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ZForce 04-19-2011 02:00 AM

Those wheels really compliment the MB color and lines. Very nice stance!! :tup:

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Originally Posted by tsolin01 (Post 1061158)


ZForce 04-19-2011 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1061251)
So.... much.... Swift. It's Swift overload today!

Yeh everyone received their shipment last Tues,Weds and installed over the great weather we had on the West Coast this last weekend. Saddens me though because I have to wait until this Sat for install. :(

Red__Zed 04-19-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 1061082)

Amazing stance.

Tauruszguy 04-19-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1061238)
Came out looking good! Do you think 20mm & 25mm would fit? Are you rolling on stock tires?

Hopefully I will have some photos up after this weekend of 20mm & 25mm on stock tires.

Thanks! On stock tires here and I think 20/25 would be perfect. Might change it up to that soon.

KamiSpeed 04-19-2011 01:36 PM

great pictures everyone :tup:

CFZ 04-19-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1061251)
So.... much.... Swift. It's Swift overload today!

HAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Seriously....

Au10tc 04-19-2011 02:27 PM

You guys in the states are lucky! I put the swift springs on 2 weeks ago and have been trying to find a alignment shop in Hilo Hawaii. Everyone said they don't do lowered cars. The one person i found wants $200 to try and do it wtf!!! Anyone know how to do it yourself maybe i can attempt it.

AlphaSnacks 04-19-2011 02:28 PM

Ordered my set today. =)

christian370z 04-19-2011 02:37 PM

I guess I will throw a couple in as well: Swift springs, SP Rays, and 20mm spacers.


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bigdog1250 04-19-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1061537)
Amazing stance.

Thanks!!!

Christian your car looks great!

I think after my alignment the car will look even better. Took a nice cruise today with the springs and couldn't be happier.

bigdog1250 04-19-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Au10tc (Post 1062226)
You guys in the states are lucky! I put the swift springs on 2 weeks ago and have been trying to find a alignment shop in Hilo Hawaii. Everyone said they don't do lowered cars. The one person i found wants $200 to try and do it wtf!!! Anyone know how to do it yourself maybe i can attempt it.

You'll definitely need a shop to do the alignment. Should cost more in the $100-120 range. Make sure the shop has an actual alignment machine also.

Red__Zed 04-19-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Au10tc (Post 1062226)
You guys in the states are lucky! I put the swift springs on 2 weeks ago and have been trying to find a alignment shop in Hilo Hawaii. Everyone said they don't do lowered cars. The one person i found wants $200 to try and do it wtf!!! Anyone know how to do it yourself maybe i can attempt it.

It's not terribly difficult to do some of it yourself. You can use google to get started finding some resources.

It's also worth making friends with someone who works at a shop. I don't pay for alignments, or basic stuff done to the car, and I just tip the guy who does the work.

Red__Zed 04-19-2011 06:48 PM

Do It Yourself Alignment Tips

Here's a link to check out. I still recommend finding a shop to help you out though.

ZForce 04-19-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tauruszguy (Post 1061867)
Thanks! On stock tires here and I think 20/25 would be perfect. Might change it up to that soon.

Thanks, your stance and drop with spacers reassure me that I am going down the correct path. Car looks great!

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Originally Posted by Au10tc (Post 1062226)
You guys in the states are lucky! I put the swift springs on 2 weeks ago and have been trying to find a alignment shop in Hilo Hawaii. Everyone said they don't do lowered cars. The one person i found wants $200 to try and do it wtf!!! Anyone know how to do it yourself maybe i can attempt it.

As others have chimed in on I second it have it done at a shop. I have never paid over $75 for an alignment on a quality Hunter rack.

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1062232)
Ordered my set today. =)

You will not be sorry, hopefully they get here soon from across the pond.

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1062258)
I guess I will throw a couple in as well: Swift springs, SP Rays, and 20mm spacers.

Stance is looking aggressive. What size tire are you running up front?

ZForce 04-19-2011 11:18 PM

Hey bigdog1250, what size spacers are you running up front? They look like 15mm.

christian370z 04-20-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1063101)
Stance is looking aggressive. What size tire are you running up front?

Thanks! Just the stock 245 width RE050 tires up front and stock 275s in the rear although I will eventually go 255 front 285 rear with some RE11s.

bigdog1250 04-20-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1063102)
Hey bigdog1250, what size spacers are you running up front? They look like 15mm.

Yep, they are your old 15s! They should look more flush once I get the car aligned and the top of the wheel get pushed out a bit more (reducing the negative camber). I plan on going 255s in the front and 295 in the rear once my tires go, so I wanted room to slap on bigger meat. Otherwise I'd have gone with 20/25 like you.

Footloose301 04-20-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 1061082)

Looks like an awesome drop. I think I'll go a bit wider on my spacers though when I order mine.

bigdog1250 04-20-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1065273)
Looks like an awesome drop. I think I'll go a bit wider on my spacers though when I order mine.

