dont track my car...maybe eibach or tein? whats your opinions? also do i need a camber kit or anything like that? ive never done this before.

kielbasa16 · 02-24-2011, 04:14 PM

I see this thread hasnt gotten any responses, probably because most of those answers can be found by searching.

Yes, springs can provide a nice drop for your ride, but are not adjustable. They are also significantly cheaper which appeals to most people whose cars only see the street.
Coilovers give the owner more flexibility, generally are considered of better quality, and are better for track applications. For these reasons they are also more expensive.

What I have heard outside the forum is that after a few years, springs alone can crap out on you. That is what I am wondering about - longevity. If I can purchase some Swift springs, get the desired drop, and not have to replace or fix anything for years, then I'm sold (as my car doesnt see the track). But if they will crap out on me in a year or two, then I'd prefer to make the investment in some quality coilovers.

Please fill me and others in.

wishihadnav · 02-24-2011, 04:27 PM

^^coilovers need to be rebuilt every 15/20k or so for max performance or wait till they blow haha...also corner balancing..it all adds up.

brado · 02-24-2011, 04:39 PM

i searched around the forum after i posted that and decided that im going to go with swift springs. they seem to be the best. and i think im going to only get the rear camber kit because most people said they didnt need the front with the swift springs.

Osiris · 02-24-2011, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kielbasa16

What I have heard outside the forum is that after a few years, springs alone can crap out on you.

heya kielbasa,

I have the Swift springs, and when you put the stock and swift spring next to each other...the swift visibly is a much beefier spring. So, using your logic, than i would suspect the stock spring would "crap out" much sooner.

But seriously, i think it's phsyically impossible for there to be any type of malfunction...it's a spring made of strong metal after all! It's not going to melt.

Viera · 02-24-2011, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris

heya kielbasa,

I have the Swift springs, and when you put the stock and swift spring next to each other...the swift visibly is a much beefier spring. So, using your logic, than i would suspect the stock spring would "crap out" much sooner.

But seriously, i think it's phsyically impossible for there to be any type of malfunction...it's a spring made of strong metal after all! It's not going to melt.

Plus, I think by the time they do start to "crap out", we'll be in another car...

SPOHN · 02-24-2011, 07:23 PM

What would probably crap out prematurely is the OEM shocks due to after market springs. But even then they would last a good while.

brado · 02-24-2011, 07:52 PM

so clarify this for me guys...do i need a front camber kit with the swift springs or what? everyone seems to have dif opinions

SPOHN · 02-24-2011, 08:07 PM

I've seen several threads where guys didn't need a front kit with Swift and others. Good chance you might not. You'll need an aligment anyways. Then that will tell.

kielbasa16 · 02-24-2011, 08:18 PM

Thanks all. For the record I got the "crap out" theory outside of this forum and since Ive never been lead astray here I wanted to confirm/combat the idea. I think Im gonna go with Swifts myself, let them settle for a week or two then get the alignment. If needed Ill add the rear camber kit. I think this sounds like the best course of action for me.

SPOHN · 02-24-2011, 08:38 PM

If you want to settle the the springs in a little faster, just go do some brisk driving side to side. At lower speeds though. A parking lot would be best.

wh1te370z · 02-24-2011, 08:59 PM

I've never really heard of springs craping out. My dad had a 1.5 drop on his Audi for 5 years on stock shocks and never had a problem. If you buy springs id would suggest shocks if it is more of a long term thing. The shock will more likely blow bc it is compressed more due to the drop. therefor having a higher pressure built up inside and eventually "blow"

Viera · 02-24-2011, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kielbasa16

Thanks all. For the record I got the "crap out" theory outside of this forum and since Ive never been lead astray here I wanted to confirm/combat the idea. I think Im gonna go with Swifts myself, let them settle for a week or two then get the alignment. If needed Ill add the rear camber kit. I think this sounds like the best course of action for me.

Good plan! That is exactly what I plan to do when my Swift springs arrive.

Osiris · 02-24-2011, 09:49 PM

After my Swift install and about a week after i got an alignment. The rear was a little more out of spec than the front. But, neither front or rear was much...i don't have the exact numbers. However, if anything, rear camber kit would be recommended if it will be your daily driver. I will probably end up getting that as soon as i can afford to.

02-13-2011, 10:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
brado Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 217 Drives: 09 touring w/ sport Rep Power: 3	springs or coilovers? I have an 09 touring with sport package. i never race my car or put it on the track or anything like that. it is my daily driver. what is the difference between coilovers and springs? ive heard that if u get springs it rides better than coilovers. i think im leaning towards springs since i dont track my car...maybe eibach or tein? whats your opinions? also do i need a camber kit or anything like that? ive never done this before. Last edited by brado; 02-13-2011 at 11:05 AM.