*Note my camber is pretty negative right now, so the tops of the wheels will be pushed out more after the alignment (should look more flush). Also if you plan on going with bigger rubber down the line, 15x20 spacers are the better choice.

If you're staying with the stocks tire sizes, 20x25 might be the wiser choice. Either way I'll have better pics up on Saturday showing the car Post-alignment. And i'll use a better camera so the lighting will be better.

ZForce 04-21-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1063214)
Thanks! Just the stock 245 width RE050 tires up front and stock 275s in the rear although I will eventually go 255 front 285 rear with some RE11s.

That combo should look great. I am pulling the trigger next week on RE-11's 265/35/19 & 285/35/19 mounted on 20mm & 25mm spacers.

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 1063994)
Yep, they are your old 15s! They should look more flush once I get the car aligned and the top of the wheel get pushed out a bit more (reducing the negative camber). I plan on going 255s in the front and 295 in the rear once my tires go, so I wanted room to slap on bigger meat. Otherwise I'd have gone with 20/25 like you.

I could not remember what combo you got from me. Looks good, I agree, more flush with less negative camber in the rear. I am taking a chance on my tire combo (mentioned above) but I thinik I have done enough research and seen enough pics to just go for it. I have not seen anyone with this combo setup, so a first. Check the tire ratios on whatever you go with. I could not get you the alignment specs, no scanner, but posted the formula on alignment specs a few posts back, if interested.

Post up some after alignment pics, please.

Save the date: 5/21/11 for my run. Check out the zonc website.

Au10tc 04-21-2011 04:39 AM

Well i took the advice that you guys gave. I am going to a shop for the alignment. I convinced them but i have to take off my front bumper to do so. Thanks for all the imput though, greatly appreciated.

AlphaSnacks 04-21-2011 02:59 PM

What is the difference between Sport Springs and Spec-R? A vendor had to refund my purchase because they had the Sport Springs, as opposed to Spec-R. I wasn't aware there are two Swifts available for the 370Z.

bigdog1250 04-21-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1066555)
What is the difference between Sport Springs and Spec-R? A vendor had to refund my purchase because they had the Sport Springs, as opposed to Spec-R. I wasn't aware there are two Swifts available for the 370Z.

They are the same thing. The box just says sport springs. Look on their website. They are called sport springs spec r.

AlphaSnacks 04-21-2011 03:37 PM

Thanks! Just found the Swift PDF, they only make one spring for the 370Z. Looks like the vendor was a little confused.

Edit: Turns out it was a packaging error on Swifts part. Ah, well. Ordered a new set from Corner3 for super cheap.

bigdog1250 04-21-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1066613)
Thanks! Just found the Swift PDF, they only make one spring for the 370Z. Looks like the vendor was a little confused.

Edit: Turns out it was a packaging error on Swifts part. Ah, well. Ordered a new set from Corner3 for super cheap.

How cheap? Kamispeed on here has them at a great price shipped!

ZForce 04-21-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1066613)
Thanks! Just found the Swift PDF, they only make one spring for the 370Z. Looks like the vendor was a little confused.

Edit: Turns out it was a packaging error on Swifts part. Ah, well. Ordered a new set from Corner3 for super cheap.

There are two different part #'s. The spec-R are the only ones for the 370Z. The others are not for the 370Z.

Spec-R part # 4N905R off my two sets still sitting in the box in the garage.

waynerzz 04-22-2011 02:47 AM

So I just installed the Swifts a couple of days ago. I'm using a 20mm spacer setup in the front and 25mm on the rears with the OEM 19's. I'm going to get an alignment soon but not sure if I should just get some camber arms and get it over with before I do the alignment. I'd like to try to avoid camber arms if it's really not necessary. What's acceptable as far as camber goes for the fronts and the rears? And if anyone knows, how do spacers affect the camber specs as well? Thanks for the help in advance! :D

DIGItonium 04-22-2011 08:25 AM

The best my dealer could do was take it close to -2.5 camber on both sides. Before it was -3.0. This morning (roughly 1.5 weeks of the springs settling), I wedged a credit card underneath the rear tire and was able to push the whole thing in. :eek:

I did the same test for the front wheels (-1.5 and -1.6), and it barely made it past the roll.

I think I will probably shoot for something close to -1.2 for the rears with the camber kit (not sure about toe bolts) and leave the front wheels alone.

Red__Zed 04-22-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1067636)
The best my dealer could do was take it close to -2.5 camber on both sides. Before it was -3.0. This morning (roughly 1.5 weeks of the springs settling), I wedged a credit card underneath the rear tire and was able to push the whole thing in. :eek:

I did the same test for the front wheels (-1.5 and -1.6), and it barely made it past the roll.

I think I will probably shoot for something close to -1.2 for the rears with the camber kit (not sure about toe bolts) and leave the front wheels alone.

Wow thats a lot of camber.

tjlazer 04-22-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1067636)
The best my dealer could do was take it close to -2.5 camber on both sides. Before it was -3.0. This morning (roughly 1.5 weeks of the springs settling), I wedged a credit card underneath the rear tire and was able to push the whole thing in. :eek:

I did the same test for the front wheels (-1.5 and -1.6), and it barely made it past the roll.

I think I will probably shoot for something close to -1.2 for the rears with the camber kit (not sure about toe bolts) and leave the front wheels alone.

Yeah you were one of the unlocky ones, you def need a camber kit!

tjlazer 04-22-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by waynerzz (Post 1067528)
So I just installed the Swifts a couple of days ago. I'm using a 20mm spacer setup in the front and 25mm on the rears with the OEM 19's. I'm going to get an alignment soon but not sure if I should just get some camber arms and get it over with before I do the alignment. I'd like to try to avoid camber arms if it's really not necessary. What's acceptable as far as camber goes for the fronts and the rears? And if anyone knows, how do spacers affect the camber specs as well? Thanks for the help in advance! :D

What you are asking has already been discussed in this and othe Swift threads. Most of us do NOT need a camber correction kit. So just do it and get an alignment to see if you need one...

370zFORme!! 04-22-2011 12:21 PM

Hey just wanted to let anyone in Socal know that if you're looking for a good alignment shop, West End Alignment in Gardena Ca did my alignment and these guys are seriously top notch. They actually have you sit in the car the entire time while they do the alignment to account for your weight. I have a rear camber kit on my car but no front. Im actually curious to know how they adjusted my front camber. My car drives like an absolute dream now. I thought it drove good with the swifts and whiteline sways before. I was blown away after the alignment. Absolutely no bump steer and it does not pull one way or the other.
Here are my before and after specs:
Before:
Camber
Front Left: -1.9 Front Right: -1.5

Rear:
Rear Left: -2.2 Rear Right: -1.9

After:
Front Left: -1.75 Front Right: -1.75
Toe: 3/16th
Rear Left: -1.75 Rear Right: -1.75
Toe: 1/16th

tsolin01 04-22-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1067636)
The best my dealer could do was take it close to -2.5 camber on both sides. Before it was -3.0. This morning (roughly 1.5 weeks of the springs settling), I wedged a credit card underneath the rear tire and was able to push the whole thing in. :eek:

I did the same test for the front wheels (-1.5 and -1.6), and it barely made it past the roll.

I think I will probably shoot for something close to -1.2 for the rears with the camber kit (not sure about toe bolts) and leave the front wheels alone.

My alignment specs were pretty much on par with yours, -1.5, -1.6 in front and -3.1 in the rears. Stock specs have a -1 degree difference between front and rear so the guy at my shop recommended I follow that to keep the handling similar to stock. Toe he was able to get in spec.

So right now i'm at -1.5, -1.6 front and -2.6 on the rears. I don't think I'm going to get a camber kit as I don't mind the current alignment and the car handles fine for me. It might be a little on the high side but it's fine for me.

370zFORme!! 04-22-2011 02:24 PM

Heres a question.. Is anyone running 40 series tires in the front and back? I love the swifts but I just want to reduce a bit of the wheel gap all around. I fell like 40 series tires would have no wheel gap front and back, but I don't want to mess with the dimensions too bad.

DIGItonium 04-22-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tsolin01 (Post 1068191)
My alignment specs were pretty much on par with yours, -1.5, -1.6 in front and -3.1 in the rears.

Ditto on the toe spec. It makes a lot of sense since we have the same spec for the rear wheels. Our front wheels are technically the same (10mm spacer gives it an equivalent offset). The 305s are begging for more contact patch since it is literally riding on half of the tire width.

SPCs ordered a couple hours ago... hopefully there's room to make it close to flush with the fender while keeping camber slightly on the negative. :tup:

ZForce 04-22-2011 11:17 PM

One down and one to go in the morning. First impression ....like a freakin go kart.

Dasnow 04-23-2011 10:24 AM

Does anyone know who has the swift springs in stock? I don't like to pay of parts and wait for them to "arrive". Some many vendors too little time to call em all. Just asking.

cheshirecat 04-23-2011 10:51 AM

Kami Speed had them... not sure if they're sold out.

ZForce 04-23-2011 11:04 AM

KamiSpeed is sold out and taking orders for the next container from across the pond.

christian370z 04-23-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zFORme!! (Post 1068312)
Heres a question.. Is anyone running 40 series tires in the front and back? I love the swifts but I just want to reduce a bit of the wheel gap all around. I fell like 40 series tires would have no wheel gap front and back, but I don't want to mess with the dimensions too bad.

Hey PJ, it would make your speedometer less accurate as you are increasing the total diameter of the wheel but as far as performance is concerned, I doubt it would make a difference.


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