02-24-2011, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
kielbasa16 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NY Posts: 798 Drives: 09 Blk Z Spt Rep Power: 5	I see this thread hasnt gotten any responses, probably because most of those answers can be found by searching. Yes, springs can provide a nice drop for your ride, but are not adjustable. They are also significantly cheaper which appeals to most people whose cars only see the street. Coilovers give the owner more flexibility, generally are considered of better quality, and are better for track applications. For these reasons they are also more expensive. What I have heard outside the forum is that after a few years, springs alone can crap out on you. That is what I am wondering about - longevity. If I can purchase some Swift springs, get the desired drop, and not have to replace or fix anything for years, then I'm sold (as my car doesnt see the track). But if they will crap out on me in a year or two, then I'd prefer to make the investment in some quality coilovers. Please fill me and others in. __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...-kielbasa.html

02-24-2011, 04:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,868 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 7	^^coilovers need to be rebuilt every 15/20k or so for max performance or wait till they blow haha...also corner balancing..it all adds up. Last edited by wishihadnav; 02-24-2011 at 04:35 PM.

02-24-2011, 07:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
SPOHN Let Me See Your TT's Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Jackson, GA Age: 34 Posts: 12,648 Drives: Power In The Details Rep Power: 89	What would probably crap out prematurely is the OEM shocks due to after market springs. But even then they would last a good while. __________________ GTM MHI TT EW Coming Uprev\|MHI 18G\|Turbosmart EWG OD\|Turbosmart BOV\|CJM Fuel Fix\|Bosch EV14\|HKS EVC 5\|Innovative WB\|Greddy TI-C\|CSF\|34R OC\|PS C\|OSG LSD\|\|Southbend SS\|AME TM 02\|StanceGR+\|SPL\|SPC\|Hotchkis\|AP BBK\|APR GTC 200\|Recaro\|Roll Cage\|Stillen Fascia \| Shine\|Amuse\|Stillen BCK\|My Journal

02-24-2011, 08:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
SPOHN Let Me See Your TT's Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Jackson, GA Age: 34 Posts: 12,648 Drives: Power In The Details Rep Power: 89	I've seen several threads where guys didn't need a front kit with Swift and others. Good chance you might not. You'll need an aligment anyways. Then that will tell. __________________ GTM MHI TT EW Coming Uprev\|MHI 18G\|Turbosmart EWG OD\|Turbosmart BOV\|CJM Fuel Fix\|Bosch EV14\|HKS EVC 5\|Innovative WB\|Greddy TI-C\|CSF\|34R OC\|PS C\|OSG LSD\|\|Southbend SS\|AME TM 02\|StanceGR+\|SPL\|SPC\|Hotchkis\|AP BBK\|APR GTC 200\|Recaro\|Roll Cage\|Stillen Fascia \| Shine\|Amuse\|Stillen BCK\|My Journal

02-24-2011, 04:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
brado Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 217 Drives: 09 touring w/ sport Rep Power: 3	i searched around the forum after i posted that and decided that im going to go with swift springs. they seem to be the best. and i think im going to only get the rear camber kit because most people said they didnt need the front with the swift springs.

02-24-2011, 07:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
brado Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 217 Drives: 09 touring w/ sport Rep Power: 3	so clarify this for me guys...do i need a front camber kit with the swift springs or what? everyone seems to have dif opinions

02-24-2011, 08:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
kielbasa16 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NY Posts: 798 Drives: 09 Blk Z Spt Rep Power: 5	Thanks all. For the record I got the "crap out" theory outside of this forum and since Ive never been lead astray here I wanted to confirm/combat the idea. I think Im gonna go with Swifts myself, let them settle for a week or two then get the alignment. If needed Ill add the rear camber kit. I think this sounds like the best course of action for me. __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...-kielbasa.html

02-24-2011, 08:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
SPOHN Let Me See Your TT's Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Jackson, GA Age: 34 Posts: 12,648 Drives: Power In The Details Rep Power: 89	If you want to settle the the springs in a little faster, just go do some brisk driving side to side. At lower speeds though. A parking lot would be best. __________________ GTM MHI TT EW Coming Uprev\|MHI 18G\|Turbosmart EWG OD\|Turbosmart BOV\|CJM Fuel Fix\|Bosch EV14\|HKS EVC 5\|Innovative WB\|Greddy TI-C\|CSF\|34R OC\|PS C\|OSG LSD\|\|Southbend SS\|AME TM 02\|StanceGR+\|SPL\|SPC\|Hotchkis\|AP BBK\|APR GTC 200\|Recaro\|Roll Cage\|Stillen Fascia \| Shine\|Amuse\|Stillen BCK\|My Journal

02-24-2011, 08:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 558 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 4	I've never really heard of springs craping out. My dad had a 1.5 drop on his Audi for 5 years on stock shocks and never had a problem. If you buy springs id would suggest shocks if it is more of a long term thing. The shock will more likely blow bc it is compressed more due to the drop. therefor having a higher pressure built up inside and eventually "blow" __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

02-24-2011, 09:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Osiris A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,160 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 7	After my Swift install and about a week after i got an alignment. The rear was a little more out of spec than the front. But, neither front or rear was much...i don't have the exact numbers. However, if anything, rear camber kit would be recommended if it will be your daily driver. I will probably end up getting that as soon as i can afford to. __________________ 2010 Z Sport/Touring, Magnetic Black, Persimmon, 6MT, NAV, Stillen Super Charger, Oil Cooler, Motordyne ART Pipes, FI CBE 12", TE37, Swift SpecR, RE11's, Seibon TS hood XECOFL.com - http://xecofl.com/forum/index.php?ac...referredby=263

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